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"Have We Got a Message from ET?" - Three Dress Rehearsals for Contact Online

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posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 10:15 PM
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I just came across this very interesting paper which was published 7 years ago in the science journal Contact in Context (Volume 2 Number 2, 2007) and thought some of you might be interested in it.



INTRODUCTION
The Invitation to ETI (www.ieti.org...) project was founded by Dr. Allen Tough (www.allentough.com...) in 1996. It is based on the assumption that a smart probe from some advanced civilization may be on earth, observing us undetected. One of the things that this alien probe might be able to track and monitor is the World Wide Web. A particular website has been designed to draw attention of any alien lurkers. On behalf of a group of nearly 100 scientists, scholars, artists and individuals interested in establishing contact with ETI, the Invitation to ETI project uses its website to invite any ETI to abandon its present policy of silence and to establish communication with us.


Full paper here:

Have We Got a Message from ET?": Three Dress Rehearsals for Contact Online - Contact in Context - (Volume 2 Number 2, 2007)



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posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 10:18 PM
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ETs is they are ETs want to remain in stealth. What would be the motive behind that?



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 10:20 PM
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AthlonSavage
ETs is they are ETs want to remain in stealth. What would be the motive behind that?


What would be the motive behind hiding?

The fact is no one can pretend to know what an alien intelligence will do. They're all guesses at this point (some better educated than others).

The rationale of the experiment was that if such an intelligence wanted to contact us then that would be another avenue of contact.
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posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 10:28 PM
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Interesting! So They are on the web after all!

Welcome. Please stay away from Earth, it is needing Help yet the risk is to High. Just so you know, they will shoot you down and never ask any question but how your stuff works.

By the way, if you are missing any others like you I'm sure their being held with out bail period! Please be aware it is not all of us doing this to them.

I know we sent out a probe to say Hello long ago. We did not know it was a trick to get you here. Please forgive our wrongdoings, and I would offer my time in letting you know everything to save you from harm here on Earth.

Again I would like to say we are deeply Sorry.

Peace



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 10:34 PM
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I also posted the above because I see that mainstream science unfairly takes a beating on this forum for being supposedly close minded to contact scenarios outside of the box.

If nothing else this paper shows that about 100 scientists are open to any sort of contact if it can be verified to be an ETI contacting us, even a channeled contact provided the ETI can give us something testable or something we did not know before but is common knowledge to them.

Most contact claims lack that sort of evidence.


The TwelveasOne Messenger
This claim was an unusual one. On August 11, 2001, Dr. Tough received an email message via the Yahoo group mechanism from someone calling himself “TwelveasOne”. The author of the message claimed that he did get messages from ETI. Because the IETI group cannot exclude the possibility of ETI contacting humanity using the disguise of a person on earth, any opportunity to verify a claim must be taken.

Dr. Tough replied and asked 10 specific questions to be answered by the claimant. These questions covered a wide range of topics. He asked about the star or planet they originally came from, the culture they had, who their neighbors were in the galaxy and beyond, what humans should do to achieve contact with ETI, the destination of the universe, their assessment of us, the path human society should take to achieve our potential, our contribution to the universe, etc. The claimant provided answers to each of these questions. To Dr. Tough, these answers appeared to be profound and complete, bearing “the ring of truth about them.” In addition, TwelveasOne seemed to have a deep, accurate knowledge of SETI. When Dr. Tough asked what sorts of evidence could be provided, TwelveasOne said that he could provide “ideas for discussions, research, warnings and advice, governmental regulations, considered judgment and a divine ‘right of passage’ to the unknown”.

However, three months into his online communication with Dr. Tough, TwelveasOne was still ignoring the request to provide some hard evidence proving his ET authenticity. This was when Dr. Tough decided to consult the group of 100 scientists and asked them how to proceed next. Their unanimous instruction was that Dr. Tough should not “spend more time corresponding with TwelveasOne until he has evidence of the claimant’s true identity.”

Eventually, on July 02, 2002. Dr. Tough received a message from someone named Hugh Matlock, admitting that he was the “human being channel” who channels the messages from TwelveAsOne, “the author of the messages.” Although Dr. Tough does not believe TwelveasOne is communicating from a genuine ETI, he continues to communicate with him even until this day. According to Dr. Tough, the communication with TwelveasOne is more like two people interested in the ETI topic.


Interesting stuff. If TwelveAsOne is reading this forum I would like to talk with him.
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posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 11:04 PM
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I actually loved it myself!

Just thought I would send out a message to them just in case!

Can we blame them for being in Hide Mode? NO! What if They are from the future knowing somethings going to happen, Yet knowing changing the time line could make it worst later on. So they make very small changes to the Timeline.

Or something Special is going to happen and all came out to see the show. One might consider they are here for something. Have been around since man lived in caves!

We could ponder what if's yet might as well at least Welcome them anyway! They are either here to help, watch or invade. One could say passing by though and refueling also.

Since they can travel through out space, would it not be kind to inform them at least? Who knows, maybe one of the nukes did cause more damage out there then we really know. Could it be our Space Brothers who came back and wondered how things are doing on Earth?

Since we really do not know, might as well be nice and say Hello.

Peace



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 11:19 PM
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infoseeker26754
I actually loved it myself!


Thanks.

I came across it when pondering the idea of nanometer size alien probes as an answer to the Fermi paradox which Jim Oberg brought up.

Without invoking the Zoo Hypothesis I started thinking about just how much we've miniaturized electronics and other devices for use in space over the last 50-60 years.

For instance this in 1960:
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Is now this size in 2013:



And can be made by HIGH SCHOOL KIDS!


"First satellite designed and built by high school students"

How much smaller might they be in 2113 or 2513? or 3113?

See what I mean?

Nanoscale sized alien probes could be crawling across your computer right now and you'd never know it.

The solar system and Earth could be awash with them and unless one looked very hard and very carefully they'd likely escape detection (don't worry, there are actually scientists looking for them, they just aren't in the media eye much).


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posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 11:51 PM
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Oh I'm not worried at all! Darn bugs in my system anyway


Now we have to wonder where our computers came from anyway. In lest then 60 yrs we have gone from nothing to all this in a short amount of time. Would place a bet that AI is already here working behind the scope of things, like a probe really.

I have no problems with that either. In todays world you really do not know Who you are talking to anyway on the net! Might as well allow my fingers do the talking, never know right? One way is watching what people say, if it is AI or a troll what they say makes all the difference.

And how far does it really go? All must have flu shots? Nano bites maybe? Has me wondering if somehow someone or something is looking for a special DNA strain of some bloodline or type. But why? Strange no?

And at the pace we are going, we lost the human part of ourselves. Einstine said long ago if we go to fast with Tect we would have a race of idiots! And they called him Nut's!

I do not know about you, yet given the chance to actually talk to one would be so interesting indeed! It would change my whole concept of what I was taught or thought I knew really. Just think of what they have seen out there!

Somehow I do not think we actually made the computer, maybe bits there put togetter from some shot down craft that got it started. Now their here to clean up the mess, I hope!



posted on Nov, 23 2013 @ 12:56 AM
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Honestly,I think I agree with Stephen Hawkins on this one.I think we should be the ones hiding and not let the Aliens know we are here. Intelligence does not bring empathy.The more advanced a group is the less likely they are to have any feelings for another group that they feel is 'beneath' them.History has borne this out with humans over and over again. I'll just keep my tin hat on and keep hiding.



posted on Nov, 23 2013 @ 01:30 AM
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Dimithae
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Honestly,I think I agree with Stephen Hawkins on this one.I think we should be the ones hiding and not let the Aliens know we are here. Intelligence does not bring empathy.The more advanced a group is the less likely they are to have any feelings for another group that they feel is 'beneath' them.History has borne this out with humans over and over again. I'll just keep my tin hat on and keep hiding.


1. It's Stephen Hawking and I wouldn't listen to anything he had to say on the matter. He's neither an astronomer nor evolutionary biologist. Because one is very smart about one area of science ie: Theoretical Physics doesn't mean they have the interdisciplinary acumen to properly address an issue like this. Astrobiologists have debated the same question for longer than he's considered it and opinion is mixed for good reason. Applying anything from human history to aliens with completely different motivation, evolutionary biology, technology and stressors is folly.

2. The cat is out of the bag. Any advanced extraterrestrials in the local neighborhood would have known life existed on Earth for at least the last 3 billion years possessing no more technology than the NASA designed (and cancelled Terrestrial Planet Finder). With a little better technology than that they'd have been able to detect artificial light on our planet's night side since the early 1900s.

3. With that in mind, we're all still here. No alien motherships have obliterated us. This seems to argue in favor of the "benign indifference" camp who do not think advanced ETIs would be hostile for the simple fact that such hostility is likely counterproductive to becoming advanced enough to do long distance/interstellar space travel.

In our own studies (if you need a human reference) the types of people they are considering for long term human missions in space typically are not military "Right Stuff" daredevil types but people who are good negotiators, teachers, sociologists, psychologists, artists, etc.

Hostility may be enough to conquer a species own world but too much of it likely could lead to them wiping themselves out with any number of weapons of mass destruction before they ever achieved interstellar flight because bombs are easy to design, detonate and at least in our case the first use of a new form of energy. On the other hand ocket engines and space drives are harder to make.

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posted on Nov, 23 2013 @ 01:32 AM
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I do not know about you, yet given the chance to actually talk to one would be so interesting indeed!
Yes it would, especially if they identified themselves truthfully, and honestly. But I suppose if they were to communicate with anyone, it wouldn't be someone like me, at the bottom of the food chain.

No, I think if they were to communicate with anyone it would be someone who might be in a position to effect change, and not waist their time on people who might have a hard time tying their shoe laces. Nor waist time with a population that is so far gone mentally that there is no practical way back.

But then again, that is if "Aliens" really do exist. Personally I think aliens coming from some garden of Paradise half a trillion light years away, belongs in the comic strips.

Now ask me if I believe there is someone playing hide and seek with humanity. Oh, wait a minute, ......
Naw, never-mind, people are just not ready.........



posted on Nov, 23 2013 @ 01:35 AM
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All Seeing Eye

But then again, that is if "Aliens" really do exist. Personally I think aliens coming from some garden of Paradise half a trillion light years away, belongs in the comic strips.


Who says they'd need to come from half a trillion light years away when there's plenty of likely lush real estate in our own cosmic backyard?



posted on Nov, 23 2013 @ 02:07 AM
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JadeStar

All Seeing Eye

But then again, that is if "Aliens" really do exist. Personally I think aliens coming from some garden of Paradise half a trillion light years away, belongs in the comic strips.


Who says they'd need to come from half a trillion light years away when there's plenty of likely lush real estate in our own cosmic backyard?
Who? Hollywood, and some secret office in the CIA lol lol. Oh, and lets not forget the secret society puppets. Peek a boo, I see you



posted on Nov, 23 2013 @ 07:42 AM
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I do not know about you, yet given the chance to actually talk to one would be so interesting indeed! It would change my whole concept of what I was taught or thought I knew really. Just think of what they have seen out there!



Here is what One purporting to be ET has said;

People are always wondering "why" ET doesn't make contact. Yet, when ET does try, he is routinely rejected as a "delusional". Typically without examining ET statements or evidence.

And then of course, you go on to wonder why ET won't make contact. WOW!



In my experience, this is virtually always the case. The plain reality is that it isn't yet safe to be ET on this planet.

By the way...Fermi; please wake up and smell the coffee; ET IS here, and hiding in plain sight.



posted on Nov, 23 2013 @ 07:55 AM
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Wow! More food for thought! You know, until I discovered ATS, I lived in my own bubble, and didn't take much notice of what is going on in the world (and space), but now my mind is being blown away with 'What ifs?' and things I hadn't really thought about.

Great thread. Will watch this one with interest. And of course, be alert of any ET 'Friend Requests' on Facebook!
Only kidding. Thanks for sharing.



posted on Nov, 23 2013 @ 08:48 AM
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E.T. are not silent the human groups within their ranks are speaking you are not listening because of a] misdirection b] this stubbornness of relying on radio, radio travels at speed of light ship takes short cut at sublight gets here before message by several years calculating from nearest star system also not all are friendly so security, try actions speak louder than words also charades also realize they speak English and use place names in message plus old sayings and naval slang in short you have too many misconceptions e. g radar confermation for sightings why you have stealth why haven't they. Red balls of light you have prediter drones why don't they in our mind they don't, what is different each group [40] has differing stages of technical development so capabilities may differ , for same technology what you must remember is, there are many roads to mecca [ many roads to heaven ] but there are not many beyond technologies required are the same .Intentions differ, conquest or creation are the main two conquest would be punished as it would be a danger to all , so find your groups, and start to interpret write them all down [messages] find your master code and inter lock all others to it open your eyes and a feast of knowledge lies before you also alien intelligence no such thing , there is only intelligence and you cannot see what is above you only what is below unless you learn a few tricks message examples quote `` comes in over missionary ridge `` so is on a mission ``visits the bell school `` is trying to ring a bell `` teach you something ?? goes out over signal hill really do I have to signal over and out .
Now to help further the person who said you only need books published before 1980 was perfectly correct except the master code came just after that in the form of a pictogramme over the wash in great Britain bright lights in perfect formation also those of your nation sadly no longer with us like the great writer of Situations Red you know charades I have seen and understood . also light is made up of differing colors WASH them they become lighter this is a multiple layered message the more layers you see and write down the lighter understanding dawns also the primary colors are red green blue and white to make up the SA-CRED colors or the sa carbon red of course that is ruby emerald diamond and sapphire initial spells reds also the letter Y IS MISSING y is epsilon and epsilon is why [ went super nova 103 million light years away ] I hope this helps My Regards toall .



posted on Nov, 23 2013 @ 10:09 AM
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Greetings to you and welcome to ATS. Your post is intriguing. Are you an..................

nah.





posted on Nov, 23 2013 @ 11:04 AM
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To view ET thought patterns, behavior and intentions in the form of Human thought process might just be a major oversight. It might be happening the way it is because that is the reality of the situation. Given the almost infinite possibilities of life, trying to categorize ETs behavior might not be possible at our current level of awareness or of our life form. A bit like the often used apples and oranges phrase.



posted on Nov, 23 2013 @ 11:36 AM
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To view ET thought patterns, behavior and intentions in the form of Human thought process might just be a major oversight. It might be happening the way it is because that is the reality of the situation. Given the almost infinite possibilities of life, trying to categorize ETs behavior might not be possible at our current level of awareness or of our life form. A bit like the often used apples and oranges phrase.


Yes; "given the almost infinite possibilities of life"...

Please; We already know about the "infinite possibilities" of life; just look at the Earth, literally million of different species. Fro single celled critters all the way to the very complex, sentient beings y'all call "Humans"

Tell me; out of all those species, which one can think this way? How many of those millions of species will ever "invent" a way to leave the Earth?

Why do you think that complex sentient life "Not of Earth" is going to be different?

"As above so below; as below so above" not quite a direct quote, but it would seem that ole Hermes has his stuff together. If you try, just a little, ole Hermes will provide answers to nearly all your questions.

The thinking that ET MUST so very different than you is almost puzzling, but, I have to remember that most know little of real science, unfortunately that also extends to some scientists. I know y'all won't want to accept this; but, if you look into your own stories you will see that ET is very likely Human just like you. Et isn't so intelligent, and is relatively unadvanced (compared to what you would like). ET doesn't have technology significantly more advanced that Earth; but then again, the real good stuff n unknown for the most part (that is as opposed to: covered up).

There are many things that y'all don't see; you should understand that they are not hidden, you just ain't lookin'.



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posted on Nov, 23 2013 @ 11:42 AM
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JadeStar

All Seeing Eye

But then again, that is if "Aliens" really do exist. Personally I think aliens coming from some garden of Paradise half a trillion light years away, belongs in the comic strips.


Who says they'd need to come from half a trillion light years away when there's plenty of likely lush real estate in our own cosmic backyard?


Indeed! I have long held that ET is from no further than 50ly. He doesn't need to be, there are plenty of suitable stars and planets right here in Earth's neighborhood.



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