Ex-CIA Operative: Military Thwarted Obama’s Plans To Nuke/EMP America This Fall!

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posted on Nov, 24 2013 @ 06:40 PM
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I cant help but think....... where are all these ousted top brass officials now? Why are they not on Alex Jones? Why do they not come forward and talk?

If this entire story about nukes is true..... then they are surely dead men walking.... the only sane thing left for them to do is to blow the goddamn whistle.

Where the hell are they?




posted on Nov, 24 2013 @ 06:44 PM
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It's pretty easy to misinterpret waveforms. Check out this article from a thread that I started on the subject.

Early on the morning of Saturday 16 August 1997, there was a small seismic event in the Kara Sea, about 100 kilometres from the nuclear test site on the far northern island of Novaya Zemlya now used by Russia for nuclear weapons research (Fig. 1). Within days, seismologists located the event in an area where it could only have been an earthquake. Yet at the end of August, spokesmen for the US State and Defense departments described the event as having "explosive characteristics", and in late September, officials of other US agencies were still characterizing it as "unresolved" (George Ullrich, Defense Special Weapons Agency), or "lending itself to alternative interpretations" (Bob Bell, National Security Council). These statements suggested that the seismic signals might have been generated, not by an earthquake, but by a nuclear test. Underground nuclear explosions were carried out by the Soviet Union at the Novaya Zemlya test site from 1964 to 1990, but Russia and many other countries signed the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty (CTBT) in September 1996, thus making a commitment not to carry out nuclear explosive tests for any purpose. To a seismologist, the evidence is straightforward: the event took place several tens of kilometres offshore to the southeast of Novaya Zemlya, in an area where water depths are around 400 metres. Nuclear explosive testing is not credible in such an ocean environment unless there is other evidence, such as signals from hydroacoustic or radionuclide detectors, or the presence of a vast and complicated drilling operation. The event must therefore have been an earthquake.

Source


Waveforms for a Soviet-era nuclear explosion at the Novaya Zemlya test site (top: 24 October 1990, 1,048 km) and for the 16 August event (bottom; 1,127 km), recorded at the same station, KEV, in northern Finland.



Looks more like the second one (EQ) to me...



posted on Nov, 24 2013 @ 07:02 PM
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great pics lil two thumbs up, even though my knuckles are dragon.

and can u do one or two overlay of random eqs and the event?

i wold be forever grateful


and @ zaph sorry.aboit the stevie jab u know i love ya both

i just cant help but question everything

.just ask my ex's

lol off to bed soon here in the great cold state of oklahoma

wherr the cowboys camr home with a bear head trophy this weekend

so really where did the bomb get dropped?



posted on Nov, 24 2013 @ 07:36 PM
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I guess I can try, but part of why I asked Zaph the questions I did is I couldn't find anything that matched that quake except nuke readings sooo... Let me look some more I guess.

Lil
ETA: Actually did you see the post right above you? That's almost spot on, I don't think I'd find better so
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posted on Nov, 24 2013 @ 09:00 PM
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annnnd, now the website that hosted this story is down.



posted on Nov, 24 2013 @ 10:36 PM
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LIST OF NAMES — Military Purge High Officers — Terrifying



Many of these below have spotless records, 25 and up years service, many medals and honors such as



Commanding Generals fired:



General John R. Allen-U.S. Marines Commander International Security Assistance Force [ISAF] (Nov 2012)



Colonel James Christmas-U.S. Marines Commander 22nd Marine Expeditionary Unit & Commander Special-Purpose Marine Air-Ground Task Force Crisis Response Unit (July 2013)
Major General Peter Fuller-U.S. Army Commander in Afghanistan (May 2011)
Major General Charles M.M. Gurganus-U.S. Marine Corps Regional Commander of SW and I Marine Expeditionary Force in Afghanistan (Oct 2013)
General Carter F. Ham-U.S. Army African Command (Oct 2013)
Lieutenant General David H. Huntoon (3 Star), Jr.-U.S. Army 58th Superintendent of the US Military Academy at West Point, NY (2013)
Command Sergeant Major Don B Jordan-U.S. Army 143rd Expeditionary Sustainment Command (suspended Oct 2013)
General James Mattis-U.S. Marines Chief of CentCom (May 2013)
Colonel Daren Margolin-U.S. Marine in charge of Quantico’s Security Battalion (Oct 2013)
General Stanley McChrystal-U.S. Army Commander Afghanistan (June 2010)
General David D. McKiernan-U.S. Army Commander Afghanistan (2009)
General David Petraeus-Director of CIA from September 2011 to November 2012 & U.S. Army Commander International Security Assistance Force [ISAF] and Commander U.S. Forces Afghanistan [USFOR-A] (Nov 2012)
Brigadier General Bryan Roberts-U.S. Army Commander 2nd Brigade (May 2013)
Major General Gregg A. Sturdevant-U.S. Marine Corps Director of Strategic Planning and Policy for the U.S. Pacific Command & Commander of Aviation Wing at Camp Bastion, Afghanistan (Sept 2013)
Colonel Eric Tilley-U.S. Army Commander of Garrison Japan (Nov 2013)
Brigadier General Bryan Wampler-U.S. Army Commanding General of 143rd Expeditionary Sustainment Command of the 1st Theater Sustainment Command [TSC] (suspended Oct 2013)
Read more at investmentwatchblog.com...



Commanding Admirals fired:

Rear Admiral Charles Gaouette-U.S. Navy Commander John C. Stennis Carrier Strike Group Three (Oct 2012)
Vice Admiral Tim Giardina(3 Star, demoted to 2 Star)-U.S. Navy Deputy Commander of the US Strategic Command, Commander of the Submarine Group Trident, Submarine Group 9 and Submarine Group 10 (Oct 2013)
Read more at investmentwatchblog.com...



Naval Officers fired: (All in 2011)



Captain David Geisler-U.S. Navy Commander Task Force 53 in Bahrain (Oct 2011)
Commander Laredo Bell-U.S. Navy Commander Naval Support Activity Saratoga Springs, NY (Aug 2011)
Lieutenant Commander Kurt Boenisch-Executive Officer amphibious transport dock Ponce (Apr 2011)
Commander Nathan Borchers-U.S. Navy Commander destroyer Stout (Mar 2011)
Commander Robert Brown-U.S. Navy Commander Beachmaster Unit 2 Fort Story, VA (Aug 2011)
Commander Andrew Crowe-Executive Officer Navy Region Center Singapore (Apr 2011)
Captain Robert Gamberg-Executive Officer carrier Dwight D. Eisenhower (Jun 2011)
Captain Rex Guinn-U.S. Navy Commander Navy Legal Service office Japan (Feb 2011)
Commander Kevin Harms- U.S. Navy Commander Strike Fighter Squadron 137 aboard the aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln (Mar 2011)
Lieutenant Commander Martin Holguin-U.S. Navy Commander mine countermeasures Fearless (Oct 2011)
Captain Owen Honors-U.S. Navy Commander aircraft carrier USS Enterprise (Jan 2011)
Captain Donald Hornbeck-U.S. Navy Commander Destroyer Squadron 1 San Diego (Apr 2011)
Rear Admiral Ron Horton-U.S. Navy Commander Logistics Group, Western Pacific (Mar 2011)
Commander Etta Jones-U.S. Navy Commander amphibious transport dock Ponce (Apr 2011)
Commander Ralph Jones-Executive Officer amphibious transport dock Green Bay (Jul 2011)
Commander Jonathan Jackson-U.S. Navy Commander Electronic Attack Squadron 134, deployed aboard carrier Carl Vinson (Dec 2011)
Captain Eric Merrill-U.S. Navy Commander submarine Emory S. Land (Jul 2011)
Captain William Mosk-U.S. Navy Commander Naval Station Rota, U.S. Navy Commander Naval Activities Spain (Apr 2011)
Commander Timothy Murphy-U.S. Navy Commander Electronic Attack Squadron 129 at Naval Air Station Whidbey Island, WA (Apr 2011)
Commander Joseph Nosse-U.S. Navy Commander ballistic-missile submarine Kentucky (Oct 2011)
Commander Mark Olson-U.S. Navy Commander destroyer The Sullivans FL (Sep 2011)
Commander John Pethel-Executive Officer amphibious transport dock New York (Dec 2011)
Commander Karl Pugh-U.S. Navy Commander Electronic Attack Squadron 141 Whidbey Island, WA (Jul 2011)
Commander Jason Strength-U.S. Navy Commander of Navy Recruiting District Nashville, TN (Jul 2011)
Captain Greg Thomas-U.S. Navy Commander Norfolk Naval Shipyard (May 2011)
Commander Mike Varney-U.S. Navy Commander attack submarine Connecticut (Jun 2011)
Commander Jay Wylie-U.S. Navy Commander destroyer Momsen (Apr 2011)
Read more at investmentwatchblog.com...


The list goes on and on does this not constitute a serious and through routing of the military in the U.S?

What nation can not question these actions and not look into the real cause of these events?

What nation can not stand behind its highly decorated Commanders and Generals ?

What nation can say this is normal and not to worry about it , move along nothing to see here?

This is not normal in any sense of the word , this is a coup' of your military.

Now go on to tell me there is nothing fishy in Denmark and the events spoken of in this thread can't have been possible.

The writer of this blog goes on to say "I believe only 2 Generals were fired under Bush’s 2 terms total. There are currently 48 4-Star Generals."

investmentwatchblog.com...

See the link for more military personal who have been ousted.
edit on 24-11-2013 by Pinkorchid because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 24 2013 @ 11:01 PM
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THIS HAS BE CONFIRMED... THANK GOD IT STILL LIVES.
MANY HAVE BEEN MURDERED IN THE LAST 12 YEARS TRYING TO GET THE TRUTH OUT ABOUT A RUN AWAY GOVERNMENT AND WORLD BANKERS.

GOOGLE: D.G."CHIP' TATUM TESTIMONE ... HE DIED THINKING THAT IF THIS WERE IN THE PUBLIC IT WOULD SAVE HIS LIFE... IT DID NOT.. MANY OTHERS HAVE BEEN SILENCED.

DO NOT LET IT BE IN VAIN.



posted on Nov, 24 2013 @ 11:07 PM
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Pinkorchid
The list goes on and on does this not constitute a serious and through routing of the military in the U.S?


Have you even bothered to check on those people? Or did you just blindly cut and paste from someone else?

Why did you even mention General Carter F. Ham - he has had same job since 2011, so why is he on your list?

let us look at a few of them...

"Col. James Christmas was relieved of command by Maj. Gen. Raymond Fox, the commander of II Marine Expeditionary Force, out of Camp Lejeune, N.C., after the general lost confidence in Christmas’ ability."

"General John R. Allen On February 10, 2013, Allen relinquished command of the International Security Assistance Force and U.S. Forces Afghanistan (USFOR-A) to General Dunford.[20] On February 19, 2013, U.S. President Obama accepted Allen's request to retire from the military as his wife fell seriously ill.[2] on April 29, 2013, Allen's official retirement ceremony was held in United States Naval Academy"

So he retired since his wife was seriously ill..

"Major General Peter Fuller Friday General John Allen, the commander of ISAF forces in Afghanistan, fired him"

He was fired by the commander of ISAF forces in Afghanistan...

"Major General Charles M.M. Gurganus The Marine Corps stated Gurganus "bore final accountability for the lives and equipment under his charge," and he "made an error in judgment when conducting his risk assessment of the enemy's capabilities and intentions." Sturdevant, the USMC said, "did not adequately assess the force protection situation".[21] Both men will retire honorably and with full benefits"

He stuffed up badly, losing six percent of the USMC's inventory of Harrier attack jets..

Lieutenant General David Holmes Huntoon
"While at West Point, Huntoon was found to have misused his aide and other staff to conduct personal business. He was given a written reprimand and allowed to retire with no further action."

He was using defence staff to run his own business...

So just why do you think Obama was involved in this?
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posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 12:40 AM
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It seems that your deliberately not looking at the big picture.

If you believe that the information that comes from the same source that is ousting these military personal , would give you the correct reasons for their leaving , then the illusion is complete for you.



posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 12:49 AM
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Pinkorchid
It seems that your deliberately not looking at the big picture.


You are the one posting false information here, why?


If you believe that the information that comes from the same source


As opposed to a blog that quotes WND for a source.... and posts the nonsense that birth certificates are traded on the stock exchange...

and posts lies like

Subpoena Granted for Obama’s Occidental College Records


This is the site you use as a valid source!!



posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 12:58 AM
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Continue with your perception , it is where you are comfortable.

I have no wish it change your mind , I do not need you to agree or believe anything that you are adverse to.

This information will find resonance with those that perhaps perceive a different reality that you do.


Only the future will tell both of us the true intent of what has transpired.

I don't need to convince you and you don't need to convince me.
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posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 01:19 AM
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Thanks for posting some actual facts in this fiasco of a claim. I swear, people that take their reality from facebook and twitter crap are causing big problems in this society. I don't blame F or T, they are just places for anyone to post anything, like you can do most anywhere on the Internet. It is the gullible, no-research, love-to-cause-sensation part of the public that are the real problem.



posted on Nov, 25 2013 @ 02:41 AM
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WASHINGTON – After one of them called for the “forced resignations” of President Obama and congressional leaders in response to multiple grievances, including the alleged political purge of hundreds of senior military officers, two retired U.S. generals are creating a citizens’ commission to scrutinize Obama administration actions on national security and economic issues.



“America’s Provisional Leadership Council” will look at major concerns, as outlined by Army Gen. Paul E. Vallely and Air Force Brig. Gen. Charles Jones, in an eight-point paper titled “The Americans Project.”




Vallely told WND he sees The Americans Project as a “citizens’ commission” of prominent Americans to provide advice to legislative and executive branches of government.
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More at link below:-

www.wnd.com...



posted on Dec, 1 2013 @ 12:16 PM
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this thread is just too funny

no proof and people go off on a rant



posted on Dec, 1 2013 @ 12:46 PM
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Ah, good old World Nut Daily... still nuttier than a tree full of squirrels.



posted on Dec, 3 2013 @ 05:00 AM
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Zaphod58
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We're still seeing claims of the South Carolina nuke? When will that finally die out?

This is the seismograph off South Carolina on the 8th of October. Notice how it's nice and long and drawn out? That's a standard earthquake signature. You have P waves and S waves, which are seen in every earthquake.

This shows the difference between a nuclear explosion, and an earthquake. Notice how the nuclear explosion is a short sharp hit, compared to a long drawn out blast. Here is a comparison between an Indian nuclear test, and an earthquake. They look nothing alike, and can't be confused .



Out of curiosity were you there at that seismograph to see those results come out?
No?
Then how do you know they are the real results, and not fabricated?

Either you are here spreading disinformation or you are naive.


And I'm not advocating that a nuke was detonated.



posted on Dec, 3 2013 @ 07:34 AM
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So every seismograph reading that picked this up, everywhere in the world, faked it? No one noticed that they had different readings than that seismograph?




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