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White House Bullies Cancer Patient Over Her Critique of Obamacare

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posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 11:38 AM
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Ahh, President Obama ... the great Uniter in Chief. Or something. Remember when President Hopey-Changey was going to usher us into an era of butterflies and rainbows and free medical care for all? Things aren’t exactly working out like that, are they? The Obama Administration seems to have a tough time facing failure. Take senior communications strategist Dan Pfeiffer, who took to Twitter on Monday to bully a woman with stage-4 gallbladder cancer. The White House is now belittling a cancer patient. That’s what we’ve come to, America.

Because of the new regulations in Obamacare, her insurance company can no longer afford to keep her covered. To get a similar plan with another company, her rates will go up 50 percent or more. And there’s no exchange she can purchase in California that will allow her to keep both her life-saving care at Stanford and her emergency care and primary physicians in San Diego.

Wow. So Obamacare makes it impossible for insurance companies to continue offering the same plans at the same rates as they have been, forcing customers to find less adequate care, and all of a sudden it’s the insurers’ fault? And telling a stage-4 cancer patient who is part of the 2 percent alive more than five years after her type of diagnosis, who has done impeccable research on the matter, and quite possibly may die now because she can’t get care that she’s wrong?

I really think someone should have looked up the definition of unity before Team Obama started using it as a slogan.
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Not sure if this was posted as it is a few weeks old. Mods please correct if wrong.

I could not believe what I was reading. The whole D##n administration is completely off their rocker!




posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 12:39 PM
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Sadly what Obamacare forgot to tell the people is, that even if you have pre existing conditions that your insurance can not denied you, but they can drop you, you still will be paying more to keep you insured somewhere else, see Obama told people that they could not be denied, no that they will no be gouged for it.



posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 01:18 PM
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Indeed.. he forgot to mention a little detail. You cannot be denied for pre-existing but no one said WHO couldn't deny us. It sounded like OUR OWN company or ANY company couldn't deny someone that way. Errr... So much for that promise or implied one. Another day, another new reality to try on and get comfy with.

Heck, who needs creative methods of population control by some Dr. Doom in a dark room somewhere? SO many people are ill in SOME way these days, just pull back medical care, a little bit. It takes all the medicines we have with technology to back it, to give as many a second chance or more life as we've become accustomed to.

All they need to do for dramatic population number changes, it seems to me, is do nothing. Literally...do nothing. People will die all by themselves for neglect and lack of appropriate care.



posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 01:22 PM
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Everyone saw this coming.

Nothing new if you have been paying attention.



posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 01:33 PM
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The ACA didn't tell this insurance company to drop this woman's insurance they chose to drop her insurance on their own. Simply because they won't be able to make as much profit off her like they was before the ACA. Now that she has been cut off they can jack her rates up and make even more profit.



posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 01:34 PM
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macman
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Everyone saw this coming.

Nothing new if you have been paying attention.
I've actually been paying a lot of attention. What I was amazed at was not the fact that O'care screwed everyone, but the fact that they had the audacity to try to blame the people and insurers for their obvious f##k up!



posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 01:39 PM
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buster2010
The ACA didn't tell this insurance company to drop this woman's insurance they chose to drop her insurance on their own. Simply because they won't be able to make as much profit off her like they was before the ACA. Now that she has been cut off they can jack her rates up and make even more profit.

And yet... for some reason they were content with the amount of profit they were making before.

The entire issue is they had found a balance that worked for both business and customer. Now nobody is capable of delivering the service in a way that works for the business and the customer due to the new requirements. Thus that business niche is not going to be filled and the person in need is left without.

Not because it's not possible... but because of the requirement to adhere to regulations unrelated to her health needs designed on the opposite side of the country by people who won't be directly subject to the regulations they are designing.
edit on 25-11-2013 by BardingTheBard because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 01:41 PM
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Oh, my comments weren't directed towards you. Just those that are championing this crap.



posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 01:43 PM
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The Govt created the conditions for the Health Insurance Companies to operate within.

Now that the Insurance Companies are working through this, and doing what a business is supposed to do, you know, turn a profit, the companies are the bad guys.


Man I love hearing the BS excuses put forth by 0bama, 0bama supporters and Progressives.



posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 01:45 PM
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buster2010
The ACA didn't tell this insurance company to drop this woman's insurance they chose to drop her insurance on their own. Simply because they won't be able to make as much profit off her like they was before the ACA. Now that she has been cut off they can jack her rates up and make even more profit.


if she is getting all this treatment, I assure you the insurance company is paying out more for her care than her premiums. She is upset because OTHER people in the insurance are no longer subsidizing HER care..

the problem is PROFIT intertwined with HEALTH..


all want to pay a few hundred a month and get MILLIONS in care if needed.. Can NOT happen. Insurance is a confidence SCAM.. Scare everyone into something where they will as a whole, give the company more money than the company expects to payout for all the care of the group.



posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 02:17 PM
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HanzHenry


if she is getting all this treatment, I assure you the insurance company is paying out more for her care than her premiums. She is upset because OTHER people in the insurance are no longer subsidizing HER care..

the problem is PROFIT intertwined with HEALTH..


all want to pay a few hundred a month and get MILLIONS in care if needed.. Can NOT happen. Insurance is a confidence SCAM.. Scare everyone into something where they will as a whole, give the company more money than the company expects to payout for all the care of the group.




So what you are saying is that you agree with Dan Pfeiffer that it is this woman's fault. She had a perfectly good working relationship with her insurance company up until the point that O'care was implemented. This forced the insurance company to cancel her insurance because it no longer fell within the guidelines of acceptable(according to O'care) coverage. Now because of special needs she not only has to pay double, but cannot even get the kind of coverage she had before. UNBELIEVABLE!!!!

Just to set the record straight getting other people to help share the cost of medical expense is exactly what O'care is all about.



posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 04:44 PM
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I never get tired to tell that ACA was never mean to control cost, just that people could not be denied insurance and that insurance is mandated as a tax.

The biggest loophole for the insurance companies to profit from, because let get real, in America the land of corporatism making profits is what free markets are all about.



posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 06:44 PM
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posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 07:13 PM
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LOL That was super!! Thank you. You made my week!



posted on Nov, 26 2013 @ 12:34 PM
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colddeadhands

HanzHenry


if she is getting all this treatment, I assure you the insurance company is paying out more for her care than her premiums. She is upset because OTHER people in the insurance are no longer subsidizing HER care..

the problem is PROFIT intertwined with HEALTH..

all want to pay a few hundred a month and get MILLIONS in care if needed.. Can NOT happen. Insurance is a confidence SCAM.. Scare everyone into something where they will as a whole, give the company more money than the company expects to payout for all the care of the group.




So what you are saying is that you agree with Dan Pfeiffer that it is this woman's fault. She had a perfectly good working relationship with her insurance company up until the point that O'care was implemented. This forced the insurance company to cancel her insurance because it no longer fell within the guidelines of acceptable(according to O'care) coverage. Now because of special needs she not only has to pay double, but cannot even get the kind of coverage she had before. UNBELIEVABLE!!!!

Just to set the record straight getting other people to help share the cost of medical expense is exactly what O'care is all about.


Agree? where?
I have three distinct columns of info, which one states an agreeance with him?

If you think the insurance companies are innocent, then wow.. they are amongst the scummiest of industries. I worked as an insurance agent for 9 months. The companies ALL have confidentiality agreements and ALL find ways around laws that jeopardize profits.

People buying the throwing hands up in exascerbation response by the insurance corps..

I have some tropical beach property for you at a steal!

"Just to set the record straight getting other people to help share the cost of medical expense is exactly what O'care is all about. "

that is what INSURANCE is ALL ABOUT... the insurance companies WROTE this monster..ffs.

people can be thick at times
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posted on Nov, 26 2013 @ 12:44 PM
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the insurance companies were facing the BLACK HOLE of the future medical expenses of MILLIONS of additional seniors. This whole thing is a head fake, by the INSURANCE companies. No way could health insurance have continued in it's current form. Think about social security and the DOOM that awaits when all the boomers retire..

EXPONENTIAL COSTS in relation to the DOOM in health care. the increase in SSI payments was DWARFED
by the future payouts for care..

Imagine when darn near EVERY person between the ages of 60-90 pay $300-600 a month for insurance.. AND expect 10's of THOUSANDS in treatment ANNUALLY..

can't happen... blame it on MATH.

People talk about a whole slew of corporations. defense contractors, banks, investment firm, etc..

INSURANCE TRUMPS THEM ALL>

that is the MOST powerful INDUSTRY in the world.. $$ KAH-CHING!... insurance has its hands in EVERY POCKET< and EVERY business venture of all sorts.



posted on Nov, 26 2013 @ 12:48 PM
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Picture car insurance. Avg monthly is $126 across the nation. (old figure, still applicable)

that equals less than 2k/year.

all works when only a FEW have wrecks. because millions are paying for the insurance when only thousands make claims..

What if EVERYONE who had car insurance went out this year and had, on average, a claim that requires $20,000 to clear it all up. (cheap price for a new car)

well, if everyone is paying hundreds out for insurance, and expecting thousands...

that will not work... for a single second.



posted on Nov, 26 2013 @ 02:15 PM
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Yes you are right they will become the biggest of the biggest in the long list of supported by the tax payer entities, Do you remember when the bailouts were going on? people forgot that insurance companies were in the list to get bailouts, but interestingly the Bush administration (I am not fan of Bush Jr.) told them that it was not in the best interest of the tax payer to include them for bailout

People have short term memories, their bailout came after, with Obamacare, people sometimes can not put one and one together because the propaganda pro Obamacare was too good and too misleading for the average person to understand the deceiving tactics, but when people try to inform the uninformed they dismissed as just been anti poor and needy and anti Obama.

The irony.



posted on Nov, 26 2013 @ 04:34 PM
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right! HMO's needed more insured payers, just the kind that DON'T cost a lot.

THE YOUNG!! the whole thing is a SCAM, so the young (those shafted most) are to pay for the health care of the old (boomers who lived the gravy train for 40 years)..

Now, why should the young (who have NOWHERE NEAR THE QUALITY of life) pay for the healthcare of those that had WAY more opportunity and wealth building years --->when things cost a fourth what they do now.

NO WAY.... let the old, those that had this thing called OPPORTUNITY for their ENTIRE LIVES, pay for their OWN health care, if they die.. oh well, we all do.. (they had the best run in the history of man when it comes to wealth to squander)..

SO, us young should have NO JOBS, NO PROSPERITY (when it compares to the older), and then we should pay for their twilight years to be doled out by someone else..

I say, let the geezers keel over, they are locusts that picked every field clean anyway... AND THEY did NOTHING but allow every problem to get worse over last 50 years



posted on Nov, 26 2013 @ 04:42 PM
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Truthfully the middle age and working able, had insurance, the ones that didn't, are actually the ones that ACA was advertising as been the ones in need of a healthcare reform.

But been nothing but a scam to get a grab of the young healthy and able, the very poor and needy do not even qualify for ACA and neither for the subsidies, and millions of the working able adults were dropped like flies from their insurance, is interesting to see that also most of those with pre existing conditions are within the poor and needy.

Now the older group already have medicare to get them by.





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