Addressed to Revelation Generation by NewAgeMan aka Bob (my real name, Robert).
I know that God is about love, and I love you guys and don't want to see anyone of you, RevGen included, go to hell, or in hell (which would mean I
was in there with you) ever.
I would take the hit myself on everyone's behalf if needed, but I don't have what it takes to pay the price and we'd all be screwed.
So it makes me think however, of Jesus' love and what he did, which makes me realize that RevGen cannot claim a monopoly on it while extending it very
conditionally to everyone even me included (the irony!) like the tip of a sword to the neck of others under threat of hell.
How would he know if I've repented anyway, which I have and still do because isn't repenting as a change of mind and heart not an ongoing process in
our journey towards God?
The breadth and depth of the love and power of the cross of Jesus Christ is immense.
As C.S. Lewis has pointed out everyone will have every opportunity to come clean and learn about love, and some, maybe even many might bawk at it, and
reject the love of God in favor of some insanity or another, so there's no avoiding the implications of heaven and hell, but hell is a hell of one's
own making, and it's locked from the inside, so it's the close-hearted and the close-minded
who probably have the most to be concerned about,
and they're just the one's who would never see it, never be willing to submit and subject themselves to THE truth including as much of God, and His
love, as the truth about themselves and their deepest motivations and drivers..
God knows our innermost heart of hearts through and through however, so there's no running away, unless there's nothing else that can be done, and
then God will let people run away if they must, but the power of forgiveness is great, very great, and God's love goes far, very far.
Jesus took the hit, but if you aren't aware of that, or were raised atheist or something, then at some level it must still apply, where the love is
extended and available, one way or another at the end of the day.
RevGen, I love God.
I love the Gospel, love Jesus and his character, teaching and action and I think I might understand a little more about it even that you do.
I understand how it renders our ignorance and pride and vanity as absurd and ridiculous, I get it. I know how
the weight of glory
crushes the pride of man, and I've carried that weight to a degree
and shed those tears, not just for me, but also for others who may be hurting and in need of a little love and recognition.
You, RevelationGeneration, I don't think however, are equipped to be sharing the Gospel of Jesus Christ, until you learn how to love more, even as he
You think it's up to you, can't be me because I'm just some "newage" hippy universalist um antichrist, to save othes on behalf of Jesus Christ? Are
Well you suck at it.
Jesus spoke of you and your type, very clearly and distinctly. And it's self evident, to everyone it would seem but you.
It's YOU, not the people you think you can save, and if that were the case what are you doing here, who ought to be afraid, of hell, and you would
have been well served to read that little allegory by Lewis, it could have saved you and still might yet.
I am not condemning you and it's not for me to judge, but I know a person's heart, yes even reading between the lines. You don't love me at all,
you're full of #.
How can you give from something that you do not have, yourself? Hypocrite! Until you learn to love, do not speak of the love of God in relative terms
to hell, it's a disgrace and an outrage actually, and very very serious stuff that you're into with this hell business of yours.
It's not the Gospel of Love, and by that I don't mean (if you would just read that story "The Great Divorce" you'd understand) that free will choices
needn't be made or that the gift doesn't have a supreme value, or that some might reject the love of God and in so doing choose some sort of hell for
themselves in spite of every effort to bring them around.
But for God's sake man don't, as the so-called representative, by using hell as a ah hem cough, tool of salvation, force people away from the love of
God in Jesus Christ (which is free), by making a heartless, doctrinal, terrorist offer, it's sick, and very very sad, and it makes Jesus extremely
And no, this isn't because I'm offended by the Gospel, but by your Biblioatry, and "dry" Christianity. I think you may be sick, I'm serious, sick and
even rather dark
or wicked and so you'd be best to just leave all this hell business quite enough alone, I'm serious, it's very dangerous what
you are involving yourself in, for you, not anyone else, but you.
And by the time you confront it, I would like to be merrily skipping so far down the road that you'll never see me even if I make it to heaven,
because to be honest, I don't think I'd want to have much to do with you.
I love the atheists and the sinner by far more than you. I would never want to reign with them in hell however, but rather serve in heaven, perhaps by
helping people so that they never have to deal with hell at all, because I love people, it's who I really am, especially as a Christian.
It's a Gospel of love and freedom
, including the freedom to freely love, without constraint
. How dare you! And you call me
edit on 23-11-2013 by NewAgeMan because: (no reason given)