This is a thought I've had for awhile, but it is a bit difficult to articulate so bear with me..
Perhaps it would be useful in illustrating my point, if you have an idea of the "religious environment" of my upbringing..
I wasn't raised with "religion" as being something that was mandatory or even seen positively, in my family.
-My mother is "spiritual" (she has a general idea of how she sees things work, but she doesn't subscribe to one religion, and was raised Unitarian)
She always liked hearing about what my sister and I thought about the world, and talked WITH us about it, in discussion without a "right" or "wrong"
view to strive for.. (when we were children
mind you.. very rarely do adults seem to ASK a child anything besides "what do YOU want for
-My father always says "the roof of my church is blue-sky" and, while interested in the occult and collected some Aleister Crowley, Carlos Castaneda,
and other esoteric stuff.. He was more interested in pantheism and always encouraged me to decide for myself what seemed true in the world of
religions. His wife was Greek Orthodox and was VERY devout, but never preached or criticized what my sister and I, said, believed, or anything like
that. I always thought that this was a very peculiar and rare trait for a Christian, and hence she was probably the ONLY Christian that really got me
thinking about her system of belief and ENJOYING going to Church with her (though, I think I mostly only went for the music
Now for my point!
Firstly, the one aspect of a religious person's mentality that has REALLY confused me, probably since going to hokey churches with friends at about
3rd or 4th grade (they spoke in tongues..
), is that Christians worship a god that needs
PRAISE and BELIEF.. but "he" is also supposedly
omniscient and omnipotent.. haha.
Just in using their own religion as a source of reasoning, WHY would this sort of "God" NEED anything from us..?
I think it's directly related to that word "belief"..
This word (contrary to popular usage) actually describes a skeptical point-of-view, but phrased in a positive way..
For example, I might say "I believe
in Evolution" but I wouldn't say "I believe in Gravity"..
This is because, while there is observable evidence that could be interpreted as pointing towards a phenomenon termed Evolution
, Evolution is
not something that we can DIRECTLY experience without interpretation..
Gravity, however, is a part of the nature of EVERYTHING and is fundamental to structure and causality.. It requires no participation or contemplation
to experience it, and the word "gravity" describes a phenomenon that would still exist in a world without language or life, while "Evolution"
describes a theory
that, while it might describe a very real trend or phenomenon, still only describes a collection of ideas that require
belief for them to have form and to be experienced
. Belief is for the agnostic mind who is building upon theories which may point to something we
can experience, but cannot be experienced by a non-intellectual mind..
Now, to discuss Faith.
In the example above, I say that one must BELIEVE in Evolution (or, so I don't appear to be picking on evolution, a paradigm like Quantum Mechanics)
for it to be a useful theory in your life..
but Gravity does not require belief.. it demands FAITH.
Before a child finds out "the truth" about Santa Claus, for example, they don't really NEED to say "I believe in Santa Claus" because they have FAITH
that he exists.. They might speak to other children about Santa, but they aren't evangelical because they ASSUME that Santa is simply a part of "what
happens" at that time of year. They are much more likely to speak about Santa in the same way that they would speak about a family member or a
friend.. Santa is REAL
in their world..
However, when another child implies that Santa DOESN'T exist, we tend to see a reaction similar to a Christian (or dogmatic scientists..) faced with
the same confrontation..
anger, denial, and personal insults..
anything to protect that "belief system" (B.S.) which has been given the responsibility of explaining-away most of the mysteries of the world and if
threatened... the dreaded Unknown might come knocking at the door..
The same goes for how MOST Christians think about God..
They tend to "believe" in God, "believe" He has a plan for all of us, and "believe" that Jesus (yanno.. that peace-loving martyr for Love..) is going
to come back to Earth, punish the un-faithful
, and basically undo the creation..
I don't want to reiterate the centuries and centuries worth of criticisms against the Christian and Jewish (and the others') churches, but this where
their "system of belief" really starts to unravel..
The God that they describe is supposed
to be something that is no different than my Gravity-example above (in fact, Gravity would be a part, or
expression, of this God concept..) but Christians and Jews tend to "believe" in God, as in my Evolution-example, because they THINK that this is
the correct stance to take, and will be punished if they don't hold this belief
starting to see what i'm saying..?
I think most of the problems in Religion have come with the widespread feeling amongst followers, that they OUGHT to believe
in one God or
another, rather than having faith
that there is *something* out there, which some people call God, but does not need
anything in terms
of "belief" and "lip-service" to make anything happen, just as Gravity does not seem to be affected by persuasion or our opinions about it..
Just as we say that a person "holds a belief", so too are the religious attempted to "hold onto God", which is equivalent to trying to see the back of
your own head..
Basically the conspiracy is keeping the masses confused (using Double-Speak and paradox wherever possible) so they are uncertain and wavering in their
Faith, so they feel they must LEARN to Believe, while stagnating all
other learning which conflicts with their religious BELIEFS..
There are far too many layers of this conspiracy to take into account in this thread, but I think that THE fundamental problem in every system of
religion or paradigm
is this mistaking of Belief, for Faith.
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