reply to post by JJRichey
Hey, the main thing is, people make the climate debate a whole lot more complex than it has to be. Here are the facts:
In 1824, a top mathematician and really smart dude by the name of Joseph Fourier noticed that a greenhouse, filled with gases like C02 got hotter than
a greenhouse filled with regular air. It trapped more sunlight. This is a simply verifiable scientific fact. (you can do the experiment in your
backyard) Then the second component was people noticed that coal, gas, and all the rest output C02 into the environment to make it more like that
greenhouse, and they started to ask if the output of all human industry, over hundreds of years, couldn't raise the temp of the entire climate. This
thought too goes way back: Alexander Graham Bell write in 1917 about it:
In 1917 Alexander Graham Bell wrote “[The unchecked burning of fossil fuels] would have a sort of greenhouse effect”, and “The net result is
the greenhouse becomes a sort of hot-house.” Bell went on to also advocate for the use of alternate energy sources, such as solar
It resurfaced again in the 1970s, when objective observations noticed we have a higher degree of C02 than any point in history. People started asking
again if we might be heating the world up. Nobody in these days was proposing any "alternative theories" of what WOULD cause the world to heat, they
just called the greenhouse gas people hoaxers. Then the increase in temperature was observed, and all the other theories started to come out AFTER
what the greenhouse gas people had been predicting for hundreds of years.
So its all simple stuff in the end. No one really knows what the big effects will be, but it seems like something is going on. At the same time,
we're seeing an increase in the rates of really destructive storms, so people are thinking that may be connected too. But in the end, again, no one
knows, but common sense points us to the fact that climate change is a reality.
Now there's people who think that the only way to respond to it is with "one world government" and all this, so they stand against the idea that
its real as a way to stand against one world government. But I assure you, one world government won't happen. Kyoto was flawed because it gave China
and India free passes, and China is now the biggest producer of C02 in the world, with the US having cleaned up its act impressively. So there is no
US policy that can change China, because they are independent of us. Also, there is no energy technology yet which can replace fossil fuels, our
economy depends on them totally. So the bottom line is, people need to chill out, and stop trying to change scientific realities to fit their
political/economic desires, because sober minds know there is no one world govt. or replacement for fossil fuels, but we still need to look at these
problems strait on.
OR it could just be the HAARP weather weapon in action. Strange times, these...