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How Does Going to Hell Look Like?

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posted on Nov, 21 2013 @ 03:02 AM
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BO XIAN
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Sorry, Bro. . . . I just don't buy it.

Innocent children before the age of conscious accountability for their choices and actions, imho, are not in hell.

That would be totally out of character for God. God cannot be untrue to His character.

I've also never heard of any visitations to hell wherein they observed children who were there before the age of accountability.

Older children, yes.

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I understand.


I too hope and pray it is not true. Something like this makes my blood boil. '
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The high priestess did not get into specifics but if memory serves me.... there are Satanic couples on this planet who secretly give birth to children who are then baptized to Satan and after preforming some type of rituals they sacrifice the child as a child of Satan. Also these sick people who want to go to hell want their children with them.

I know it is disgusting.

BTW: Have you ever heard of children under the age of twelve/thirteen who have solid black eyes? They knock on your door and ask to come into your home...for various reasons i.e. to use the bathroom, use the telephone or for a drink of water?
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posted on Nov, 21 2013 @ 03:34 AM
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FlowThruSpace
We all know about going to Heaven and how it is supposed to happen. Not many people talk about Hell, however. If you do believe in literal Hell, how does one know one is going to Hell after death? I am talking about the transition to Hell, from the moment of death to the beginning of the punishment.


did you want a personal account ..

or did you want just discussion of the matter



posted on Nov, 21 2013 @ 06:31 AM
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Yes. I've heard of the BEK [Black Eyed Kids] phenomena.

I believe it's real to at least some extent.

I find it interesting that folks have to AGREE with them in some detail--give them food; let them in the house; give them a ride; to enable the horrific results.

Yeah, parents like that have to be well over the line below human in any conventional sense of the word.

I just know God's character.

And I believe the many narratives of Heavenly visitations wherein folks see thousands of aborted babies being reared and taught God's ways as Heavenly resident children. THAT'S God's character.

LUBB



posted on Nov, 21 2013 @ 06:44 AM
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Thx thx.

Will have to review the videos later. I'm aware of the jelly fish and I think the next one. Not sure about the 3rd.

Much appreciated. They are quite believable narratives.

I had my own trip to hell as a late teen. It was different than others' trips that I've read. I've written about it hereon. My trip was rather starkly solitary except for satan on his throne at the far end of a St Peter's like vast throne room. Ever so often, satan would look up toward me and mock me and declare that I was his now and never escaping. I just kept thinking "JESUS!" "JESUS!" over and over constantly. That was the most I could do.

I was compelled forward as though on roller skates or some such. Did not see anyone around me but felt my guardian angel(s) and The Lord behind me. I was paralyzed in my bed. I couldn't move or make a sound. I had JUST LAIN DOWN. No more than seconds of a time lapse occurred from getting in bed and laying my head down before this instant, fast, black "elevator down" that freaked me out. I had the sense that I could stop it. So, I stopped it and got out of bed and looked out the window etc. to be sure I was in normal reality.

I had the sense that The Lord wanted me to go through the experience, for some reason. So I got back in bed and laid my head down. INSTANTLY I was back in the black elevator down. And then thrust along the side aisle sort of thing like at St Peters. The colors of the marble floors and walls were almost a black green. For decades, afterward, I'd refuse clothing of green or any green decoration, if I could avoid it.

At some point, the objective was evidently achieved and I was instantly back in my bed. No elevator up. IT REALLY SHOOK ME UP.

I WAS INFINITELY RELIEVED That the Name of Jesus was sufficient in that horrific context. I think that was part of the objective. Probably the other was to impress on me the reality of hell.

The hollow, empty, deadly, tortured awfulness of the place--even with that kind of "stage setting" was beyond words. I didn't see any suffering other entities or humans. But it was still clearly a place of suffering, evil and death.



posted on Nov, 21 2013 @ 11:28 AM
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Somehow, that sounds like a juvenile's understanding of what meeting absolute evil would be like. Frankly, Satan sounds as though he isn't even worth that throne. But what more can you expect from a teenage trip?



posted on Nov, 21 2013 @ 11:54 AM
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I would also like to add that, the point of Christ's death was to act as the "ultimate sacrifice" to redeem humanity and forgive us of our sins.
The Bible doesn't actually teach that.

So you are basing the future of your eternal soul on something that has the same amount of authority as an urban legend.

I think believing in that uncritically was what landed me in Hell the first time that I died.
Since then I have studied the Bible and realize that Jesus was here to encourage us to live righteous lives.
The "redemption" that Jesus' death gave us was from the old way of (supposed) salvation, which was so much ceremony and the keeping of made up rules that don't actually make you a better person or help anyone.

As to the OP's question: What does going to hell look like?, it looks like falling through a rather dark narrow hole.
This goes on for quite a while, since it is a long ways down.
Eventually you end up in a great big expanse somewhere in the center of the Earth.
The analogy I use to describe it is the movie, The Truman Show, where there was this smaller version of the world all under a great big dome.
There is a dim ambient light to the place, with no obvious source, such as any points of light.
No sky, of course, and rather than a normal horizon, it is the far edges of the dome coming down to meet a comparatively flat 'ground' which is a series of low undulating hills covered with grass, and sprinkled with a sparse growth of trees, as if it was made to make people seem a bit 'normal' in an otherwise completely alien environment.
It isn't a clean joint between the dome and the ground but jagged cliffs with what looked like battlements on top, as if to protect something on the other side, which might be an entrance into other such domed areas, for all I know.
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posted on Nov, 21 2013 @ 01:20 PM
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A well-thought reply. Much appreciated.



posted on Nov, 21 2013 @ 01:20 PM
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BO XIAN
reply to post by NewAgeMan
 


Thx thx.

Will have to review the videos later. I'm aware of the jelly fish and I think the next one. Not sure about the 3rd.

Much appreciated. They are quite believable narratives.

I had my own trip to hell as a late teen. It was different than others' trips that I've read. I've written about it hereon. My trip was rather starkly solitary except for satan on his throne at the far end of a St Peter's like vast throne room. Ever so often, satan would look up toward me and mock me and declare that I was his now and never escaping. I just kept thinking "JESUS!" "JESUS!" over and over constantly. That was the most I could do.

I was compelled forward as though on roller skates or some such. Did not see anyone around me but felt my guardian angel(s) and The Lord behind me. I was paralyzed in my bed. I couldn't move or make a sound. I had JUST LAIN DOWN. No more than seconds of a time lapse occurred from getting in bed and laying my head down before this instant, fast, black "elevator down" that freaked me out. I had the sense that I could stop it. So, I stopped it and got out of bed and looked out the window etc. to be sure I was in normal reality.

I had the sense that The Lord wanted me to go through the experience, for some reason. So I got back in bed and laid my head down. INSTANTLY I was back in the black elevator down. And then thrust along the side aisle sort of thing like at St Peters. The colors of the marble floors and walls were almost a black green. For decades, afterward, I'd refuse clothing of green or any green decoration, if I could avoid it.

At some point, the objective was evidently achieved and I was instantly back in my bed. No elevator up. IT REALLY SHOOK ME UP.

I WAS INFINITELY RELIEVED That the Name of Jesus was sufficient in that horrific context. I think that was part of the objective. Probably the other was to impress on me the reality of hell.

The hollow, empty, deadly, tortured awfulness of the place--even with that kind of "stage setting" was beyond words. I didn't see any suffering other entities or humans. But it was still clearly a place of suffering, evil and death.



Interesting story...

I'd be less than surprised to find out that you, and others who are quite convinced of the 'reality' of these places (in terms of created loci - with Blatty characters), did not come from a family situation in youth that was less than normal (structure-wise)...or somewhere further along the scale...

Without posters offering such information, a quick poll would Indicate what the mind can make up, and what impression these nightmares and family situations have on later life...
No-one in any standing in life is exempt from this...

I'd posit also, that, all the accoutrements (of activity) that are associated with these 'real' dreams...rebellion in youth, illicit substances (as rebellion), broken homes (children, youth - trying to make sense of the carnage of normality) etc...are in the experience of these people...and the experience is not confined to families of no-god upbringing...there being on some level, a brand of modicum to live life by anyway...

My experiences of going to hell(s) and being confronted by evil personages turned quickly to melted chocolate, every time...no-one will see my youboob videos on the interwebz (or anyone elses whose experiences mirror mine)...but then I had a quite stable upbringing.

Å99



posted on Nov, 21 2013 @ 01:47 PM
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The Bible suggests that only about 1 in 40 (50 in 2000) is going to Heaven.

If you want to know about Hell I would say to read the gospel accounts in the New Testament as Jesus taught about Hell more than anyone else in the entire Bible.

It is true that it's a place of eternal torment that you wouldn't even wish for your worst enemies.

To escape Hell when we die and have everlasting life we must have a personal relationship with the God of the universe, Jesus Christ.

Jesus makes the exclusive claim and say's only those who repent and believe in Him will go to heaven.

John 14:6 - "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

Read more: www.gotquestions.org...

You will get many other replies to your questions but this is the Gospel truth.
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posted on Nov, 21 2013 @ 01:54 PM
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RevelationGeneration
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The Bible suggests that only about 1 in 40 (50 in 2000) is going to Heaven.

If you want to know about Hell I would say to read the gospel accounts in the New Testament as Jesus taught about Hell more than anyone else in the entire Bible.

It is true that it's a place of eternal torment that you wouldn't even wish for your worst enemies.

To escape Hell when we die and have everlasting life we must have a personal relationship with the God of the universe, Jesus Christ.

Jesus makes the exclusive claim and say's only those who repent and believe in Him will go to heaven.

John 14:6 - "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

Read more: www.gotquestions.org...

You will get many other replies to your questions but this is the Gospel truth.
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Luckily, it's (as you say) just a 'suggestion'...and flippantly using one cosmology, one prophet, one saving device and one book to circularly back up a claim is not only disingenuous, but, extremely naiive...

Å99



posted on Nov, 21 2013 @ 03:14 PM
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The "problem" with hell is that from the right POV, love and freedom rule, so it's also the resolution to the problem, which is why, once you "grok" that you are free to laugh about it, if it were ever the least concern, and there's the joy that contains no fear and the heaven that holds no hell, right now in our present moment experience.



“No, there is no escape. There is no heaven with a little of hell in it - no place to retain this or that of the devil in our hearts or our pockets. Out Satan must go, every hair and feather.”

― George MacDonald



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posted on Nov, 21 2013 @ 03:23 PM
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FlowThruSpace
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A well-thought reply. Much appreciated.


FlowThruSpace

NP....your question was well worth asking.Some folks are so obsessed with a" hell" they forget to live.The bottom line is what the great songwriter Paul Simon said.."a man only hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest".

That seems to be the general consensus on hell.There are so many people "that believe IN IT" that they create it.As a man thinks so he is.It's worth to not that the majority (if not all) hell believers are the ones that believe they aren't gong there.It seems very easy for them to pronounce a judgement for someone else.

They callously condemn others to the worst fate there is and blame them for "choosing" it as if God approves with them tacitly yet the scriptures clearly state no man can come to God unless he draws(in Greek it mean drags) them.They act as if God has to acquiesce to mans "will" and has no choice but to sentence them to the eternal punishment of hell that God is the creator of...absurdity of the highest order of insanity.

It makes zero sense.If the hell stories were true those that have gone to hell went unjustly.There was no resurrection (which the majority of hell believers say they believe in) or righteous judgment ...they were just tossed in the pit.If the eternal punishment of hell is true it is eternal.There's no returning.Judgment has been passed the sentenced has been made.God doesn't change his mind or make mistakes.There are no previews or pre hells or paroles.The event horizon is the end there is no escape from it..hell is HELL not a scared straight facility.The myriad of contradictions of that doctrine should be evidence enough however it isn't for hell believers.

If the eternal punishment of hell is true then Yahoshua completely failed.He doesn't hold the keys of hell and death(metaphor).The gates of hell WILL prevail against mankind(the church).It is not "done" (the salvation of all mankind) as he said with his last words on the cross. His name Yahoshua (God is salvation) is a lie ..he could only save some...etc etc etc...

If there is a hell and God is just everybody is going to the eternal punishment of hell bar none.A religious prayer or even living what some think is a "good" life isn't going to make any difference.It's all for naught.God must punish the guilty(the imperfects).So...God help us all ..but there will be no help from the judge.

Hell believers can't perceive that they are wrong....very very wrong.By their doctrines of men they make void the living word of God.They believe unless someone believes in "their" doctrines(which are so varied they don't harmonize ) they are going to the eternal punishment of hell.They have unawares made themselves God..the abomination that makes desolate that is sitting on the judgment seat of God proclaiming to be "God". The scriptures call that blasphemy.



posted on Nov, 21 2013 @ 04:24 PM
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If we cared about this world half as much as we care about the next, I guarantee nothing would be the same. I guess people have just stopped worrying because they've convinced themselves that Jesus is coming in their lifetime, or what they did here won't matter because they are saved and this is just an unfortunate pitstop on the way to their glorious paradise.

Good grief!
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posted on Nov, 21 2013 @ 04:26 PM
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So what you're saying is, at least 90% of the world population is going to hell. How can you live with that kind of belief? That's basically saying you're all right with the majority of the human species being roasted alive for a thousand years - or eternity! What sort of depravity makes that okay in your mind?
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posted on Nov, 21 2013 @ 05:06 PM
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AfterInfinity
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So what you're saying is, at least 90% of the world population is going to hell. How can you live with that kind of belief? That's basically saying you're all right with the majority of the human species being roasted alive for a thousand years - or eternity! What sort of depravity makes that okay in your mind?
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It's actually 97.5% and no it's not easy to accept initially, but I don't post on these forums for the fun of it. God in His grace and mercy made a way of us to escape that fate.

Yes people will be roasting in the lake of fire. No it's not politically correct or something people like to hear. Psalm 7:11 God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day.

Get right with God today, don't wait until it's to late. You could have a heart attack and die in your sleep and be in Hell a few minutes after. Hell is an awful reality where you never want to find yourself.



Only Christians go to heaven and escape Hell.
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posted on Nov, 21 2013 @ 05:18 PM
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Get right with God today, don't wait until it's to late. You could have a heart attack and die in your sleep and be in Hell a few minutes after


How amazingly profound that someone could find this morally sound.

The idea salvation is contingent upon hearing the 'good word' and subsequently accepting 'god'.

All those poor souls throughout the the millennia that are going to, as you said, roast in the lake of fire simply because they were born in the wrong time or in the wrong place at not fault of their own.

Saying it isn't politically correct is gravely undermining just how horrible that is. It's downright evil, as evil comes.
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posted on Nov, 21 2013 @ 06:02 PM
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It's morally sound because the Bible says that every person has failed to live up to God's moral law and so finds himself guilty before God. The Biblical word for this moral failure is sin. The Bible says that "All persons are under the power of sin. None is righteous; no, not one; all have turned aside, together they have gone wrong. All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" (Rom. 3.10,12,23).

God's justice will not be compromised. Every human being can be guaranteed absolute justice.

That's why we must cast ourselves on God's mercy. Even though we are guilty and deserve to die, God still loves us.



posted on Nov, 21 2013 @ 06:04 PM
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Wow, I hate to see how you "love" your children, if you accept that is how god loves us. Do you throw them in the oven if they disobey you?



posted on Nov, 21 2013 @ 06:15 PM
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Only Christians go to heaven and escape Hell


It's mostly Christians that believe in a hell and they are the group that have had NDE's in Hell. This is what the NDE research indicates. I wonder why? My theory is because your group believes in it and are driven by fear of the place.

I don't believe either way but I am not fearful of eternal torment because I believe my creator loves me more than I love my own children and I would never ever send their soul to be tormented for eternity or any length of time for that matter. It's ridiculous to even think, imo.



posted on Nov, 21 2013 @ 06:22 PM
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TKDRL
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Wow, I hate to see how you "love" your children, if you accept that is how god loves us. Do you throw them in the oven if they disobey you?


That's a false analogy aka a fallacy. Hell is the final abode for people who have rejected God and died in their sins, an eternal prison of torment. The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom. You have created a false God in your mind because you love your sin.

A loving parent will discipline his children when they are out of line just as our Heavenly Father does.



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