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Specifically I am talking about all cameras placed to view comet ISON as it entered perihelion, undertook perhelion, and departed from perihelion.
No images at all from the cameras set up to capture ISON in perihelion by satellites positioned at the closest proximity.
That is very very true. That underlines my point. These large well established space agencies with immense resources to draw upon, able to aim a space vehicle with pinpoint accuracy on a target on other space bodies can't apparently set up not even one camera to take an image of arguably the most closely watched comet ever! That is simply unbelievable.
It is not a case of "NASA bashing" at all. It is not an unprovoked assault. It is entirely provoked.
a bit like the belief that traffic lights just turn off and on regardless of the feedback from sensors attached to them
It is time to deliver or get off the field and return yourself to the bleachers.
Here is the link from page 13 where I previously proved you wrong, responding to your claims, for which you still don't have a response.
the flares about 24 hours before ISON dived into the sun were class M flares?
the sun shooting off several large flares
How often do these M class eruptions take place
How often do these M class eruptions take place in bursts of 3?
A giant cloud of solar material, called a coronal mass ejection or CME, is also seen in the images bursting off the bottom of the sun and heading out into space.
530 2304 2308 2311 G15 5 XRA 1-8A B7.1 2.0E-04
Nothing in you link backs up your claims. Number of sunspots in the summer of 2013, about 65, that is about on average about one every day and a half. That makes it look like the number of flares seen as ISON approached to be a very high number.
All the flares took place before the time of the first row of data on the table you provided, which means that your table has nothing to do with what happened.
In addition your link on solar radio flux does not indicate number or size of solar flares,
You could explain how you define normal activity of the sun. Provide some links that describe normal activity of the sun.
It is an excellent indicator of overall solar activity levels ...
It has been suggested that 10.7 cm solar flux could interfere with point-to-point terrestrial communications.
Nobody claimed ISON would interfere with terrestrial communications.
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Whaaaaaaaat? Do you mind linking to where Tallone makes that point?
I believe he's referring to "Point 3" listed from the vid.
This means we have a couple of things to check as we try to understand the lack of any visible trail in the SDO images. Did Comet ISON have a strange composition? By strange it would have to have very little oxygen. Many molecules that are found in comets have oxygen atoms in them. Water, carbon dioxide, and most rocks have oxygen in them. Comet ISON appeared normal as it moved through the solar system. It may have been running out of ice as it moved into perihelion, but the dust particles should also have sublimated and contributed oxygen to the corona as they flew past.
In the meantime, I suggest you keep digging.
Its all a far cry from a week ago when (and I never tire of quoting Electric Universer's words back at them):
"Worldwide Power Disruptions", "X flares", "its going to increase radiation on earth", earthquakes, "the resulting photon flare up will engulf the Earth", "the photon flash will be so great that it will instantly turn everything on the Earth’s surface into light", CME's, pole shifts, "earth changes", "elevated electron levels", "can cause fault slippage", "an extinction level event", "another Carrington event", "economic collapse", changes in "vibrations", blackouts, increase in crime, looting and pillaging, emitting X rays, causing the sun to go dim, affects on our magnetic field, energized changes on Earth, "super storms", "radio disruption", "dangerous", TPTB censorship and coverups, TPTB false flags, influencing weather, people will behave differently, "a major major super huge thing", "this is exactly like armageddon", and "...there is absolutely nothing anyone can do about it except panic."
I am sorry, but it seems you do not understand basic physics.
The suns eruptions do not have to be directed directly at the comet.
The static electricity response was simply an example.
You will be aware by now how the fragments of ISON are spreading out, and that the trajectories of Earth and of those fragments are due to intersect. In fact from the rate and scale of dispersion already observable the Earth will almost definitely be travelling through the debris field. People should / need to be aware of this.
Is NASA suggesting that ISON was metallic in nature? No. But that is a reasonable assumption to make considering they have just ditched the DST model in their postulate above!!! If you consider the implications of what they are suggesting here.
Perhaps the corona was not as dense as we assumed. The reactions that cause oxygen ions need fast electrons. Each step in the ion chain takes a little time. If the density of the fast electrons is smaller each step takes a little longer. At the same time the oxygen ions are moving away from the orbit of the comet. As the new oxygen ions get further away from the comet their density goes down and they become more difficult to see. This will require us to go look more carefully at those places in the frames where the comet material has been the longest. Maybe a faint signal can be detected.
Very big metallic comet fragments spreading through space is not good for Earth. You will be aware by now how the fragments of ISON are spreading out, and that the trajectories of Earth and of those fragments are due to intersect. In fact from the rate and scale of dispersion already observable the Earth will almost definitely be travelling through the debris field. People should / need to be aware of this.
One need only review the extraordinary spectacle provided by Comet Holmes 17P to see how deep the crisis in cometology reaches. In October of 2007, Holmes suddenly and unexpectedly brightened by a factor of a million. In less then 24 hours, it grew from a small 17th magnitude comet to a magnitude of 2.5, so large it was easily visible to the naked eye on Earth. Holmes' coma continued expanding until by mid-November of '07 it had become the largest object in the solar system, vastly larger than the Sun. The coma's diameter had grown from 28 thousand kilometers to 7 million km.
At the time of Holmes' extraordinary display, the comet was actually moving away from the Sun, and therefore cooling. Among the common sense questions posed by the enigma: how does such a gravitationally minuscule body hold in place a uniform, spherical coma 7 million kilometers in diameter? If Holmes' flare-up was the result of a collapse or explosion (as some scientists speculated) why was the ejected material not asymmetrical (as one would anticipate from an explosion)? Why did the claimed explosion not produce a variety of fragmentary sizes instead of the extremely fine dust that was actually observed? What explosive event could have caused the comet to luminate for MONTHS, rather than the SECONDS typical of an explosion's luminescence? Why did the comet's gaseous, dusty, spherical cloud persist for months, rather than dispersing quickly away from the comet?
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The size of ISON, in my opinion, is totally insufficient to produce any serious threat to large areas of earth. Im sure it is possible for a few fragments to go boom in atmo similar to the recent Russian meteors but I don't see how it could physically produce any city killers etc, worrying about that kind of thing is a waste of time or a grab for youtube views. Even from an EU perspective, those materials would have had sufficient time to balance their charges making large reactions in the atmosphere similar to the comet over Russia unlikely.
The worst thing you can do is talk about doom related predictions and bring in stuff from BPearthwatch and other sites that are not only purely speculative, with known track records of failure, but are deliberately sensational in their claims.
You guys have taken this thread to quite a few pages since I went on vacation, seems like the arguments have not advanced all that much though.edit on 2-12-2013 by vind21 because: (no reason given)edit on 2-12-2013 by vind21 because: (no reason given)