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The fish that we eat belong to nobody...If Im hungry I take from the land. If a neighbour is hungry I give from the land.... We are all born and die with nothing, but with so much. Nobody has the right to tell anyone what, where or how to feed themselves from the land we walk on....We have got way too big for our boots, thinking we own the earth and its systems. We are just a spec of sand on it, control none of it and wont even leave our mark on it..... eat to survive, you dont need to pay to do it.
reply to post by Kangaruex4Ewe
The fines are serious but so is what they did. Having a little veggie garden in the back of a large fenced yard is one thing. Turning your residential lot into a small urban farm is quite another.
Frankly, I'll turn to code enforcement personally if someone on my street does something like a few of those examples did. They have the right to eat but I also have the right to my property value for all I've put into this home and land for my quality of life. They have no right to damage that for their own personal interests.
It's a very serious issue of two competing priorities and the whole reason we need code departments in the first place. Some people just give no thought or care, in any way, to those around them or what their actions may do to directly impact others.
reply to post by Em2013
Wow.. and that is precisely why code enforcement is an absolute requirement in modern cities or anywhere people are living close together. Likewise, the fish and game laws this guy broke by fishing wherever, whenever and however the mood struck him.
No, you do NOT have the right to do whatever you like with your land when it adjoins others and your actions have direct material impact on those other people as well.
If I move in next to you and say..MY passion is skateboarding. Should I be able to build a half pipe taller than my single story home and across a good portion of my yard to let you listen to the skaters run up and down, day and night? If someone can convert a residential property into a garden, why not my skate park? It's NO different in principle of using my land for what I choose with total disregard to how it damages the quality of life to others.
As someone else noted on this specific story though, the guy doesn't seem to have given a hoot about fish stocks or anything else. He just figures he's SO special, all the fish of Gallatin County are his personal meals, just waiting for him to snatch them up and cook them. However many he can grab......and I hope the man grabs himself some serious penalty for the attitude. I'd rather like to HAVE some fish left for future generations. In a nation as populous as ours, that CAN be destroyed within a generation....just as the Buffalo once were by the millions and in a VERY short period of time.
Yeah, You should be able to build a skate ramp. It's not different than kids running up and down the side yard making lots of noise playing football in the yard.
I lived in Staten Island New York when I was a kid, and yes -- I had a miniramp in my side yard and two custom built 10 and 16 foot grind rails.
Why shouldn't I have been able to do that on my property. A temporary skate ramp isn't changing your property value. Growing my entire back yard with plants like tomatoes and grapes doesn't either.
P.S. A dude fishing to eat isn't going to empty the ocean. Scarcity is caused by the ones with the commercial licenses.
reply to post by gladtobehere
This video made my day.
I personally believe he has the right to do what he wants as long as it's not injuring any other people. If he wants to catch fish and eat them so be it. He has a right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Try and let that sink in... I know you might think, "He could be disrupting the precious Eco-chain in that environment." One person fishing really can't be doing as much damage as the corporations are. If you take that line of thinking, you must realize it's bigger than Nino Brown, or in this case Terteltge(I think I spelled that right)
reply to post by Helious
But a guy from Manhattan fishing in Montana most likely has money and can afford to feed himself.
I think he's looking for notoriety rather than making a serious effort at reforming the system.
Last I checked there was no "right to keep and bear fishing rods" listed in the Constitution.
But if you had asked my father before he passed if fishing were necessary in his pursuit of happiness he would have enthusiastically responded "YES!". I'm pretty sure he had a bunch of Tshirts and hats to bear witness to that sentiment.
There is no such thing as natural rights. Only delusional right wingers.
Rights are social conventions. Like laws.
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed