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The Tired Old Magician's Trick: Apocalyptic Thinking

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posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 06:48 PM
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I'm certainly not the first person to think about this subject;
here are just a couple quick links I grabbed on the subject:

How Apocalyptic Thinking Prevents Action

apocalyptic thinking in american culture

Apocalyptic Literature

Now here's why I'm posting this. Now as some of you have noticed,
I like writing about certain conspiracies myself, and pretty much
every time, someone replies who Is all hot to use my post as 'proof'
that some horrible apocalypse is coming.

Some folks are 100% convinced that certain mythological creations
of the human mind are going to destroy everything (Satan, etc.)
in the near future.

Some folks are 100% convinced that fleets of grey aliens are going
to destroy the world in the near future.

Some folks are 100% convinced that a 'spiritual shift' is going to
completely change the world (even if 'good', this event would
throw things into massive chaos --- it's also apocalyptic thinking).

Some folks are 100% convinced that 'good aliens' are going to
come rescue us from the evil ones (even if 'good', this event
would throw things into massive chaos --- it's also apocalyptic
thinking).

Some folks are 100% convinced that Obama is going to Nuke
America and round up people into concentration camps.

I could go on and on an on.

I think that many of you will agree with me.. that ANY system
of thought that strongly promotes an apocalyptic event is
a con job --- a magician's trick. In short, by going "look here!
look here! --- the whole world is going to blow up! So you
have to do what WE SAY to be ok! Of course endless thousands
of years could go by --- and the apocalypse won't happen...
because it was a sham in the first place.

The entire reason that apocalypses are designed as a magician's
trick, is to either directly control people (obey us and we will
rescue you! honest!), or as a form of pysop... namely the
future is predestined, so there is NO USE using your brain,
using your talents to create a better world ---- 'god' or 'the aliens'
or whomever has taken away your free will ... just sit back and
chug brews and remain useless to anyone besides yourself..
it's gonna happen whether you want it to or not! By even
arguing against an apocalypse you are being a TRAITOR
to the 'true faith'.... or both.

If this world is just an illusion.. if the 'afterlife' is all that
matters, and this world is just a giant conspiracy you
can't avoid ... as some powerful force is in control..
then you are a COMPLETELY de-powered victim;
you have been functionally neutralized.. your brain
has been turned to mush. You lose, we all lose, as
we all need each other to make a difference.

Do you know the most likely apocalypse that will happen?
That the world will slowly wind down.. from long term
abuse.. and the few powerful assholes who have been
squatting on resources they stole will have little compounds
of luxury.. and the rest of us will be screwed.

But that 'apocalypse' might take 200 years to come true..
its a slow motion 'non-apocalypse'.

And THAT 'slow motion non-apocalypse' will only happen
if we continue to believe in 'fake apocalypses' and
continue to give away all our power and keep our brains
and hearts switched into neutral.

Please don't promote this tired old trick.. please stop
being a victim. Please grow a set of daddy or mommy
parts. My eyes roll so constantly when I hear this nonstop
twaddle in all of it's dozens of forms.

So many people want to functionally be 'killed off' but
'transformed' into a beautiful new world.. without doing
one damn thing to make that beautiful new world a
reality. Don't be a parasite. Don't be a freeloader.
The 'end' is only going to happen if we all go asleep
at the wheel.. or an asteroid or something wipes us
out.

This is my 2 cents on the subject.

KPB




posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 06:57 PM
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ooo, i just realized something. the prophecy says the tribulation period and its associated trappings wouldn't start until the man of sin was revealed. and the man of sin would be revealed following a great falling away from the faith.

now i did some research on the whole topic of "sin" and found it was connected to an akkadian-babylonian god known as Sin, the moon god. when you said grey aliens, it just popped into my head that they might be Sin clones. et.al moon god clones.

/runs off to research this possibility



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 07:12 PM
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ooo, i just realized something. the prophecy says the tribulation period and its associated trappings wouldn't start until the man of sin was revealed. and the man of sin would be revealed following a great falling away from the faith.

now i did some research on the whole topic of "sin" and found it was connected to an akkadian-babylonian god known as Sin, the moon god. when you said grey aliens, it just popped into my head that they might be Sin clones. et.al moon god clones.

/runs off to research this possibility


I find your response extremely ironic and appropriate.

THANK YOU

KPB



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 07:18 PM
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Well put. And an important broad view point to be watching from. I find on various days after reading some articles you can feel overwhelmed if you don't balance your life out in many aspects. It does put us into a neutral stage in our life for example

" I'm going to get my community together to create a more sustainable independent community!"

then you read about the impending doom of the financial collapse or Fuki waste or how everything is being taken over more and more by corporate greed and after that your left thinking

" what's the point? there's bigger problems out there it'd take me years to get that going and by then it'd be a waste for nothing since we are all screwed anyways"

We are in the dead center of a psy-Op war in my minds for a long time that everything is in a constant slant against true real un bias information and that even on a one to one basis alot of people say things only to further there own agenda ignoring the well being of all.


We need a network and digital tools that would bring us together in all our interests that would enable us to actually make progress that would be safe from derailment. I don't know if that's possible but right now with what we have even though I spend a good deal on attempting to be well connected globally and locally I keep missing key events or groups of people that I know there are more out there of.



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 07:36 PM
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And some folk are sure they have a better--tho no less "mythological"--answer, but it's just their own online opinion and assumes that the modern idiot human is somehow superior to the philosophical brilliance of the early human. Build a pyramid then, smart guy.

You have no better idea than anyone else. That's fact. Doesn't mean I don't love ya' K-Bear, but I sincerely doubt you are the hyper-epitome of philosophy and knowledge that you sometimes imagine yourself to be.



edit on 22-11-2013 by The GUT because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 07:44 PM
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Apocalypse translated means the revealing of the truth.

I agree with you its all a lie, the whole lot of it.

It is just a question as to how far down into the psyche we can go to unscramble the mess of lies that has been placed in there for us.

I agree that it does do nothing to go to sleep at the wheel and wait for an "event" to change something.

But when I look around this gigantic illusion, I do not see any way that these problems that exist in the world can be put right by the same thinking that created them.

So there is no point in fighting for a new president to come along and save the day, so to speak because we have given our power away, too often, allowing others to do the work. And in its place will be another "ism" that will be just as bad as that that preceded it.

I watched a video the other day on trans-humanism, the guy who wrote the video was concerned about the idea that we become so reliant upon technology that we loose that "human" part.

So in actuality we have gotten ourselves into a fine mess.

And in reality, this mess can only be changed by the people in this world changing their thinking, and living in a society that truly cares about one's neighbor and shares everything without the feeling of lack.

It will be like turning a HUGE SHIP, so the changes that are made a slow and steady.

Science can only be used to assist us, if we become honest about it, and are prepared to let go of old theories as and when new ones come into play, it would need to be ethical.



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 07:49 PM
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I think there will be a reckoning sometime but it will probably be due to some sort of accidental technological malfunction than a supernatural event. As we become more and more dependent on computers to regulate the most important parts of our lives; if for some crazy reason the www. went down we'd all starve in the dark.

not with a bang but a whimper....
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posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 07:52 PM
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The GUT
And some folk are sure they have a better--tho no less "mythological"--answer, but it's just their own online opinion and assumes that the modern idiot human is somehow superior to the philosophical brilliance of the early human. Build a pyramid then, smart guy.

You have no better idea than anyone else. That's fact. Doesn't mean I don't love ya' K-Bear, but I sincerely doubt you are the hyper-epitome of philosophy and knowledge that you sometimes imagine yourself to be.



edit on 22-11-2013 by The GUT because: (no reason given)


I love you too Gutsey.

Honestly I don't think about myself much, except on ATS and in
private correspondence people are so convinced that I am this
or that thing.. It's rather corrupting.

When it's just me and the cats I don't exist at all. It doesn't
matter what I know or what I don't know. And every thought
I've ever had could be wrong; it is literally and honestly all
the same to me. I am not my thoughts.

KPB



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 07:57 PM
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You KNOW I love you, brudda. Don'tcha'? But philosophical dialogue is important dialogue and we must keep each other honest. You do. I do, too.



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 08:00 PM
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Your response was magnificent. I couldn't have changed one word to
make it better.

There is a way to change everything.. I've been writing about it since
the first day I got on ATS:

1) More of us need to become thinkers and leaders.
2) We need to purge the failed theories and symbols from ourselves.
3) We need to become paragons of self honesty.
4) We need to become paragons of expecting the same honesty in others.
5) We need to become truly loving and kind.
6) We need to spread our 'symbol-less' memes.

I don't know what percept of humans would need to do this, but perhaps
as low as 0.1 % would do the trick. And this would require no money or
time; not like people usually assume. There are a few gotchas.. but
nothing that couldn't be overcome. The reason that people don't do this?
They don't care enough to do so; or so it seems. None of this is rocket
science.

One corrupted fellow started (patient zero in terms of a virus outbreak)
all this.. all it takes is a pebble to start an avalanche... that assumes
one other pebble will start to roll I guess.. and another..

KPB



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 08:09 PM
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The GUT
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You KNOW I love you, brudda. Don'tcha'? But philosophical dialogue is important dialogue and we must keep each other honest. You do. I do, too.


That response I gave? The utmost, unvarnished, no-defense-mechanism
truth. I didn't take what you said personally! Don't you know me that
much yet?

Tell you what. This is for you Gutsey; and for every other last person
who will ever read these words:

"People always try to make another person who they want them to be;
whether friend, lover, or enemy. As I speak with such confidence,
others tend to be PASSIONATE about doing this to me.. and yes.. sometimes
I let someone turn me into a guru or a leader or a (fill in the blank)."

But ..

"I am none of those things.. and all of those things.. just like all of us; we
all have those potentials".

"For all I know, every word I've ever thought, observed, studied and analyzed
might be wrong. And that applies to all of us".

There you go Brudda. I love you so much. You are one of my favorites on the
rolls of the secret organization to which we belong!



By all means ---- keep me honest! I wouldn't have it any other way.

KPB



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 08:12 PM
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I think its possible that if too many have this mentality they're creating a magnet earth for bad events, and that TPTB magicians, using helpers, stacking spell association, and real technology as backup, utilize the energy density in regions that are fear prone to create disasters that they try to stick to many people.

Thoughts are real. Its mind over matter, especially on Higher Levels, we have training wheels on here but need to stop allowing our thoughts to be hijacked, AND forced to react everywhere we turn to their negative events and drama's.
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posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 08:20 PM
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Unity_99
I think its possible that if too many have this mentality they're creating a magnet earth for bad events, and that TPTB magicians, using helpers, stacking spell association, and real technology as backup, utilize the energy density in regions that are fear prone to create disasters that they try to stick to many people.

Thoughts are real. Its mind over matter, especially on Higher Levels, we have training wheels on here but need to stop allowing our thoughts to be hijacked, AND forced to react everywhere we turn to their negative events and drama's.
edit on 22-11-2013 by Unity_99 because: (no reason given)


You stated that pretty well.

Now, could there be a REAL apocalypse coming? Sure!
In fact the real apocalypse is probably the fact that
we are killing the ocean, which produces 40% of
the Earth's oxygen and some high percept directly
and indirectly of the Earth's Food. That and climate
change and the melting of subsurface methane
deposits and we could EASILY all be suffocated and
baked alive in under 1000 years. Maybe 500 years.

In fact if we don't take drastic actions --- that
future is close to 100% certain.

We don't need aliens and ancient god-memes to
destroy us. We don't even need nukes. We have
ourselves and we are quite capable all on our
own.

It's the Humanopocalypse.

Thanks for your thoughtful reply.

KPB



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 09:13 PM
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You're right, we don't need "aliens and ancient god-memes to destroy us"….

What we do need (and I've got research to show it), is a miracle to save us…


Here's the thing: What if you have to believe in miracles in order to get one?


Tell you what…I'll believe if you will



(Actually, I'm already 'believing' as hard as I can here - how 'bout a little company?)


It could work, ya know…I mean, considering all the negative 'stuff' humankind has managed to 'believe' into existence, why shouldn't we be able to conjure miracles as well?
(…or at least one great big one…)
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posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 09:26 PM
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KellyPrettyBear

Please grow a set of daddy or mommy
parts.



Are you suggesting martyrdom?
While we re busy sending positive thoughts out in the world and battling through another day, the environment and societies continue down the drain.

What is the way forward? The slow apocalypse? 200 more years of the worst oppression in the history of human kind?

Where's that damn meteor??



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 09:34 PM
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Unity_99

Thoughts are real. Its mind over matter, especially on Higher Levels, we have training wheels on here but need to stop allowing our thoughts to be hijacked, AND forced to react everywhere we turn to their negative events and drama's.


So after thousands of years of oppression, we re all the sudden going to turn it around? This type of wishful thinking is right next door to the apocalyptic approach.

We need global change, either way.



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 09:38 PM
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olaru12
I think there will be a reckoning sometime but it will probably be due to some sort of accidental technological malfunction


Nothing is by accident.



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 09:48 PM
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KellyPrettyBear

undo
ooo, i just realized something. the prophecy says the tribulation period and its associated trappings wouldn't start until the man of sin was revealed. and the man of sin would be revealed following a great falling away from the faith.

now i did some research on the whole topic of "sin" and found it was connected to an akkadian-babylonian god known as Sin, the moon god. when you said grey aliens, it just popped into my head that they might be Sin clones. et.al moon god clones.

/runs off to research this possibility


I find your response extremely ironic and appropriate.

THANK YOU

KPB


you should. cause the moon god predates the bible. nods slowly. in fact, i seem to recall a religion that uses as its symbol the crescent moon. oooo,

/runs off to research the connection between the moon god sin, and the religion of the crescent moon.



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 09:50 PM
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It's funny that the words "apocalyptic" or "apocalypse" have come to be synonymous with destruction and armageddon.

What happened to the technical definition: the revealing...?
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posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 10:06 PM
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only religion has apocalyptic messages?

meet the pet goat. not only does it have apocalyptic messages, it seems to embrace the idea of abolishing christianity and hinduism, and setting up in its place, islam. something appears to be missing. i wonder what that is.




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