When you see this video and you thought that moderate muslims are those who are against violence.. you will be surprised.
Stoning to death is so "late centuries" and do not sit well in modern western society ( and not anywhere as its against human rights ).. this is
what we think but it seems that even moderate muslims feels its ok... after all. Lying to infidels is ok.. we should remember that !
In Norway there have been a rape wave and according to local muslims " every girl or a woman who doesnt wear hijab is a whore " this has led to
some Norwegian girls to dye their hair to black and never walk alone.. Once again there is a goverment who seems to be powerless against crimes which
have arrived with immigration and loose immigration laws.
culture crisis in Norway few years back and it has not been improved
Its my understanding that all of the monotheistic religions believe that these books are the "words of God". This belief then leads to the view that
the followers (as mere humans) dare not challenge the "commands of God".
Hence all of the harsh punishments (including death) dished out in the Old Testament and Koran should therefore be adhered to exactly as "God has
To challenge these instructions is considered blasphemy...
So, in order to break away from the insanity that is OT/Koranic law, one has to disavow the religion altogether or imply that "God" is wrong, which
many people are not willing to do.
Hence the quagmire that is religion.
Edit*, I wasnt able to view the videos. I was commenting on the general violence/punishment found in these books. If they are somehow justifying
rape, I have no idea where this belief stems from although religion has traditionally been very degrading towards women.
edit on 21-11-2013 by gladtobehere because: wording
Islam does not belong in the Western world. I've had several friends throughout Norway (Østfold, Oslo areas) who were attacked and landed in the
hospital for being ethnic Norwegians. It's not going to get any better either. More and more areas in Oslo are becoming Islamic cess pools as ethnic
Norwegians flee as the crime (like theft, rape and beatings) rise.
You have to understand Norway to realize why so many Norwegians are raising an eyebrow towards the huge influx of non-western (i.e. Muslim)
Norway opened it's borders to mass immigration in 1987. That's not too long ago, however in such a short time frame, crime has risen far beyond what
Norway and Norwegians ever imagined. Norway has of course had it's murderers, thieves and the like, but major crimes were far and few between. When
something did happen, it was national news for weeks if not months! You could leave your doors unlocked when going on vacation and find everything
safe and sound upon your returnal home.
Now? We have gangs that will roam neighborhoods breaking and entering even when families are asleep. And these gangs aren't comprised of ethnic
Norwegians. Women are afraid to go out on the town alone at night because they're "dogs" in the eyes of Islamic men.
I've personally been attacked for no other reason than having an American flag on my backpack. My friend has been attacked (robbed) at knife point.
A friend of mine in Oslo was raped on her way home from another friends house by a Muslim.
I've been asked by a "moderate" Muslim if I "liked the gift of 9/11" that they (the Muslims) gave us. Don't kid yourselves, the only thing that's
"moderate" about these people are the fact that they're not likely to pick up a bomb and blow themselves up.
I know a muslim and he tells me that he doesn't think like that.
So you're a liar. Why all the propaganda??????
Stalin would tell you that he's a nice guy too. So are you really going to stick with that obtuse "logic"?
Firstly, not all religions act this way. They may have at one point in time, but that's hundreds of years ago. Whereas Islam is just as vile and
sick today as it's always been. There has been no "advancement" within Islam.
Secondly, you are part of the problem. I just love the buzzwords you sling about, like "Islamophobe", "propaganda", despite the fact that
you have a recorded meeting BETWEEN MUSLIMS! Talk about burying your head in the sand!
I agree with you Auricom. You see muslims on the news everyday, either raping, beating, shooting or murdering people. This has been going on for
decades, but does anyone do anything about it? No! It is like muslims can do whatever they want and get away with it. If any other religion committed
any of the atrocities that muslims do on a daily basis, the UN and many other militaries would go to war with that religion. I remember when David
Koresh started a new religion in Wako, Texas. He had many followers and they were peaceful people. The United States Government sent ATF agents and
other military people in to kill those people, just because they had bought weapons to protect themselves. So, if the government will kill the David
Koresh Followers for having weapons, why won't they do something about these muslims who go around murdering people? Why won't they stop the muslims
that blow themselves and other people up with bombs? It is like all the countries in the world are scared of muslims. Don't get me wrong, I have met
some muslims who seem okay. But something has to be done about the muslims who think that if they blow themselves up along with people who aren't
muslim, they will go to heaven and have 72 virgins waiting on them! You really have to be crazy to think that if you murder people, you will be
rewarded with 72 virgins!
What are they going to do with the virgins? Have sex with them in Heaven? Sex is lust of the flesh. If you are still lusting after flesh when you die,
you might not be in Heaven. You just might be in Hell.
You can thank political correctness for our willingless to address the problem. For decades, we've been told that to question anyone in any form of
minority group is politically incorrect and racist. Thus, we don't dare speak out in fear that we'll be labled with one of the many lables
Our thoughts and opinions are being funneled into a narrow thought process that's easy to control. Anyone that deviates from that thought pattern is
automatically assumed to be a "low life racist" or "an ignorant redneck", even though they speak the truth.
As I've said many times before, the truth isn't always politically correct. But even though people know this, they're too afraid to acknowledge
it. You can see by the responses in this thread (and the other thread with the same topic linked by another member) that despite all the truth
posted, they bury their heads within a fairy tale and spout their politically correct rhetoric.
I'm sick of it and I will address this issue at every chance I get. For every idiot out there who thinks that Islam isn't a threat, there's ten
Muslims ready to prove you otherwise. I'll gladly take anyone on a trip to Oslo where they can experience the fun of being beaten for not being a
Muslim first hand.
Sturla Nøstvik (36) was attacked at random by young Muslim immigrants and held hostage for nearly an hour.
The attack took place in Grønland, a neighborhood in Oslo that has been turned into a Muslim immigrant Ghetto. Muslim immigrants have committed fifty
violent rapes in Oslo this year. There have also been over 350 muggings/beatings, many of them extremely violent, just in the immigrant ghetto area of
Grønland alone this year.
This is truly sad.. I must say if my lord and savior asked of such things i would comply. Bound by faith and the teaching of centuries old each Muslim
has a changed perception of right and wrong. These perceptions are brought on by elders before them whom have similar perceptions brought on by
elders before them. I cannot raise my finger and accuse a single Muslim and say they have hatred in their hearts, but a stern belief in their own
Perhaps one day the true God will return and we all will understand.
But you can fix poor grammar and ignorance, so until then I welcome you to refrain from posting.
Here Norwegian Muslims want beheadings for failing to observe fasting in Islamic schools in Norway. (There are no Islamic schools in Norway yet, but
he's pushing for some. More breeding grounds for extremists, or "regular Muslims" as I call them.)
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