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reply to post by yampa
well, let me turn that around on ya for a moment.
what do you think of the george zimmerman case?
after i get an answer from you i'll explain why i wasn't shocked by the op, although i was concerned by the op. see what happens if there's rioting or general violence in the streets between people of different racial groups? cops are people too, and some of them are also racists. so some would shoot blacks because of their own racism against blacks and some would shoot whites because of their own racism against whites. and when the dust cleared, there'd be just lots of suffering for no good reason other than the knock out game.
reply to post by undo
You're wasting your breath with this one,undo.Even if we were allowed to post the most horrifically graphic evidence of white citizens murdered by black citizens,as i have perfectly good unbiased factual reported links to this effect-it will avail us of nothing.This member is determined to see even facts and police photographs as an agenda from us evil white racists to promote bias against all blacks in general.Sometimes one just have to walk away.Anyway,that's me outa here for now,its a nice day out-and there's a rock in my garden i wish to go and have an intelligent conversation with, about this matter.More productive.
These cases are not 100% racially motivated.
So easy to fire up white fears of big blackie.
oh my gosh, this guy is something else
reply to post by bigman88
I do not have the solution to parents who are the bad seed themselves,sown by either their own parents,or by socio-economical issues,but i do know that one thing that will provide a better "harvest" is for parents,for adults in general such as teachers, for instance,can make a huge difference in how children perceive the world,and how they act on the consequences of that perception.If a child,say a black child, is taught from elementary school level:
"Yes,there has been a lot of injustice and some very vile and evil deeds perpetrated against black people in the past-but if we are not tied by an iron chain to the past,and we all are responsible for our actions,for dealing with anger in a non-violent way,a better day for All will eventually be the result.If you strive to educate yourself,if you keep being decent and hardworking,YOU WILL reap the benefits,as will the world around you.Blaming and hating ,even murder and violent acts against those who hurt your ancestors,while satisfying at that moment-helps nothing and nobody"
As children spend a lot of time at school,it is imperative that non-victim and empowering attitudes are taught from a very early age.This goes for the parents too-if they cannot overcome the bitterness brought on by past injustice and reprehensible treatment and their current life circumstances by realising that resentment and simmering anger is understandable,and imo it IS understandable-then still nothing CHANGES.Then they,and their children perpetuate a culture of resentful victimhood that erupts into violence against innocent people,who are ironically in No position to better the lifes of the attackers,or their parents.
That is the rotten seed at the heart of the matter,imo.Another thing i have noticed,is that a lot of the parents of these black youths,like many whites alike,are not even employed.Some has never worked a day in their lives,living of wellfare from the government-they Do have time to spend with their children,and as for the children of single parents,or where both parents work out of necessity,i have read of so many accounts since i have first been online few years ago-there are parents who does accomplish this.Raising decent kids.
Here i wish to add another example-this time of the exact opposite end of the spectrum,the filthy rich.Again,in this group drug use is rampant among children of very wealthy,they may not go around punching or injuring people of other races,but because of being so out of touch with the rest of the population,they will extremely seldomly have any compassion or respect for the "peasant" classes.The notion is reinforced in them,from an early age,that they are superior,untouchable and unmoved by the plight of Joe/Jill average-take the lovely Walmart clan,for instance,and their attitude to the workers who help them accumulate their wealth.
It boils down to an innocent child shaped by the attitudes of the parents,and to a far lesser extent by socio-economic circumstances.In my own country there are many very poor black people,who has never indictrinated their children that the white man is the cause of all there trouble,or at least: that despite the white man,there is no excuse to just wail +sometimes become violent because of it-in fact i myself had a dear black friend that has never blamed the ANC for her financial difficulties,she had the ability to see that Whoever is the government of the day,even the black ANC government-the crux of the matter is:The fatcats on top feels nada for the average person.And she raises her children to be decent,sensible folks who realise that one is never so at the mercy of your government that you cannot rise above it through education,hard work and staying away from friends who indulge in criminal activity,even of the pettiest variety,never mind violent or murder.
So yes,the rotten seeds are attitudes of parents ,failure of the school system in instilling a non- victim mentality +instead focusing on self-empowerment,despite whatever your background +circumstances.
Personal case: i had no family,tons of baggage from a horrible past,and absolute penniless circumstances.So i took menial jobs,all i could find,sometimes working 2 jobs to put a roof over my oldest daughter's head-yet i made full use of the time i Did have with her,to install the proper values of decency and the importance of not hurting other people's life,but concentrating on your own life,and living that the best way you can.I am NO better than any woman living in the projects,and if you had to delve into my threads and posting history,you would notive that aside from poverty,a very abusive childhood on the wrong side of the tracks,almost crippling mental and psychological baggage from my past +resultant seething anger inside for decades-i managed to raise a fine and well-adjusted young woman.Because i realised that to teach her to hate other people+the world in general because they had a better deal,though understandable-WILLGET HER NOWHERE.People are going to go on being mega wealthy,or even just much better off.People are going to carry on being filthy rich white,black,asian,colored,indian,and and not care not a stuff for whatever sad and disadvantafed past,or present oneself had,or have.You have to try and deal as best you can,regardless of any and everone else on the planet-and their attitudes,their own baggage and agendas.
So yes the rotten fruit is the input from parents,teachers,and everone involved with raising children in their formative years and teens,producing scenarios like the one this thread is based on.
Bill Cosby's observations:
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oh my gosh, this guy is something else
reply to post by Raxoxane
what bothered me the most was, when it was clear that black empowerment meant to disenfranchise the minority. now in the usa, the minorities are empowered, not disempowered and whites are considered priviledged and therefore don't qualify for government assistance as easily , if at all,. in both cases, white people are the losers. for example, in south africa, the law is that until the 80% of blacks who are unemployed, get jobs, no new white people will be hired. but blacks are the majority in south africa. if we did that to minorities in this country, well, you can just imagine how that would turn out. the usa takes care of their own, provided they are minorities. overseas, it's the exact opposite. if you're a minority, you're less likely to be able to survive, especially if you're white. zimbabwe was a human rights disaster as well.
here's a few more things i noticed
american companies are being attacked constantly, while globalist companies aare being artificially propped up by our wages.
the democrats are trying to install communism in this country, and if they manage to do so, white people will not only be austracized, they willl be slaughtered by the millions. that is standard fare for communist governments. to their discredit, the republicans have taken the fascist stand against communism, making it two sides of the same ugly downward trend into poverty and oblivion.
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reply to post by undo
Living in South Africa,I can vouch for the truth of what you said.And as I always say,famine does not respect skin color.I would go on to say,that these are not bands of pitiful starving black men who perpetrate these horrific crimes.The murders of these farmers are NOT post-Apocalypse style desperate all-out fight for-your-very-survival raids!!! If that were the case,the farmers would either be robbed of the food in their homes,and some goods to sell,like cellphones,jewellery,etc and left without physical harm,or merely quickly had their throats cuts.
But no,what these poor(and usually elderl)y farmers+their wives suffer before death would make the movies Hostel and Saw look like Disney-it actually damages the human psyche to read of the horrific tortures these poor old people are subject too-that is HATRED plain and simple.Sometimes Nothing is even removed from the home of the murdered,notably NO FOOD even-so much for starving hordes-replace "starving" with filled with demonic hatred,and I would fully agree with that point you raised,but this does not even stop at farmers being murdered,here is another little gem from my country:
Those who want some more factual information are welcome to pm me for a link to a site called The Truth about South Africa-mods will remove it if I post here,warning,pictures include a picture of an infant,a baby,wrapped in newspaper and set alight.
You do not burn a baby because you are hungry,you do not burn a lil baby baecause of a long dead political system-That type of act comes from sheer demonic hatred.Nurtured by our very leaders: