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American Troops Use Women And Children As Human Shields

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posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 04:02 PM
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They never fail to amaze me..... (Jihadunspun.com that is)



A field Commander for the Mujahideen disclosed to a correspondent for Mafkarat al-Islam in Fallujah what he called the tragedy of the street fighting in reference to the way that the invading American troops were using Iraqi women and children as human shields.

The Commander said that the tragedy began last Tuesday and that before that, he had never seen such things, when the Americans used used women and children to shield their tanks. The Commander commented: this state is living through a type of savagery that history has never known before.

The field Commander said we could hear the cries of the children and the womens calls for help from atop a column of tanks that was driving along ath-Tharthar street last Tuesday. Some of our fighters closed their eyes in pain and wept at the sight.



American Troops Use Women And Children As Human Shields



This Jihadunspun.com is getting out of hand.
We are gonna have to stop this or the daily show on comedy central will lose rating!


Later,
Reason

[edit on 17-11-2004 by REASON]




posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 04:10 PM
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Whatever the Islamists do that is criminal, that is what they accuse the US of doing. They're just a bunch of liars and murderers and they prove it every single day.

[edit on 04/11/17 by GradyPhilpott]



posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 04:16 PM
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Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
Whatever the Islamists do that is criminal, that is what they accuse the US of doing. They're just a bunch of liars murderers and they prove it every single day.


I agree. The world needs to be purged from these forms of life.
They only are interested in Inflicting maximum pain in the name of "Allah".

Later,

Reason



posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 04:17 PM
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The site is ridiculous..

You will get people actually believing what is wrote.

The person/persons who wote this are either on another planet / taking massive amounts of drugs or just very good at pulling the wool over the Iraq'i people's eyes.

I would probably suggest all of the above.



posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 04:23 PM
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Well you have to understand that that site is how the middle east sees the situation in Iraq, they have their own version of the truth.

Thinks like in Jihadunspun.com is what feeds the musling radicals in their fight with the infidels.

Now to make things worst they have a real video showing how bad the US really is in Iraq.

The same way that our government will play with our minds so the radical islam plays also with the minds of their followers.

We will never be safe again anywhere around the world.



posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 04:25 PM
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A perfect example of dis-information and propoganda. Isn't it exciting to know even as beat up as our enemies are they can still find the time to lie in hopes of gaining new allies? Oh the things people will do just to lose a war...



posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 04:28 PM
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REASON, take note. The last person who posted this exact same topic a few hours ago is on global ignore.

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 04:31 PM
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Originally posted by marg6043
Well you have to understand that that site is how the middle east sees the situation in Iraq, they have their own version of the truth.



No, Marge, the truth does not come in different brands and flavors, the truth is the truth. If it is not the truth, it is a lie.

Do you think our troops are capable of doing such a thing? Our soldiers, our marines?

There is no defense for this lie. Manipulation and spin is one thing, but come on! I doubt even Baghdad Bob would have made such an accusation!



posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 04:48 PM
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makes no sense - the insurgents have been targeting women and children all along - and being used as human targets on US tanks shows co-operation with "the enemy"...making them MORE of a target

besides - I thought "the resistance" already wiped out the US in Fallujah...



posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 04:52 PM
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Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
No, Marge, the truth does not come in different brands and flavors, the truth is the truth. If it is not the truth, it is a lie.



I hope you apply this equally when you learn that those things you yourself have believed are true, are shown to be lies.



posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 04:53 PM
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posted by marg6043




The same way that our government will play with our minds so the radical islam plays also with the minds of their followers.


Very true but the main difference many fail to realize is that I, as an individual liveing in the United States, has the freedom to persue other avenues of information that makes me more knowledgeable. As corrupt or Bias many think American media is, I still have the chance to hear the "flip side to every argument".

It is how Governments takes control and oppresive regimes stay in charge. Limiting what people take in and keeping them in line. We have seen this and unfortunatly will still continue to see this in the future.

Later, Reason



posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 04:55 PM
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Originally posted by Thomas Crowne

No, Marge, the truth does not come in different brands and flavors, the truth is the truth. If it is not the truth, it is a lie.

Do you think our troops are capable of doing such a thing? Our soldiers, our marines?

There is no defense for this lie. Manipulation and spin is one thing, but come on! I doubt even Baghdad Bob would have made such an accusation!


I understand Thomas but the radicals are using this type of misinformation to gain more supporters to their cause.

Do you think they are going to show pictures of good things to gain supporters, occurs not, and to tell you the truth I like to know what they thinking and what they are doing.

And is up to me to see it as a lie and propaganda



posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 04:55 PM
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No, Marge, the truth does not come in different brands and flavors, the truth is the truth. If it is not the truth, it is a lie.

Do you think our troops are capable of doing such a thing? Our soldiers, our marines?

There is no defense for this lie. Manipulation and spin is one thing, but come on! I doubt even Baghdad Bob would have made such an accusation!



No, but your troops did rape women in Abu Graib, or did you smudge that out of your right wing bias? The same troops that will not allow men aged 15-55 to leave Fallujah, regardless if they have ties to terrorism or not?

Come on..

Deep



posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 04:57 PM
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Originally posted by Bikereddie
The person/persons who wrote this are either on another planet / taking massive amounts of drugs



I like the idea of coked-up extraterrestrials

It's mildly amuzing.



posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 04:57 PM
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damn nazi socialist commie faciest fantatics!



posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 04:57 PM
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Originally posted by beergoggles
REASON, take note. The last person who posted this exact same topic a few hours ago is on global ignore.

www.abovetopsecret.com...


Did you notice his topic had no proof or links and just had a quick one line statement.

My topic has......

a good title.
Bubble article quoting.
Link to the original article.
And my comments of how things are getting out of hand with Jihadunspun.com

I sure hope I don't get global Ignore...

Thanks for the warning though.

Later,

Reason



posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 04:59 PM
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Originally posted by rayzor11
makes no sense - the insurgents have been targeting women and children all along - and being used as human targets on US tanks shows co-operation with "the enemy"...making them MORE of a target

besides - I thought "the resistance" already wiped out the US in Fallujah...


Is very simple "insurgents" that come from outside Iraq see the people of Iraq as expendable to pursue their cause.

Also Iraq is not just one group but a series of tribes that are not friendly to each other.

The same way we see "casualties of war" as necesary and unavoidable so this groups that comes from the outside of Iraq sees the Iraqi people as "casualties" also.

In the end the ones that are losing are the inocent.



posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 05:01 PM
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Originally posted by MaskedAvatar


I hope you apply this equally when you learn that those things you yourself have believed are true, are shown to be lies.


Back atcha, pal.



posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 05:13 PM
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There is a world ofdifference between what is widespread and common policy. Insurgents hiding behind the populations and mosques and claiming they are "protecting them" as they launch attacks, or the kidnapping and execution of helpless civilians, many of them guilty of nothing more than helping common Iraqis is one thing.

And the indiscriminate, disreputable and disgusting actions of a relative few coalition troops who deserve the harshest punishment they get for thier actions is another.

As are the actions of the more noxious "leaders" on both sides.

Marge6043 you are the wife of a (former?) Marine.....Surely even he is sickened and angry at some of the misinformation and second guessing of marines in combat that he has seen.

If I was an American or an Australian serviceman today, I think I would be sickened enough to go bush/woodsman on society, and let some of the social liberals fend for and protect themselves, given how so many seem so willing to believe the worst based on the actions or lies of so few. The trouble is that leaves everyone else unprotected.



posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 05:17 PM
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Originally posted by craigandrew

As are the actions of the more noxious "leaders" on both sides.

Marge6043 you are the wife of a (former?) Marine.....Surely even he is sickened and angry at some of the misinformation and second guessing of marines in combat that he has seen.



Well he does get better news that we do been in a military base is a lot of memos and E-mail going on around.

He was very angry at the video of the Marine and the Insurgent incident, and he did say that the video should have been destroyed.




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