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Textbook Tells Fourth Graders ‘White Voters’ Were Unlikely To Support Black President

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posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 01:54 PM
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Exactly. Great point.
In fact if people would just think about it, Obama would not have been elected if the majority of white people were racist.




posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 02:04 PM
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Eryiedes
Morning,

And the saga continues...
Now schools have offically jumped on the "if you don't like Obama, you're a racist" train.
This is one of the most dispicable attempts at race baiting I have seen since Oprah and this one is aimed completely at the kids!
Oprah's a bloated bag of wind but she mostly preaches to adults and couch potatoes.
This is an attack on the minds of the children in some dasterdly attempt to control the unpopularity of the socialist disaster that is the Obama presidency.
Parents should be out in the streets demanding that the school board be held accountable for this travesty of truth.
I am so disgusted by this blatant attempt to poison the minds of the youth that words can barely describe my outrage.




1- Including an example of the actual text for our consideration might have helped the discussion along. Just saying....

2- Travesty of truth? Nice hyperbole. And are you KIDDING me?


You really mean to tell me that you believe there are no voters out there, who did not or would not have voted for Obama based simply on his race? Like that's some fantasy the author / book publisher created? Over the last several years I've read far more opinions online about Obama than I ever cared to read. And many of them have been blatantly racist.

And even the ones that aren't blatantly racist have racism hiding just around the corner, IMO. Do you have any idea just how many times I have seen people online (including plenty here at ATS) use the phrase "Shuck and Jive Clown" (or some close variation of) to describe Obama? I can't give you an actual number (I wish to god I could), but I assure you, it's quite large.




The use of the phrase in modern American politics has generated controversy at times. In 2008, then New York attorney general Andrew Cuomo said of then Democratic Party candidate Barack Obama (who was running against Hillary Clinton, the candidate Cuomo supported): "You can't shuck and jive at a press conference." Cuomo received criticism from some for his use of the phrase, with Roland Martin of CNN stating that "'Shucking and jiving' have long been words used as a negative assessment of African Americans, along the lines of a 'foot shufflin’ Negro.'"[5] Similarly, on October 25, 2012, former Republican Party Vice Presidential candidate Sarah Palin generated controversy when she stated "President Obama's shuck and jive shtick with these Benghazi lies must end"




Wikipedia: Shuckin' and jivin'



The phrase itself originates in slavery. And to use a phrase that brings to mind slavery, when referencing the black president... or more accurately, comparing the black president to a slave is not blatantly racist?



According to the American Dictionary of Slang:



slaves sang and shouted gleefully during corn-shucking season, and this behavior, along with lying and teasing, became a part of the protective and evasive behavior normally adopted towards white people.




Oh, totally, no racism against the black president at all. That's imaginary. In fact, racism doesn't even exist any more.








I eagerly await your next thread "Hitler Actually Loved the Jews." I'm sure anyone capable of self-deceit on this level is probably just around the corner from Holocaust Denial.



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 02:05 PM
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redhorse
Read in context, the way that it is couched is generalized. It says "some", and then does not clarify the "some", (which you have clarified and which is true enough, there are such groups in this country). However, this text book goes blithely on tacitly lumping all whites with the "some". This is a propagandist, bigoted blurb that is either cunningly or completely idiotically placed in a child's textbook. It is deplorable.

Focusing on a few outlying groups with some disgusting ideology and implicating them with the ideology of an entire culture is disingenuous and misleading. Although, you yourself are clearly no stranger to this tactic. Sure, there are white supremacists out there, and most whites think they are violent, insane, stupid or some combination of the three. Flip side goes for black supremacists and blacks. Fringe groups are fringe groups and should remain in that context, which means not in a text book for children unless that text is specifically addressing radical ideologies.


If I could flag this post I would.
ATS is a much better place with people like you around.

-Peace-

edit on 22-11-2013 by Eryiedes because: Typo



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 02:07 PM
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Still mad you can't prove god exists I see?

-Peace-



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 02:09 PM
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Does the book also say that Black voters will vote for Obama no matter what?

Didn't think so.....



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 02:11 PM
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Is that the title of the thread or what your righteous self-indignation is telling you it should be?

-Peace-


edit on 22-11-2013 by Eryiedes because: Correction



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 02:13 PM
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iwilliam

Eryiedes
Morning,

And the saga continues...
Now schools have offically jumped on the "if you don't like Obama, you're a racist" train.
This is one of the most dispicable attempts at race baiting I have seen since Oprah and this one is aimed completely at the kids!
Oprah's a bloated bag of wind but she mostly preaches to adults and couch potatoes.
This is an attack on the minds of the children in some dasterdly attempt to control the unpopularity of the socialist disaster that is the Obama presidency.
Parents should be out in the streets demanding that the school board be held accountable for this travesty of truth.
I am so disgusted by this blatant attempt to poison the minds of the youth that words can barely describe my outrage.




1- Including an example of the actual text for our consideration might have helped the discussion along. Just saying....

2- Travesty of truth? Nice hyperbole. And are you KIDDING me?


You really mean to tell me that you believe there are no voters out there, who did not or would not have voted for Obama based simply on his race? Like that's some fantasy the author / book publisher created? Over the last several years I've read far more opinions online about Obama than I ever cared to read. And many of them have been blatantly racist.

And even the ones that aren't blatantly racist have racism hiding just around the corner, IMO. Do you have any idea just how many times I have seen people online (including plenty here at ATS) use the phrase "Shuck and Jive Clown" (or some close variation of) to describe Obama? I can't give you an actual number (I wish to god I could), but I assure you, it's quite large.




The use of the phrase in modern American politics has generated controversy at times. In 2008, then New York attorney general Andrew Cuomo said of then Democratic Party candidate Barack Obama (who was running against Hillary Clinton, the candidate Cuomo supported): "You can't shuck and jive at a press conference." Cuomo received criticism from some for his use of the phrase, with Roland Martin of CNN stating that "'Shucking and jiving' have long been words used as a negative assessment of African Americans, along the lines of a 'foot shufflin’ Negro.'"[5] Similarly, on October 25, 2012, former Republican Party Vice Presidential candidate Sarah Palin generated controversy when she stated "President Obama's shuck and jive shtick with these Benghazi lies must end"




Wikipedia: Shuckin' and jivin'



The phrase itself originates in slavery. And to use a phrase that brings to mind slavery, when referencing the black president... or more accurately, comparing the black president to a slave is not blatantly racist?



According to the American Dictionary of Slang:



slaves sang and shouted gleefully during corn-shucking season, and this behavior, along with lying and teasing, became a part of the protective and evasive behavior normally adopted towards white people.




Oh, totally, no racism against the black president at all. That's imaginary. In fact, racism doesn't even exist any more.








I eagerly await your next thread "Hitler Actually Loved the Jews." I'm sure anyone capable of self-deceit on this level is probably just around the corner from Holocaust Denial.


I typed "Shuck and Jive Clown" into ATS search and received exactly two results. Neither of which were relevant.

Chalk it up as another loss in your life failures, blaming race all along the way
edit on 22-11-2013 by jctcle because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 02:20 PM
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I don't believe anyone has denied that racism exists. I believe the majority of all people are racist to some degree. No one wants to admit that because it isn't PC.

I think the point is that people are sick and tired of being called racist because they disagree with a man's politics. Yes there are some dumb people who still judge a man by his skin color. But don't lump a whole race in to it with them.



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 02:24 PM
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Common Core Fundamentals:

Lesson 1:
When in doubt, just play race card...



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 02:26 PM
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Or when you want to hide that there is racism in such event, use the "you are playing race card".



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 02:28 PM
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Well too bad that this card has been played so much that people don't even believe its veracity anymore so when someone calls racism for when there is actually a reason to, no one will take it seriously. But you know go ahead and just keep defending this reprehensible character assassination tactic, you're a real credit to your party.
edit on 22-11-2013 by Krazysh0t because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 02:29 PM
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It did take a lot of white votes to get him elected, that is just fact. I bet if a lot of the "whites" that voted for him once or twice could go back in time knowing what state our country would be with him as POTUS then the words on that page would ring true and he never would have been elected in the first place. If only so many white people didn't vote for him, there wouldn't be racial propaganda in our children's textbooks, we wouldn't have the mess that is Obamacare, most likely Benghazi would have never happened.... I could go on all day... the more I hear people whine about perceived racism based on a general dislike of policy, the more that black on white crime gets censored from the news when white on black crime is being polarized, the more policies that get pushed on us that we don't want on the idea that we are in general idiots.... the more I actually want to prove them true and become racist... and that is exactly what they want.

The only good thing I can say is that Obama is a proponent for same sex marriage, if he wasn't why is he married to Patrick Ewing? And why is Patrick Ewing always wearing dresses?



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 02:32 PM
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buster2010
It comes as a shock to you that there many people here in the states that won't vote for a black candidate?


If 'many' white voters wouldn't vote for a black candidate, then Obama wouldn't have been elected. It took the white vote to push him into the presidency.

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posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 02:38 PM
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Racism......no one will take it seriously.



It will be perfect world when that happens, until then, racism will exist. People may try to hide to as much as possible or try to diffuse it by saying "you are playing race card"..

But you are right, pendulum will swing both ways until the string breaks.



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 02:42 PM
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Eryiedes
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Is that the title of the thread or what your righteous self-indignation is telling you it should be?

-Peace-


I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you are saying. WHAT "righteous indignation"? What about my statement is not true? Please provide numbers. Start with "% of Black voters who voted for Obama." Now compare that to "% of White voters who voted for Obama".

Interesting figures, no? There's nothing "righteous' or "indignant" about pointing out these very simple facts that put the lie to the textbook, which claims Whites won't vote for Obama. Well, they did, of course, which is what got him elected, because the White voter block is still the largest there is. They DID vote for him, yet the textbook claims they did not. That's a lie. And the textbook also failed to point out, by omission, that Blacks overwhelmingly voted for him (It's in the 90% category). Why do Blacks get a pass here?

So just looking at the percentages, the conclusion is that Blacks are far more racist than Whites.

It's just that you don't like it when this is pointed out. It's not politically correct, and people like you become "righteously indignant" when such obviousness is pointed out.



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 02:42 PM
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You misinterpreted what I wrote. What won't be taken seriously, is the claim of racism not the racism itself. I already don't believe Obama or Holder whenever they mention that word and it is starting to extend to other black people when they are talking about politics and that word comes up. It's a great way to end a good debate though (as well as piss off the person accused)



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 02:45 PM
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schuyler
So just looking at the percentages, the conclusion is that Blacks are far more racist than Whites.


Whoa now! We all know according to the Democrats that black people can't be racist. Let's not lose our minds and start saying crazy things like black people are just as capable (or moreso) of being racist as white people.



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 02:49 PM
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...the claim of racism...


How do you know any "claim" of racism does not have a racist root in it? were you in their shoes? Maybe they sees it in a different perspective?



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 02:53 PM
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So that makes it ok to yell racism whenever someone disagrees with you? All because you don't know if there is an underlying root of racism to the disagreement. By that same (ridiculous) logic, I should be permitted to call anyone who disagrees with me an idiot. I don't know for a FACT that the person is or isn't an idiot, but the underlying cause of his disagreement may stem from his idiocy, so I should call him an idiot just to be sure.



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 02:56 PM
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that Blacks overwhelmingly voted for him (It's in the 90% category). Why do Blacks get a pass here? .. the conclusion is that Blacks are far more racist than Whites.


Black Politicians have been around since late1800s... and no black person became president (until this 50% one aka "black"), does that mean all white people were racist because they only voted for white politicians all this time?




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