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boncho
OneManArmy
boncho
Going completely against the anti-vax claims that no vaccines = stronger immune system:
Notice on U.S Vaccination Survey / and a German Study: Vaccinated Children Have More Than Twice the Diseases and Disorders Than Unvaccinated Children
journal.livingfood.us...
Lol, you post a link to a German study that shows...
Result: the death rate in vaccinated children against diphtheria, tetanus and whooping cough is twice as high as the unvaccinated children (10.5% versus 4.7%).
And you think that supports your argument?
Oops, meant to add this:
A survey administered by a German anti-vaccine homeopath backfires spectacularly
scienceblogs.com...
The parents stated that their preferred treatment was naturopathic and homeopathic. Less than 10% said they preferred conventional medicine. Treatment in the “other” column was mainly chiropractic and supplemental.
So, right away, this survey demonstrates that the parents who filled it out were a self-selected, biased sample, the vast majority of whom favor alternative medicine and are hostile to scientific medicine. Indeed, 99.69% of the respondents report being happy that they did not vaccinate their children
And from the survey I posted (actual responses from the internet survey to "collect data"):
"She(17 years) is very healthy, and most are shocked that she never had an ear infection in her lifetime."
Here's a link to the actual survey.
"Anti government control. Can't have raw milk? OMG! We are forced to get shots? I will die fighting this! I am a true american and I have freedoms and I will fight for them!"
stumason
reply to post by angryhulk
Quite.. He has literally been ridiculed by every other Doctor and Scientist in the world and his name is worse than mud.
Also, I would like to point out the source article is a bit disingenuous - He isn't from Austin, Texas. He moved there after he was hounded out of the UK for being a liar and a cheat.
I suspect they (the writers of the article) either didn't check their facts (and for something as basic as that, one has to wonder about the rest of the article) or they deliberately misrepresented the "good Doctor" so people wouldn't immediately know who he was.
And for the record, 3 kids - 3 lots of MMR - no autism. I know many, many more kids who've had it and, guess what, no autism. In fact, the prevalence of Autism in kids who have been vaccinated with MMR is no higher than kids who weren't.
Pimpintology
Already knew this was fact because I've watched brain cells react under a microscope to this poison. When I was growing up no one around me had autism. Now its everywhere. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out. Every parent that shoots their kid up with this trash and doesn't read whats in it should be subject to criminal prosecution.
boncho
And with that Im done with this thread.
angryhulk
Pimpintology
Already knew this was fact because I've watched brain cells react under a microscope to this poison. When I was growing up no one around me had autism. Now its everywhere. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out. Every parent that shoots their kid up with this trash and doesn't read whats in it should be subject to criminal prosecution.
You're absolutely crazy.
Sort it out.
OneManArmy
angryhulk
Pimpintology
Already knew this was fact because I've watched brain cells react under a microscope to this poison. When I was growing up no one around me had autism. Now its everywhere. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out. Every parent that shoots their kid up with this trash and doesn't read whats in it should be subject to criminal prosecution.
You're absolutely crazy.
Sort it out.
Since when has being informed about what is being injected into our children "crazy"?
Now if you would like to bring facts to the debate rather than spurious opinion, jump in.
angryhulk
OneManArmy
angryhulk
Pimpintology
Already knew this was fact because I've watched brain cells react under a microscope to this poison. When I was growing up no one around me had autism. Now its everywhere. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out. Every parent that shoots their kid up with this trash and doesn't read whats in it should be subject to criminal prosecution.
You're absolutely crazy.
Sort it out.
Since when has being informed about what is being injected into our children "crazy"?
Now if you would like to bring facts to the debate rather than spurious opinion, jump in.
Oh, you're still here. Great! More nonsensical deliberating with you. Looking forward to it.
If you think that's why I'm calling him crazy, then you're crazy to.
OneManArmy
angryhulk
OneManArmy
angryhulk
Pimpintology
Already knew this was fact because I've watched brain cells react under a microscope to this poison. When I was growing up no one around me had autism. Now its everywhere. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out. Every parent that shoots their kid up with this trash and doesn't read whats in it should be subject to criminal prosecution.
You're absolutely crazy.
Sort it out.
Since when has being informed about what is being injected into our children "crazy"?
Now if you would like to bring facts to the debate rather than spurious opinion, jump in.
Oh, you're still here. Great! More nonsensical deliberating with you. Looking forward to it.
If you think that's why I'm calling him crazy, then you're crazy to.
Well he has a right to his opinion, just like you, but you simply replied to opinion with opinion.
His was emotional, yours was derogatory.
If all what Im saying is nonsense then prove it, just saying it doesnt make it true.
angryhulk
OneManArmy
angryhulk
OneManArmy
angryhulk
Pimpintology
Already knew this was fact because I've watched brain cells react under a microscope to this poison. When I was growing up no one around me had autism. Now its everywhere. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure it out. Every parent that shoots their kid up with this trash and doesn't read whats in it should be subject to criminal prosecution.
You're absolutely crazy.
Sort it out.
Since when has being informed about what is being injected into our children "crazy"?
Now if you would like to bring facts to the debate rather than spurious opinion, jump in.
Oh, you're still here. Great! More nonsensical deliberating with you. Looking forward to it.
If you think that's why I'm calling him crazy, then you're crazy to.
Well he has a right to his opinion, just like you, but you simply replied to opinion with opinion.
His was emotional, yours was derogatory.
If all what Im saying is nonsense then prove it, just saying it doesnt make it true.
Oh my god. Now you're just posting for the sake of posting. I shared my opinions with you earlier in the thread and got bored of your 1 dimensional replies, sharing ridiculous facts and sources and hiding behind big words. Everybody on this forum has exhausted everything they can in swaying you but you need the last word. You are a pointless opponent in an arguement.
You've hooked me in again though, well done.
And with regards to the guy up there that thinks every parent should be prosecuted allowing the vaccine to be administered, I have every right to call him crazy as he is then referring to me.
libertytoall
Any credible websites verifying this?edit on 23-11-2013 by libertytoall because: (no reason given)
OneManArmy
boncho
OneManArmy
boncho
Going completely against the anti-vax claims that no vaccines = stronger immune system:
Notice on U.S Vaccination Survey / and a German Study: Vaccinated Children Have More Than Twice the Diseases and Disorders Than Unvaccinated Children
journal.livingfood.us...
Lol, you post a link to a German study that shows...
Result: the death rate in vaccinated children against diphtheria, tetanus and whooping cough is twice as high as the unvaccinated children (10.5% versus 4.7%).
And you think that supports your argument?
Oops, meant to add this:
A survey administered by a German anti-vaccine homeopath backfires spectacularly
scienceblogs.com...
The parents stated that their preferred treatment was naturopathic and homeopathic. Less than 10% said they preferred conventional medicine. Treatment in the “other” column was mainly chiropractic and supplemental.
So, right away, this survey demonstrates that the parents who filled it out were a self-selected, biased sample, the vast majority of whom favor alternative medicine and are hostile to scientific medicine. Indeed, 99.69% of the respondents report being happy that they did not vaccinate their children
And from the survey I posted (actual responses from the internet survey to "collect data"):
"She(17 years) is very healthy, and most are shocked that she never had an ear infection in her lifetime."
Here's a link to the actual survey.
I did a little digging on David "Orac" Gorski(who wrote the science blog article), it would appear that he could well be paid by the pharma companies.
Source 1
Source 2
Source 3
On that bombshell I think its best to regard his opinions as exactly what they are...opinions.
So where are the results of the survey?
I do not wish to take the survey.edit on 201311America/Chicago11pm11pmSat, 23 Nov 2013 12:24:42 -06001113 by OneManArmy because: (no reason given)
TheToastmanCometh
I also have to wave the BS flag on this.
Also on the Autistic spectrum, and had the MMR shot, but I've had some problems even before the shot.
I'm not sure if my ASD was caused by prior health problems, but I know for sure that I've never had any reactions to all my vaccines that I've had up to this point.
Advantage
BABYBULL24
If these vaccines are safe - why do they have a special Vaccine Court?
Vaccine court
Specifically the last part : Petitioner’s Burden of Proof
Everyone wants to get paid..its ruined the whole process of changing the vaccine manufacture and actually helping the kids who are already effected. PEOPLE individually are just as greedy as the vaccine makers.. and a whole hell of a lot more irrational. Everything isnt due to the vaccine. What are being thrown under the "autism spectrum" now are sometimes totally unrelated to the vaccine.. yet folks want their paycheck for their kids' problems. They should IMO stop the individual payments in these settlements and set up a wholly medical and educational fund for supplies, materials ( weighted blankets and other tactile instruments), education funds/autism center funds, etc for the children **themselves**. By time the parents are older or dead and can no longer take care of the profoundly autistic kids and they need care.. the funds are spent.
We do live in Bizarroworld...
BABYBULL24
If these vaccines are safe - why do they have a special Vaccine Court?
Vaccine court
Rubinstein
If someone gets an autoimmune disease directly after vaccination, by default it's logical to assume it was caused by the vaccine unless anyone can prove it wasn't, in the same way as if someone is run over by a car we assume the car caused their broken bones unless there is other evidence available.