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Obamacare Poster Child Will Have To Opt Out Of Insurance

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posted on Nov, 18 2013 @ 09:20 PM
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You know, I actually feel bad for this woman. She was used by Obama to promote his Obamafraud insurance. And now here she sits, unable to afford it.

Jessica Sanford, received special recognition by Obama in the form of a shout out while giving his speech in the Rose Garden. (Remember the one where the lady fainted?) She was exemplified as one of the people helped by his wonderful ACA.



Obama:
I recently received a letter from a woman in Washington state, and here's what she wrote.

" I am a single mom, no child support, self employed, and I have had no health insurance for 15 years because it is too expensive. My son has ADHD an requires regular doctor visits, and his meds alone cost $250 a month. I have had an ongoing tendinitis problem due to my line of work that I have to get treated. Now finally, we get to have coverage because of the ACA for $169 per month. I was crying the other day when I signed up. So much stress lifted."


But, yes there is always a but with Obamacare. It looks like she was one of the ones affected by the erroneous subsidy calculations in Washington. So I guess she spoke too soon. Her $169 plan will now cost $621 per month. I hate to tell her, I told you so, but this Obamacare really is a monster mess.

So, for the unhappy end to this story, Jessica will have to pay to opt out. So now not only will she have to still pay for her medical bills, she will also have to pay an ever growing penalty that will grow to 2.5% of her income in 2016 and will be adjusted for inflation every year after.

So it looks like this really was too good to be true for poor Jessica now doesn't it?

Rude Awakening for Federal Way Woman Who Got Shout-Out From President – Can’t Afford Obamacare Policy After All
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posted on Nov, 18 2013 @ 09:29 PM
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Well... she's says she's still a huge fan of Obama's. Maybe she'll get another shout out and that will make her plan more affordable. If not, I am sure she will understand.


ETA - That I can't even act surprised anymore. My "shocked face" has gone into retirement at this point.
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posted on Nov, 18 2013 @ 09:32 PM
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Why dont you people do like we do in the UK?
Over here we pay a small amount from our wages each week towards a national insurance stamp. Everyone who works pays towards it. Our health service is not run for profit and thats why its so inexpensive!
Anyone over here can go see the doctor, get a ride in an ambulance, or go to hospital without having to pay a single penny!

We love our National Health Service.



posted on Nov, 18 2013 @ 09:34 PM
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I think that is what a lot of folks were expecting to get in all honesty. That's why a lot of people are so pissed. It was sold as one thing and turned out to be something totally different.
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posted on Nov, 18 2013 @ 09:39 PM
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Its gone up recently.

If you're employed
If you're employed you pay Class 1 National Insurance contributions. The rates are:
if you earn more than £149 a week and up to £797 a week, you pay 12 per cent of the amount you earn between £149 and £797
if you earn more than £797 a week, you also pay 2 per cent of all your earnings over £797
You pay a lower rate if you're a member of your employer's contracted-out pension scheme.
Your contributions are deducted from your wages by your employer.


This is ONLY paid by those who work. Anyone who is retired or unable to work, or unemployed, doesnt pay anything.

My fear is that TPTB will try to force on us what they've forced onto you.



posted on Nov, 18 2013 @ 09:48 PM
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VoidHawk
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Its gone up recently.

If you're employed
If you're employed you pay Class 1 National Insurance contributions. The rates are:
if you earn more than £149 a week and up to £797 a week, you pay 12 per cent of the amount you earn between £149 and £797
if you earn more than £797 a week, you also pay 2 per cent of all your earnings over £797
You pay a lower rate if you're a member of your employer's contracted-out pension scheme.
Your contributions are deducted from your wages by your employer.


This is ONLY paid by those who work. Anyone who is retired or unable to work, or unemployed, doesnt pay anything.

My fear is that TPTB will try to force on us what they've forced onto you.


I hope it is not a valid fear for any of you. But, when there is big money to be made, one never knows. Hopefully they will see how badly this has been sold and how screwed the American people feel, and they will not even consider adopting it for use in the UK or anywhere else.



posted on Nov, 18 2013 @ 10:29 PM
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My fear is that TPTB will try to force on us what they've forced onto you.


I don't think you have to worry about it too much. Greed will always try to weasel it's way in but obamacare is like a .44 slug to the forehead of America with the whole world able to see what's happening.

Can you see Cameron or whoever running on a platform like that? They'd be running for the hills.



posted on Nov, 18 2013 @ 10:32 PM
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I'm hesitant to think 'har har, I told you so', because this thing really looked promising. It sounded like a dream come true, especially to people with conditions that insurance companies won't touch. The only downside until now was the whole nebulous 'OMG socialism' aspect. I can't blame anyone in the slightest for not expecting a giant for-profit money grab. I myself used to think that the US was finally moving one step closer to how other countries run things for their people, but now I'm worried. Will my pharmacy that gives me my expensive medicine for only $45 a bottle want to close? Will my awesome and adept doctor quit (holy god in heaven forbid!)?

I see most of the country refusing to sign up even after it takes effect. People say that things can only change if the citizens take a stand... well, if anything, this will be it. Something will have to give after this.



posted on Nov, 18 2013 @ 11:06 PM
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Kangaruex4Ewe

[...]

ETA - That I can't even act surprised anymore. My "shocked face" has gone into retirement at this point..


Yeah, mine's kinda frozen into a death's-head rictus. I think I'll just leave it that way. I'm thinking I'll have put on my tombstone: "He thought it couldn't possibly get any worse. And then came Obama."

There'll probably be a fine for that too....



posted on Nov, 19 2013 @ 12:45 AM
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As much as I hate to say it, I feel compelled to vote against the Democratic party in 2016 simply for the need to clean up the mess that is Obamacare. What we had before, granted it wasn't ideal, was working. Obamacare has literally just made everything worse. It's not healthcare reform, it's 3000 pages of BS.

You can't have a for-profit universal healthcare system. It doesn't work that way. This is why Obamacare was doomed to fail from the start; it didn't reform anything, it just made things worse.

Why reinvent the wheel?
We should just follow the European system, which doesn't seem to be financially crippling the working class.



posted on Nov, 19 2013 @ 02:09 AM
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VoidHawk
Why dont you people do like we do in the UK?
Over here we pay a small amount from our wages each week towards a national insurance stamp. Everyone who works pays towards it. Our health service is not run for profit and thats why its so inexpensive!
Anyone over here can go see the doctor, get a ride in an ambulance, or go to hospital without having to pay a single penny!

We love our National Health Service.


Wow....that's great!

Over here, a ride in the ambulance is an automatic $500, regardless if it's 5 miles or 25 miles.

When my Mom fell ill, my sister found her & called 911....she got billed $500 for the ambulance ride.
[**Word of advise to Americans**....NEVER sign your name on medical forms if at all possible!!]

And when my father-in-law's cancer came back and he was nearing hospice care, the social worker told us to pay a yearly membership ambulance fee of $25.....she said it would cost us $500 other wise.
We ended up having to use it a month later, with no extra charge.

Every thing in America is commercialized.
It's all about the MONEY $$$$$



posted on Nov, 19 2013 @ 04:56 AM
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I want to go to Denmark.



posted on Nov, 19 2013 @ 05:00 AM
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DestroyDestroyDestroy
As much as I hate to say it, I feel compelled to vote against the Democratic party in 2016 simply for the need to clean up the mess that is Obamacare. What we had before, granted it wasn't ideal, was working. Obamacare has literally just made everything worse. It's not healthcare reform, it's 3000 pages of BS.

You can't have a for-profit universal healthcare system. It doesn't work that way. This is why Obamacare was doomed to fail from the start; it didn't reform anything, it just made things worse.

Why reinvent the wheel?
We should just follow the European system, which doesn't seem to be financially crippling the working class.






Well don't vote either party...vote Independent or what ever...but I guarantee there will be a drip slobbering Republican to continue this program. Don't think it all started with Obama...both parties are to blame just as they are right now in Congress. Vote a 3rd party. And sit back and watch the show.



posted on Nov, 19 2013 @ 06:22 AM
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Reading that article they even missed something else, she will have
to pay 95$ OR 1% or her income, whichever is greater if i am not mistaken.
At least that's what i remember reading.



posted on Nov, 19 2013 @ 08:27 AM
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VoidHawk
Why dont you people do like we do in the UK?
Over here we pay a small amount from our wages each week towards a national insurance stamp. Everyone who works pays towards it. Our health service is not run for profit and thats why its so inexpensive!
Anyone over here can go see the doctor, get a ride in an ambulance, or go to hospital without having to pay a single penny!

We love our National Health Service.


Because that would require people to pay more in taxes. They cry about the taxes here and most of the people crying about them have never really paid that much in taxes they should have been around when we paid around 80% in taxes. The for profit medical industry is a failure America pays more for medical treatment than anyone and get next to nothing for it. Some hospitals here in the states dump patients on skid row if they have no insurance because here in the states money is more important than a human life.



posted on Nov, 19 2013 @ 11:28 AM
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HA HA HA is all I have to say. The only thing these idiots had to do, was go to any search engine, and type in those 5 letters "Obama" and they would have learned all about the man but they couldn't even do that. I don't feel bad for anyone who voted for him when the evidence was more overwhelming than wondering if the sky is blue or not.
Firepiston



posted on Nov, 19 2013 @ 11:32 AM
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When I wrecked my motorcycle a while back, my ambulance ride cost me $2200.00 for 20 miles. The emergency room visit was $153.00. I did refuse any pain killers but they cleaned my rash rather well. The stitches kinda sucked. I had no insurance at the time so this was the straight up cost. All of which was paid for with money saved for rainy days. : )

But damn, $2200.00?

: )



posted on Nov, 19 2013 @ 01:20 PM
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That's some serious dark irony. You'd think it would be a reality slap upside the head for her.
If she wants to make amends she should get on TV and tell everyone what happened to her.



posted on Nov, 19 2013 @ 05:08 PM
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rockn82
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When I wrecked my motorcycle a while back, my ambulance ride cost me $2200.00 for 20 miles. The emergency room visit was $153.00. I did refuse any pain killers but they cleaned my rash rather well. The stitches kinda sucked. I had no insurance at the time so this was the straight up cost. All of which was paid for with money saved for rainy days. : )

But damn, $2200.00?

: )


Ouch....nothing like adding insult to injury.

That's ridiculous to charge that much for the ambulance ride.


Well, when my husband had his heart attack a while back, the doctor in the ER told us he had to 'fly' to the Heart Hospital in the helicopter. My husband was like, 'No, my wife can drive me' thinking about the insurance, whether or not it would cover the expense or not. The doctor said 'Sir, you may not make it. Besides, the helicopter is on it's way. Not long after, he was on the helicopter and I had the joy of driving 50 miles not knowing what the hell was going on. I was scared sh#@less!!!

The cost for that fun ride.....$5500

But, he's still here with me so I can't really complain. However, my husband sure did....





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posted on Nov, 20 2013 @ 12:11 PM
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please provide links to news articles or first hand eye-witness reports with names of hospitals that performed said acts..

What you state is a clear violation of the law and those who cant afford it need a good ambulance chaser


I ask for evidence and will accept a lower definition of it to a point



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