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Angola Bans Islam - Destroys Mosques

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posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 08:22 AM
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It might contribute to the violence.
But.
If we get rid of religion. in a hundred years when we still have the violence some people will thnk we need religion to have peace.

It nevervworks

religion is needed for those who need it.

Violent hateful self entitled people will exist with or without imaginary friends


ldyserenity
reply to post by StallionDuck
 


Awesome, now they should ban all religion...like every bit of it...because there's always someone killing in the name of religion. Others should follow suit.




posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 08:34 AM
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undo
it isn't religion that's creating wars. it's human societies. for example, stalin was the worst dictator in human history, created a purely atheistic society, and the western elite knew how bad he was, while he was doing it, and they hid it from us for 60 years. and this wasn't a case where he just went out and killed 20,000 of his citizens like saddam. he killed millions. last count was around 50 million of his own people, 15 million or so, he starved to death in their own homes. look up :stalin starved the ukraine" on youtube. he was several times over, worse than hitler, and was doing it at the same time hitler was up to his schenanigans and our press never said a word. instead they collaborated with communists and socialists, which we are seeing the results of now. they let us know about hitler though.


Can you please post some actual historical sites that will back your claim of 50 millions?

Not sure what to make out of all of this, nor I understand what are you trying to prove.

So in your opinion, things are better the way they are?


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posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 08:57 AM
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Auricom


Norwegians fought off the Swedes, Danish and the Nazi's to keep Norway independent and free from tyranny only to be destroyed from within thanks to Islamization.



am Christian and have nothing against any other religion,
but by the same token would say that Jesus is the only way to Salvation.
Now to the point , do you mean to say that muslims turning the table
on Norwegians has become a norm rather than an exception?



posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 08:59 AM
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phyllida
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Sorry Wrabbit but alleged ignorance and hate go both ways

The West has been extremely tolerant and bends over backwards to accomodate most if not all peoples. We have had in drummed into us for years just what rotten people we white folks were and how we must change and how we must accept and how we must be tolerant and understanding...seems it doesn't go both ways however.

I'm sick to death of people playing on the white guilt trip in order to get their own way

If the West was so bloody bad immigration would cease to be a problem!


We're crossing all kinds of unrelated issues here, I'd say. White Guilt has little or nothing to do with the place of Islam in the overall global order of things. Whites, contrary to our sense of self, don't comprise a controlling majority of the world as a whole, and struggle to maintain that in individual nations, at this stage of history. How that factors in is where you lose me.

Hate going both ways is a valid problem to some degree, but again, on this thread we're talking personal outlook and opinion as much as anything, which is where I've been a bit startled. Some people actually believe one of the 3 major World Faiths and a base for over a Billion people's daily life and moral guidance is inherently evil.

It's a hard place to go anywhere constructive when that is the place it's starting from.



posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 09:04 AM
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We need to start investigating seriously the true origins of all
these 'religions' that have brought nothing but division and destruction
onto the human race. In this 'age of enlightenment' we appear to more
ignorant that ever before. We are truly living in dark ages.

I am re-reading '1984' at the moment. I suggest others do the same.



posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 09:05 AM
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In his book, “Unnatural Deaths in the U.S.S.R.: 1928-1954,” I.G. Dyadkin estimated that the USSR suffered 56 to 62 million "unnatural deaths" during that period, with 34 to 49 million directly linked to Stalin.


www.ibtimes.com...



posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 09:05 AM
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And everytime you ban something it doesn't disappear anyway it simply goes underground for a time

Its not religion that needs banning its just people should realise that their faith is their own and if it was so strong nothing should shake it and certainly not films books western media or whatever they percieve to be insulting.

Also lastly I thought religion WAS part of human society so religion is very much part of war and the rest



posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 09:14 AM
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it's a totalitarian political system with a specific religion as its motivator. it's not simply a religion. it can't have any communion with western civilization, so the only way it can stay in large numbers, in a western civilization, is if it is required to follow the laws of the land it is in or is allowed to make its own mini-state within the country. it has its own laws though. so that is the problem. and i think the european leaders know that



posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 09:23 AM
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You know what I find strange ? ...No Angola flags burned nor embassy protests so far !?!?!



posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 09:30 AM
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would it be safe to say that europe's leaders are allowing their countries to be taken over by fascism?
that's completely unnatural for the secularized european nations. muslims and other people of europe, need to realize this. what is going on in europe currently, it's completely unnatural and that means big trouble is in the works.


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posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 09:33 AM
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Auricom
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But see, that's the problem with Islam. It doesn't allow others to worship the way they want. In fact, Islam comes into a country and demands they adhere to Islam! I'll use a little example: In Norway around 2007ish, Muslims made a big commotion because Norwegian banks used the old fashioned "piggy banks". In their eyes, this was insane and they threatened to demonstrate and raise hell.





This demonstrates a great deal of cultural ignorance and stupidity by Muslim immigrants. That's understandable if hardly tolerable. What should be of more concern is the pride and arrogance, the brother and sister of stupidity, this religion develops in its followers. They lack the understanding to see that these host countries were getting along fine without them for many years. As well the inbuilt isolationism, contempt that leads to violent outbursts ect are precisely the sort of things that can make for one big pain in the azz.



posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 09:33 AM
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It doesn't surprise me. Angola was a nation I was hearing about as a CIA stomping ground and back water place for quiet little brush fire wars clear back in the 80's when conspiracy theory wasn't a popular thing to talk about. I'm guessing they've had so much of this, it's just another fight with different causes to the sides...if the causes are even all that different this time.



Precolonial history
to 1575

Colonization
1575–1641

Dutch occupation
1641–1648

Colonial history
1648–1951

Portuguese province
1951–1961

War of Independence
1961–1974

Civil War
1975–2002
(Source: Wiki)

(Wiki ought to be able to manage some basic dates for accuracy, anyway)



posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 09:45 AM
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I stand with Angola.



posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 09:48 AM
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Do you think these people of Angola have the right to do what they are doing?


These people of Angola are the Muslims being banned are they not?

It might be a small majority of the population but they are still Angolans are they not?




This makes me wonder what Islam is really about.


Does it really?

If so why not study what Islam has to offer and gain your own understanding?




Some say it's only the radicals, but at the same time, for all who follow the koran, they must follow the same words that lead the radicals to do what they do.



Can you show its words that lead insane people to do insane things or is that a simple cover for the insane to attempt to show justice in what they do by using the words of religion to back their actions?




So just how big is Islam in, say... England?


Your answer being a Youtube video of young hooligans,

why not show an official source that answers the question. Wiki is a place to start with basic facts as such that you cross check else where.




What say you ATS?


Education is key,

That's about it.

If Islam really has you wondering research and gain knowledge.

Stay away from YouTube and the likes. It is agenda driven.



posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 09:56 AM
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I chose to compare comments made by ATS members and members of a Stormfront forum.
There is not much difference apart that some ATS members used words such as "cancer" and termination about Muslims. It is mind-blowing that similar (or even worse) rhetoric as used on a Nazi forum is allowed to flourish on a site such as ATS. I'm all for free speech but some of the comments here are nothing but pure hate speech. Scary stuff.

ATS comments:

Lurker1
The answers to your questions are yes, yes, and yes. I'm happy to see someone has the courage to send a message to the Muslims.


Auricom
Good on Angola. It's like a cancer that spreads slowly.


rigel4
Yey Angola.... Next stop the UK
Well we can hope!


maxzen2004
They should be terminated.


xavi1000
Good news .Angola politicians are smart people with vision.


fixer1967
Today Angola, tomorrow the world.


gs002
Great trend,I believe there must be one day when all the countries in the world can't endure the evil behavior of Muslim and
decide to expel them.


Mclaneinc
So well done Angola


xxerse
Indeed the best action to be taken!


gs002
If a religion produce great amount of terrorists endlessly and cause most of the violence in the world, the religion itself must has problem and deserve ban by the world.


Stormfront comments:

Let us hope it isn't the last.


A third-world country showing us the way ? Oh well , I would not mind if Angola's example is followed by Anglia !


I don't like to say this; Angola you're doing it right!


How i would love to hear that statement made in the House of Corruption and treachery(Commons)!


sad state of things when Angola does better than the White world at something.


Good for them


Please tell me this true


Excellent. Fair play to them on calling out the Muslims on their crappy cult.


How great would this sight be in London or Paris


A lot of people ask "How can you remove multiculturalism", and "How can you deport so many people". The answer is simple: Brute force, and a determined leadership. Its not rocket science to remove Islam from a Nation. All it takes is enough bulldozers and soldiers. In a year or two, even a country the size of the UK could have most of its Muslims removed and Mosques bulldozed.


Angola leads the way here. Good for them. We should be ashamed by our own inaction in the face of the Islamist menace.


I sure respect Angola. We should remember that nation.


Black Africans don't get much respect here but I salute them 100%.


Good for them.Some common sense for a change.

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posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 10:01 AM
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beezzer
I think everyone should be able to practice their faith as they seem fit, as long as it doesn't interfere with the rights of any others.

But what do I know. . . .



I think you know the truth, the way forward.



I actually think that is the core to all beliefs systems, Its corrupted by people making interpretation that will fit their agenda


But Like you what do I know, something so simple cant be right because all can understand then all are free, it has to be complex so there can be debate and division for Divide and conquer.



posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 10:06 AM
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So sorry if im out of line here but
W...T...F

Ban a religion...Yea right. Good luck with that one..

I can haz 3 ppl worshiping a stone i picked in my garden
if i like. And the horse in our pants are our saviours...

NOT ONE IOTA YOU CAN DO ABOUT IT...oh PERIOD

Soo...Not that im a religous person or even LIKES
religion in ANY way. But banning the likes...
SUUUUUUUURE

Now for the Angolans and any nation for that matter.
The only way to solve the issues with crimes of that
sort you described in op, prison, more prison and
if that doesnt work IF imigrant deportation. If
it is a citicen, hard labour, more prison and
more hard labour....And the some...



posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 10:07 AM
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The problem is this is not allowed in a muslim country as only Islam is allowed.


Please do show one Islamic country like this, that are banning a whole religion and attempting to wipe any evidence of it from the land.



posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 10:09 AM
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my country is next to Angola, we have lots of Muslims who we grew up with and are our brothers and sisters. There is no economical reason for Islam to be banned except to appease the Christian religion that was forced on everybody by the British. This not a victory of peace, but a victory for Christianity, Mugabe of Zimbabwe removed all white farmers who where former colonialist from his country, thats a win for his nation. Removing Islam is not a win, just intolerance from one religion to another, outlawing all religions would be the win.



posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 10:13 AM
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...is not a win, just intolerance from one religion to another, outlawing all religions would be the win....


QFTW!

It is funny tho, im in Canada, i see all this fear mongering about Muslims on American Media taking over etc etc, but that is not the case, it is just like everyday here, they do their stuff and we do our stuff and others do other stuff...


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