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When the judge noted that he had pleaded not guilty, Terteltge countered, "I never plead, animals plead, sounds like baaaa, oink oink."
redoubt
reply to post by gladtobehere
There was a similar encounter on the issue in the state where I live some years back. The final decision was based on that the state spends tax dollars and fees acquired from various licencing to help maintain various stocks of fish in public lakes. This therefore gave the state the right to require fees and permits to use them.
crazyewok
reply to post by Nephalim
If it was fedral land then the goverment.
Everyone has the right to own land even the goverment, and one should obey the rules of the land owner.
I would be pissed if someone came on MY land and hunted or fished on it without my permission.
Nephalim
Since he didnt get that consideration from you, you dont get it from me either. Now, please remove the image or present your permission to use.
crazyewok
Nephalim
Since he didnt get that consideration from you, you dont get it from me either. Now, please remove the image or present your permission to use.
Take that up with the mods.
Plus I live in the UK, so I say to US law.
Nephalim
Well he lives in the woods, on American property and he says to US law.
crazyewok
Nephalim
Well he lives in the woods, on American property and he says to US law.
And thats the key on American property.
Fact is would you like it if someone broke into your backyard to pick fruit or fish ect?
Nephalim
And you have that image up sir which is also American property. You're using private property right now without permission. Take the image down please.
crazyewok
reply to post by Nephalim
If it was fedral land then the goverment.
Everyone has the right to own land even the goverment, and one should obey the rules of the land owner.
I would be pissed if someone came on MY land and hunted or fished on it without my permission.
Nephalim
crazyewok
Nephalim
Well he lives in the woods, on American property and he says to US law.
And thats the key on American property.
Fact is would you like it if someone broke into your backyard to pick fruit or fish ect?
And you have that image up sir which is also American property. You're using private property right now without permission. Take the image down please.
bigfatfurrytexan
In the US, the federal land belongs to The People. It is Ours, not theirs.
I am not familiar with UK law, but instead of federal land, would it be "The Crown" that owns it? If so, then it would make sense the confusion you have here. We don't have a crown. Different system.
bigfatfurrytexan
In the US, the federal land belongs to The People. It is Ours, not theirs.
I am not familiar with UK law, but instead of federal land, would it be "The Crown" that owns it? If so, then it would make sense the confusion you have here. We don't have a crown. Different system.
That man was fishing on Our land, not the government (and not his). I think to resolve this we would need to introduce a framework by which a person would have a viable claim to the fish they caught. Essentially, that they were not making commercial use, or making waste. Not sure how that would happen...but to me that is the essence of what should happen.
Since it belongs to The People, and it is Ours, then it is also part his. I am unsure why he would not have a right to utilize his own stuff.
Its tricky, to be sure. But the core of American ideals is what is at stake here. That we are free, given rights by our creator. The Government is continuing the concept of "The Kings fish and game" with their licensing antics.
OneManArmy
Yes that is correct, I think Prince Charles pretty much owns Cornwall.
Vortiki
People have the right to eat. Period. No grey area.
People fish without licenses, so what? You think people are going to eat up all the fish? Some fish lay thousands of eggs a year. That's per fish. Get real.
The people who claim "leave some fish for us tax payers" you're an idiot, grow up. You go to the store, buy pre-filleted fish(that isn't even from this country) and put it in the oven for twenty minutes.
This guy probably catches, scales, guts, cooks his own food over an open fire.
Everyone has the right to eat, and no one has the right to tell someone they can't catch fish out of nature to eat and survive.