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Man Claims Abandoned Homes Are Up For Grabs

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posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 10:40 PM
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Alright I'll start by apologizing, it has been a long time since I have done anything on this site, but I have to share this. Hopefully This thread is up to standard if not, throw me in the cellar and forget about me.

Anyways. In Ohio there was a Family who was away from home to see a dying relative. While they were gone, a man came into their house, changed their locks and moved their belongings out. He claims the house is his now, and is taking the family to court. He also has done this to several other families. He stated that he has a group of people that go around and help him do this.



It's called a "quiet title" and lays claim to the property because Carr said the family abandoned the house and gave up all rights.

Family members said they are too afraid to be identified.

"What he's looking for is full title and ownership of the home," the family's attorney, Alison Warner, said.

Carr expects to pay nothing to take the home.



Story Here


I think this is terrible myself, and I couldn't imagine being in that family's position. What do you have to say about this? How does it make you feel? And how do you think you would react?


Supposedly and FBI agent said something along the lines of "these types of cases don't hold up in court". I would hope not, that family earned that home.


What can be done to stop this?
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posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 10:42 PM
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Hmmmmm, looks like you posted prematurely?



posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 10:47 PM
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OK,

Need something more so we can contribute an informed opinion.

Peace



posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 10:49 PM
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That is exactly what happened. And I Thought great, all I gave them was "sorry, anyways." Terribly sorry about that, hit a wrong button I presume, but give it another chance Its posted now



posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 10:59 PM
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this isn't really any different than what the banks have been doing the last few years or those that buy the property on the tax auctions......it is all just using the system to gain someone else's hard earned gains.


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posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 11:04 PM
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The owners have got to be kidding right? First you call the sheriff to assist in removing the squatter. If that fails you get your weapons and physically remove the intruder from your home. If he attacks you defend yourself to the extent needed. Good grief.



posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 11:05 PM
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Hmmm maybe it's a psyop going on here to give a certain movement a bad name.

Or the people are completely psychotic. This is why we need to live in communities, that actually know and care about our neighborhoods. That kind of thing would never happen here.... We know when people are out of town, and when people should not be on their property. It's sad as hell if it went down as described in the story, hope they see justice done and are awarded a large fee for damages in the process.


I know in NY, I had some lady just move in and fix up a house, and then sue for ownership. It worked for her, but the place really was abandoned, overrun, etc. No one there for years, I think the owners inherited it, lived in the city somewhere and just never bothered with it.
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posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 11:10 PM
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Quitclaim deeds are one thing, cause you're purchasing it while the deadbeat mortgagees are still squatting in it, and responsible for the lenghty process of holdover eviction.

But being able to take over abandoned homes? Not gonna fly.

I abandon my home. It's still mortgaged, like virtually all homes in US nowadays area. My sis moves in and takes care of it - is she the new owner? Cool! But, no way can do- unless the bank agrees to her wanting to assume my loan

Cool anarchist theory, tho




posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 11:20 PM
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TKDRL


Or the people are completely psychotic. This is why we need to live in communities, that actually know and care about our neighborhoods. That kind of thing would never happen here.... We know when people are out of town, and when people should not be on their property. It's sad as hell if it went down as described in the story, hope they see justice done and are awarded a large fee for damages in the process.



Absolutely I hope so as well. I like to think that nothing like this would happen In my neighborhood either. I now live in the house I grew up in so all of my neighbors know my boyfriend and I. We can tell when they have been gone a few days, and we know for the most part whose cars are usually at which house.

However if this did happen to us, and some how no one noticed or cared to report it, I would take my home back by force if possible or necessary



posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 11:29 PM
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To add, the fact that the guy isn't ALREADY in prison for multiple grand larceny, breaking & entering, etc is scary

Police and FBI are too busy preparing for the next.. well you know what


Like I said, most homes in US are mortgaged and someone cant just walk in and take the house

If that's the case, everyone should just stop paying their mortgage and own their house... by possession



posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 11:33 PM
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Well, that certainly does seem wrong, and I'm sure those people will get their homes back.
However!
With so many people who are homeless, it does seem morally wrong when you see houses sitting empty for years on end, and in those cases I think a homeless person ought to be able to make a claim for the property.

Here in the uk most of our country villages are ghost towns for 50 weeks of the year, its because the very rich bought all the houses and only use them for a summer break. This has destroyed many small businesses in the villages because their populations have dropped to almost zero for eleven months of the year, meanwhile we have a massive housing shortage and people living on the streets!



posted on Nov, 26 2013 @ 12:02 AM
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The family is too scared to be named?? My name would have made the police blotter had I come home and seen some (bleeeep) staking claim to what I have worked so hard for. The entire state would have known my name before sunset. Granted my home may have been behind bars for a bit but damn.... sometimes you have to stand up for what's right. He has done this before because nobody has kneecapped him with high speed lead before.

WTH is wrong with people? I swear civilization is going to shiiite.



posted on Nov, 26 2013 @ 12:08 AM
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Can imagine the family are totally humiliated this guy was able to get away so far!

How can someone just move themself right int multiple preforeclosures - heck, not even the county marshal can do that until the bank officially forecloses it i court (another few months) then evicts them, then places the house up for auction and takes bids, which must of course be paid before there is even a closing date, keys etc.

Thinking of this lousy excuse for a 'man' and his accomplices makes my blood boil! How can he even still be alive after what he has already done?

Hope he ends up in prison and gets to play 'house' with lots of 'owners' behind bars soon!



posted on Nov, 26 2013 @ 12:15 AM
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I'm not quite sure how he seems to be getting away with this. Another thing you would think would be a red flag, it is mentioned in the article that several of the claims were filed on the same day. Didn't anyone looking at that say hmmm. This doesn't seem right? Perhaps no one even looks at these claims untill they are on a desk waiting to be approved.



posted on Nov, 26 2013 @ 12:28 AM
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One day he might do this to a member of the military on active duty and find the federal military JAG backing the service member
Along with his military buddies.

Me i would have just got a few veteran friends and made a citizen's arrest with force.

No jury would ever convict me of beating a trespasser like this guy.



posted on Nov, 26 2013 @ 12:35 AM
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I would be willing to guess that this perp and his "backup" are intimidating for one. They do their homework on people beforehand and aren't just picking a victim at random.

The perfect victim would be mild mannered, non violent and afraid of their own shadow. Judging by their anonymity request, they are. Add a mortgage, kids and a sudden "guest" who changes the locks.

He's playing them for their gullibility. Those who wouldn't tolerate this aren't the kind of people this ass wipe targets.

That he isn't arrested and in jail for being a burglar is also indicative off the legal climate in that town. How does a lowly citizen fight the bank and city hall, let alone a bunch of local thugs?



posted on Nov, 26 2013 @ 03:18 AM
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there are differences in the laws of the USA and UK , but this seems [ my opinion ] to be a variant of the " adverse prossesion scam "

I am puzzled though

he claims " abandonment " - but for how long

he may be using some manor of " colour of title " filing to prop up his claim

but I am at a los to see how a genuine owner with title would fail to secure an instant writ of eviction [ with the legal force of sherrifs deputies to enforce it ]



posted on Nov, 26 2013 @ 06:41 AM
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My first thought would be to take it back by force.

But if you had a place to stay and a calm devious mind, I would consider watching the place until it became empty and doing the same thing to him. But I would not stop there, I would find his other homes and do the same thing. A little more digging to find if he has a wife and kids, do it to that house as well, and then parents and grandparents if any.

Then start the same process on his cohorts.

Maybe not the best plan but sometimes you have to turn the tables.



posted on Nov, 26 2013 @ 09:43 AM
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Hey, look: It's time for another posting of my favorite picture for people believing in Libertarian Society and its advantages against, for example, socialism:




And yes, I think that grabbing houses which are unoccupied without consent of its owners is a feature of Libertarianism.
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posted on Nov, 26 2013 @ 12:25 PM
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Well since the bank isn't residing on the property why can't homeowners used the so called 'quiet title' to gain title to the property and kick the mortgage to the curb?



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