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Rubinstein
I'd recommend more people get clued up on statistics, it will help them to understand the dangers of vaccines
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Rubinstein
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Oh, just to counter your last attack, I worked in and around a paediatric ICU for 14 years and have personally been responsible for saving the lives of quite a few kids. By personally responsible I mean me resuscitating a child for up to an hour at a time.
Through my work in electrophysiology I improved (and cured) numerous kids who had dangerous cardiac arrhythmias and whilst working with cardiac devices I personally helped develop new techniques for improving the lives of both children and adults with extremely serious cardiac problems.
As I still live relatively close to the hospital now and again a parent will stop me and thank me for what I've done.
That's something I feel extremely proud of.
edit on 2/12/13 by Pardon? because: (no reason given)edit on 2/12/13 by Pardon? because: (no reason given)
If you've been vaccinating the kids then you've been poisoning them, there are many studies which have been posted in this thread proving that point. Perhaps you don't realize that; being ignorant and brainwashed is nothing to be proud of.
you need to tell me WHY I'm wrong rather than say "big pharma", gubment,
Tucket
Sounds like his message is flying right over head..
Tucket
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Rubinstein
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Oh, just to counter your last attack, I worked in and around a paediatric ICU for 14 years and have personally been responsible for saving the lives of quite a few kids. By personally responsible I mean me resuscitating a child for up to an hour at a time.
Through my work in electrophysiology I improved (and cured) numerous kids who had dangerous cardiac arrhythmias and whilst working with cardiac devices I personally helped develop new techniques for improving the lives of both children and adults with extremely serious cardiac problems.
As I still live relatively close to the hospital now and again a parent will stop me and thank me for what I've done.
That's something I feel extremely proud of.
edit on 2/12/13 by Pardon? because: (no reason given)edit on 2/12/13 by Pardon? because: (no reason given)
If you've been vaccinating the kids then you've been poisoning them, there are many studies which have been posted in this thread proving that point. Perhaps you don't realize that; being ignorant and brainwashed is nothing to be proud of.
you need to tell me WHY I'm wrong rather than say "big pharma", gubment,
Sounds like his message is flying right over head..
turboneon
During these long discussions concerning emotional/controversial topics, does anyone ever switch sides? Do we just come here to argue? We seem so split and judgmental regarding other's personal choices. as thhe old saying goes,"Divide and conquer."
Hiddenstein
Yes, the message has been stated loud and clear, anyone with a half-decent amount of knowledge and logic would have realized that there are at least some reasons to doubt vaccines, no least because of the criminal corporations who make them and bribe (lobby) for laws to be changed making it difficult to avoid them. When a person appears on a forum who has all the time in the world to post and isn't willing to concede even an inch on the topic, it will always raises the question mark as to what their purpose here actually is.
Rubinstein
Exellent question! I've never seen anyone switch from anti-vaccine to pro-vaccine, but it happens all the time the other way around.
turboneon
During these long discussions concerning emotional/controversial topics, does anyone ever switch sides? Do we just come here to argue? We seem so split and judgmental regarding other's personal choices. as thhe old saying goes,"Divide and conquer."
turboneon
During these long discussions concerning emotional/controversial topics, does anyone ever switch sides? Do we just come here to argue? We seem so split and judgmental regarding other's personal choices. as thhe old saying goes,"Divide and conquer."
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Rubinstein
Exellent question! I've never seen anyone switch from anti-vaccine to pro-vaccine, but it happens all the time the other way around.
Here's proof that you don't read anyone else's posts, not even your own.
www.nzherald.co.nz...
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I do think sometimes that I should just leave things be and let people decide for themselves but I can't. It's not in my nature. I worked far too long helping kids to see a bunch of Google trained medics undo all of the good.
Rubinstein
They weren't posting on a forum, just some people who've been maniuplated and misinformed, they've taken uninformed people and created a straw man argument, now the piece is being used for corporate propaganda. The reality is the anti-vaxxers are known to be a well-educated bunch; these people in the article are not a good example.
Tetanus is a complication of poor wound hygeine. Clean your wounds well, no problems! People who've been vaccinated against Tetanus can still catch Tetanus if they don't clean their wounds. The DPT is one of the most dangerous of all the vaccines.
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Rubinstein
Exellent question! I've never seen anyone switch from anti-vaccine to pro-vaccine, but it happens all the time the other way around.
Here's proof that you don't read anyone else's posts, not even your own.
www.nzherald.co.nz...edit on 2-12-2013 by Rubinstein because: (no reason given)
OneManArmy
turboneon
During these long discussions concerning emotional/controversial topics, does anyone ever switch sides? Do we just come here to argue? We seem so split and judgmental regarding other's personal choices. as thhe old saying goes,"Divide and conquer."
Yes...Me.
I played devils advocate on a recent chemtrail thread(Here) for the conspiracy. I tried long and hard to find some reliable evidence equating emissions from planes and the spreading clouds being some sort of chemical geoengineering. I found a lot of evidence for chemical and biological testing on civilians, both sprayed from planes and not from planes, but I found no evidence to link classic "chemtrails" with aircraft emissions.
That doesnt mean it doesnt happen, it just means there is no incontrovertible evidence. I declared such and admitted defeat.
But with regards to this debate, I cannot say the same thing. I have found lots of evidence of pharma foul play and collusion with government. I have also found evidence of a gross misrepresentation of the statistics of the reality of the dangers of measles and that misrepresentation being used to scare monger caring parents to vaccinate their children with MMR while offering no separate jabs. I have found no evidence of studies that determine the dangers of the MMR vaccine.
I would like to add I have an open mind, Im not playing devils advocate in this particular debate, but the evidence has lead me more in favour of an MMR conspiracy, just trying to investigate for myself and to present my findings as I find them(from "reliable" sources).edit on 201312America/Chicago12pm12pmMon, 02 Dec 2013 13:34:57 -06001213 by OneManArmy because: (no reason given)
Rubinstein
They weren't posting on a forum, just some people who've been maniuplated and misinformed, they've taken uninformed people and created a straw man argument, now the piece is being used for corporate propaganda. The reality is the anti-vaxxers are known to be a well-educated bunch; these people in the article are not a good example.
Tetanus is a complication of poor wound hygeine. Clean your wounds well, no problems! People who've been vaccinated against Tetanus can still catch Tetanus if they don't clean their wounds. The DPT is one of the most dangerous of all the vaccines.
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Rubinstein
Exellent question! I've never seen anyone switch from anti-vaccine to pro-vaccine, but it happens all the time the other way around.
Here's proof that you don't read anyone else's posts, not even your own.
www.nzherald.co.nz...edit on 2-12-2013 by Rubinstein because: (no reason given)
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Tucket
Sounds like his message is flying right over head..
Would you care to embellish that statement or are you one of the "gubment did it" clones?
Oh yes, you were the one who posted the video with the ultra-loon Andrew Moulden.
Well done.
Tucket
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Tucket
Sounds like his message is flying right over head..
Would you care to embellish that statement or are you one of the "gubment did it" clones?
Oh yes, you were the one who posted the video with the ultra-loon Andrew Moulden.
Well done.
What's with the name calling and offensive tone?
And with the video I was solely pointing out that there is a vaccine court.
What's left to embellish? You can't handle the truth..
Tucket
c
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Tucket
Sounds like his message is flying right over head..
Would you care to embellish that statement or are you one of the "gubment did it" clones?
Oh yes, you were the one who posted the video with the ultra-loon Andrew Moulden.
Well done.
What's with the name calling and offensive tone?
And with the video I was solely pointing out that there is a vaccine court.
What's left to embellish? You can't handle the truth..
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Serious adverse events after MMR
www.nccn.net...
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Tucket
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Tucket
Sounds like his message is flying right over head..
Would you care to embellish that statement or are you one of the "gubment did it" clones?
Oh yes, you were the one who posted the video with the ultra-loon Andrew Moulden.
Well done.
What's with the name calling and offensive tone?
And with the video I was solely pointing out that there is a vaccine court.
What's left to embellish? You can't handle the truth..
My response befitted the nature of your cryptic one-liner.
And what's left to embellish?
What your definition of "the truth" is.