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First, we must keep in mind that the truest justice comes not when the Law is enforced by those who are themselves transgressors of it (as all mankind are), but when it is enforced by He who is sinless, who is in no way a transgressor of the Law of God (cf. Heb 4:15; 1 Pet 2:22; 1 Jn 3:5). When Jesus said to the Pharisees, “Let him who is without sin cast the first stone,” He basically revealed to the crowd that He is the ultimate Judge, not the Pharisees (or anyone else, for that matter).
Once He established that, He went on to enforce the Law when He said to the woman, “Go and sin no more.” After all, the purpose or spirit of this particular law (which the Pharisees so often neglected) was to impress upon Israel the gravity of the sin of adultery. Jesus acknowledged this when He told the woman to never do it again.
Finally, note that stoning the woman would have meant the condemnation of both the sin and the woman. She would have died in sin and suffered total separation from God. But, Jesus came to condemn sin, not sinners. He came to save what was lost, not to lose it (cf. Lk 19:10; Jn 12:47; 18:9). So, by preventing the stoning while at the same time commanding the woman to “Go and sin no more,” Jesus condemns the sin but saves the sinner. In this way, He is both Just and Merciful, and He brings about the fulfillment of the law in question.
Article 102 – An adulterous man shall be buried in a ditch up to near his waist and an adulterous woman up to near her chest and then stoned to death.
Article 103 – In case the person sentenced to stoning escapes the ditch in which they are buried, then if the adultery is proven by testimony then they will be returned for the punishment but if it is proven by their own confession then they will not be returned.
Article 104 – The size of the stone used in stoning shall not be too large to kill the convict by one or two throws and at the same time shall not be too small to be called a stone.
But Christianity calls for forgiveness and for people not to be judgmental of others.
Shiloh7
Also adultery is a very hard temptation and being human, it happens, but should a life be taken for such an action, do we really put it on the level of serial killing and raping, murder etc I don't think so.
and he already took care of the Pharisees.
sk0rpi0n
reply to post by FlyersFan
But Christianity calls for forgiveness and for people not to be judgmental of others.
Christianity has Jesus telling people to do and observe what the Pharisees tell you. His reason was that they sat in Moses seat. i.e Authorities on the law.
"The scribes and the Pharisees have seated themselves in the chair of Moses; therefore all that they tell you, do and observe, but do not do according to their deeds; for they say things and do not do them. - Matthew 23:2-3
So if Jesus and the Pharisees were alive today, and you would have to "do and observe" as the Pharisees tell you, according to what Jesus said. That would also include stoning, as practised by the Pharisees.edit on 4-12-2013 by sk0rpi0n because: (no reason given)
Let's just say this, how about making the adulterers feel ashamed of even thinking about it, which is what Jesus said if you lust after another in your heart, you've already committed adultery.
Do and observe means you do the right thing always. We are to be Christ-like, not Pharisee-like. Do and observe means follow every bit of the law, even the laws that say forgive and have mercy, which is what the Pharisees were reminded to do. Yes, mercy and forgiveness trumps easy punishment every time. The Pharisees were committing adultery in their hearts and Jesus made it very clear that God knew it.
sk0rpi0n
it doesn't answer why he told people to "observe and do" as the Pharisees told them.
sk0rpi0n
Jesus had a problem with the Pharisees... not the law that they they were authorities on.
sk0rpi0n
How about at least following what Jesus said?
sk0rpi0n
reply to post by WarminIndy
Let's just say this, how about making the adulterers feel ashamed of even thinking about it, which is what Jesus said if you lust after another in your heart, you've already committed adultery.
When was the last time you saw a Christian turn the other cheek after being slapped?
If their hearts are made right, then they wouldn't be lusting, so no need for eye gouging. I think you just don't know that Christianity is about a change in the condition of the heart. How is it you people never seem to grasp the concept that Jesus taught your heart is wicked and He can change it to make it right?
Have you heard of a Christian who gouged his right eye out after looking at a woman with lust?
Do you know of a Christian divorcee who considers himself an adulterer?
How many of your Christian friends have sold all their wealth and given the proceeds to the poor?
You don't like Islam, fine.
You don't think Old Testament law applies to you, fine.
But Jesus, of the New Testament?? How about at least following what Jesus said? Or are you going to invent reasons on as to why even Jesus' teachings don't apply to you?
that more than likely was the command because of the culmination of what was about to happen? it had to be.
sk0rpi0n
reply to post by SisyphusRide
and he already took care of the Pharisees.
He is, but it doesn't answer why he told people to "observe and do" as the Pharisees told them.
The Pharisees were known to use the brutal stoning punishment according to the law of Moses. Yet Jesus, who spared the adulteress, seemed to acknowledged the authority of the same Pharisees... because they sat in the chair of Moses.
SisyphusRide
that more than likely was the command because of the culmination of what was about to happen? it had to be.
sk0rpi0n
reply to post by SisyphusRide
and he already took care of the Pharisees.
He is, but it doesn't answer why he told people to "observe and do" as the Pharisees told them.
The Pharisees were known to use the brutal stoning punishment according to the law of Moses. Yet Jesus, who spared the adulteress, seemed to acknowledged the authority of the same Pharisees... because they sat in the chair of Moses.
I don't know nothing about adultery, in my country people do not own one another even in marriage... the only time adultery most likely would come into play here is in divorce court.
Instead he said the law is to reman until heaven and earth pass away. "Law" includes the laws to deal with adulterers and the laws prohibiting swine meat.
wildtimes
reply to post by sk0rpi0n
I just now noticed what you said:
Instead he said the law is to reman until heaven and earth pass away. "Law" includes the laws to deal with adulterers and the laws prohibiting swine meat.
And I'm wondering if, by that statement, you mean that you think 'stoning adulterers' is appropriate NOW.
Also, this occurred to me: Is it that you are saying "adulterers are swine"?
edit on 12/4/13 by wildtimes because: (no reason given)
WarminIndy
This is a man being a pig, so he should have been stoned according to the very laws Muslims are appealing to...