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The Amazingly Moral Al Jazerra.

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posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 02:26 PM
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Here in the United states we have seen the marine shoot the wounded Iraqi soldier right? Well not exactly here in the states the footage has been edited so as to not be too graphic. Yet, on the Al Jazeera network for a second day in a row they are showing the unedited version nonstop. Ok so thats their prerogative.

But now Al Jazeera states it will not air the Margaret Hassan Execution video because it would not air any acts of killing outside of war. WTF? If the marine murdered a man that was outside of conflict, as many now allege, then why are they airing footage of that incident. You cant have it both ways, either the marine shooting the wounded insurgent is fair play of war and you can air it all day long or it happened outside of war and you cant air it.

Got to love Al Jazeera they just love us Americans




Ballout said the station would not air the video and would not broadcast any acts of killing, outside war. Al-Jazeera has been under pressure not to show videos of kidnapped foreigners


www.sfgate.com.../news/archive/2004/11/16/international1541EST0633.DTL




posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 04:08 PM
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You know why they will never show the Margaret Hassan video?

Because she is a Muslim who just went over there to help

If they aired the video they might actually get the Good Muslims to rise up in outrage against the nut job Muslims that are killing all these people. But they don't want that they want to further the cause of the terrorists.



posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 04:11 PM
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While I agree with you BJ that Al-Jazeera had a huge anti-American bias, they do alas represent popular opinion in the Arab world towards us. I agree that there is a certial level of hypocracy that they will not show the video yet they show damm near everything else.



posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 04:26 PM
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I'am sorry, forgive my ingnorance, but how many "war-crimes" has CNN aired? How many "Pundits" attacked the very premise of the war during it's initial stages on CNN? How many times does CNN broadcast information regarding human rights violations being commited by the U.S? We all should know by now the blatant propaganda being spewed by American news sources, but stand by with idle hands believing whatever ignorance is serviced to us. Tell me one other thing: when Saddams statue fell, and the world was told that "Iraq rejoiced", was that the truth?

www.informationclearinghouse.info...

CNN sure lauded this fiasco..

Why do we hold such idiotic double standards? Al-Jazeera holds popular support from Arabs the world over, and has been broadcasting images of war, as they should, as any new agencie should. The world should know that war is chaos, and an UNJUSTIFIABLE war is even MORE chaos.

Deep



posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 04:48 PM
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Originally posted by BlackJackal
Here in the United states we have seen the marine shoot the wounded Iraqi soldier right? Well not exactly here in the states the footage has been edited so as to not be too graphic. Yet, on the Al Jazeera network for a second day in a row they are showing the unedited version nonstop. Ok so thats their prerogative.

But now Al Jazeera states it will not air the Margaret Hassan Execution video because it would not air any acts of killing outside of war. WTF? If the marine murdered a man that was outside of conflict, as many now allege, then why are they airing footage of that incident. You cant have it both ways, either the marine shooting the wounded insurgent is fair play of war and you can air it all day long or it happened outside of war and you cant air it.

Got to love Al Jazeera they just love us Americans




Ballout said the station would not air the video and would not broadcast any acts of killing, outside war. Al-Jazeera has been under pressure not to show videos of kidnapped foreigners


www.sfgate.com.../news/archive/2004/11/16/international1541EST0633.DTL


Hi.
This is wrong,al-jazeera will not show the video because they cannot be sure that it is in fact Hassan in the video.
english.aljazeera.net...
its there in the first paragraph.just wanted to point this out.



posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 05:25 PM
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Originally posted by Samhain
Hi.
This is wrong,al-jazeera will not show the video because they cannot be sure that it is in fact Hassan in the video.
english.aljazeera.net...
its there in the first paragraph.just wanted to point this out.


If this is wrong then why did Al Jazeera Spokesman Jihad Ballout, wow thats an interesting name, say this:



Al-Jazeera spokesman Jihad Ballout. The station received the tape a few days ago but had not been sure of its authenticity until recently, he said.

"We invited British diplomatic officials to come and view it," he told The Associated Press. "It's now likely that the image depicts Mrs. Hassan."



Samhain I believe your information is old.



posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 06:54 PM
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I did a Google on Jihad's name just to make sure it was real.(LOL,jihad ballout!!??HAHAHA!)


"Aljazeera on Tuesday decided not to broadcast the video as it could not be sure that the woman was Hassan. An Aljazeera official said the channel would also not air it out of respect for the feelings of its audience. "

Thats the quote from the al jazeera site itself.
Maybe they wanted to clear that up.



posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 06:58 PM
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Yah, so moral these scum are. So incredibly one sided they are. Do they honestly think they are fooling anyone but themselves and their coward cohorts?



posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 07:14 PM
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first superdude what a cohorts?


secoundly who in their right mind would want to see someone get exicuted
last time i saw one i threw up




posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 07:22 PM
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If YOUR "brave freedom fighters" kidnaped and Murdered an old woman who was just trying to help your poor people would you want to show the video?



posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 07:23 PM
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I have yet to see a media outlet that's not slanted one way or the other, just a fact of life.

bodrul - cohorts is the same as comrades.

Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary . 2 : COMPANION, COLLEAGUE

[edit on 17-11-2004 by outsider]



posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 07:53 PM
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Originally posted by bodrul
first superdude what a cohorts?


secoundly who in their right mind would want to see someone get exicuted
last time i saw one i threw up



Then why are they continuing to show the marine "execute" the insurgent?



posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 10:23 PM
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Then why are they continuing to show the marine "execute" the insurgent?


Becuase that's a war crime.

Deep



posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 10:39 PM
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Originally posted by ZeroDeep
Becuase that's a war crime.

Deep


And so is executing none-combatents such as Margaret Hassan.

Both are "War Crimes" under the Geneva Convention. Your point is mute.



posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 10:43 PM
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Since when are terrorists bound by the Geneva accord?

Deep



posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 10:48 PM
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Originally posted by ZeroDeep
Since when are terrorists bound by the Geneva accord?

Deep


No one every said they were bound to the Geneva accords. Al Jazeera is the one out there making all these conditions so it is fair that they apply the same criteria to both sides of two warring factions instead of giving each side different coverage and different stipulations. If one of the warring factions is judged by the Geneva Convention both should.



posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 10:56 PM
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Yes, but the waring factions should have been American soldiers and the Iraqi soldiers, not "terrorists" and "insurgents". The American soldiers are accepted and taught to show a level of discipline, these "terrorists" and "insurgents" are not. How can you possibly bring civilized society to a people when you, yourself, act so uncivilized?

You also have to remember, these "insurgents" straping bombs to themselves, hiding bombs in dead bodies, and using other "cowardly" tactics, don't have f-14's or tanks rolling around.....

Deep



posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 11:11 PM
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So since they don't have a fair military footing with the US they should be given a break for murdering innocent civilians, when the US is not (800 civilians feared dead, Marines unable to deal with urban warfare in civilized manner)? Since they don't belong to any country they should be given a media biased, when the US is not (case in point of this thread)? Come on Zero you are pulling at strings.



posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 11:25 PM
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Originally posted by ZeroDeep
Becuase that's a war crime.

Deep


Deep, lets not rush to justice eh? We were not there so we really have no idea but for a snippet of video from a major urban combat zone.



posted on Nov, 17 2004 @ 11:37 PM
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Whose pulling at strings?

Using your logic: we should pardon U.S. killings of innocent civilians becuase the terrorists we came to 'liberate' them from are doing so aswell? The U.S. (though Bush has been trying to immunize Americans from war-crimes) is party to such accords, and as an act of 'good will', would do best to partake in such accords. They already broke many resolutions invading the country over dubious pre-texts, and the onslaught of insurgence we see is a DIRECT result of that.

We have only a 'handfull' of accounts of warcrimes being commited by the U.S. soldiers in fallujah, but, we have "thousands" of pictures of that prison scandal to suffice as to what urban war fare in a prison can manifest..

deoxy.org...
www.informationclearinghouse.info...
www.counterpunch.org...

Yes, granted that insurgents and terrorists are killing innocents, but, remember, this is only war fair warranted to them; This is a clash of those fighting for thier own democracy (not the puppet DeMOCKracy), and ability to self-determination, and terrorists cells (Al-Qeada and such) stiring the pot and taking advantage of the situation.

You invaded a country, innocent country, and they want you OUT; they will do anything in thier power to do so. Would you not? Sure, you can NOW say that you shall never revert to killing said person, but when thrown into that society, a society that is not as advanced in every realm as our own, how else can you ?

There are those who fight the illegal invasion through passive diplomatic means, and then there are those who fight with agressive militant measures. Both know this was an UNJUST war, as does most of the world.

Deep




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