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Reincarnation is Machiavellian, the end, the last life, justifies every method and means of wickedness perpetrated by people. Does the end justify the means?
What did it take to get you to that last life? Progression of learning one mistake after another? And Nirvana or whatever you want to call it, justifies the mistakes?
Progression of learning one mistake after another? And Nirvana or whatever you want to call it, justifies the mistakes?
So passed away Sorrow the Undesired—that intrusive creature, that bastard gift of shameless Nature, who respects not the social law; a waif to whom eternal Time had been a matter of days merely, who knew not that such things as years and centuries ever were; to whom the cottage interior was the universe, the week's weather climate, new-born babyhood human existence, and the instinct to suck human knowledge. Thomas Hardy. Tess of the d'Urbervilles (Kindle Location 1474).
5 None eye pitied thee, to do any of these unto thee, to have compassion upon thee; but thou wast cast out in the open field, to the lothing of thy person, in the day that thou wast born. 6 And when I passed by thee, and saw thee polluted in thine own blood, I said unto thee when thou wast in thy blood, Live; yea, I said unto thee when thou wast in thy blood, Live.
reply to post by WarminIndy
In my opinion, none of those gods, including the one in the Old Testament, are actually gods. They are products of and the evolution of primitive interpretations of natural forces and human characteristics, projected into stories for entertainment, as sense of awe and belonging, an explanation of thing not understood, control and lessons in morality.
If anyone was pushing any of the gods of antiquity as being the "One True God" I would have the same arguments with them as I have with the God of the Bible.
I find it very difficult to understand how anyone, especially Christians, still think of that Old Testament character as something to be worshiped and respected. I don't understand how anyone can honor such a character and I worry about those who do worship and continue to make excuses for such a seemingly inept and blustering God.
John must have been wrong when he declared "God is Love", because the Old Testament God is anything but.
But that's exactly the point! Why do you think you are somehow 'flawed', and that without "Jesus" having sacrificed himself, you'd be doomed?
I am glad you waited until I came home before commenting on my posts, thank you. I wouldn't want to leave everything hanging with bated breath.
I would like to think God wasn't a bumbling, primitive idiot when He made me. I'm not such bad person and I'm fairly smart. So if I'm worthy to be a person, then God can't be all that bad.
Then, what is so hard about believing that God gives us more than one "chance" to get it together?
And here you are, if I believe God made me, I believe God made you too. And I certainly don't see you as less than me. So I wouldn't think God was a bumbling idiot in making you either.
We, as humans, forget that about each other.
And thou shalt have a paddle upon thy weapon; and it shall be, when thou wilt ease thyself abroad, thou shalt dig therewith, and shalt turn back and cover that which cometh from thee:
14 For the Lord thy God walketh in the midst of thy camp, to deliver thee, and to give up thine enemies before thee; therefore shall thy camp be holy: that he see no unclean thing in thee, and turn away from thee.
What you are leaving out is the issue of faith. Jesus said by faith we could do what he did and greater things.
reply to post by WarminIndy
We share tons of biology, physiology, and psychology with many animals we consider to be inferior to us. In fact, I would say the surest proof of our being animals rests in the fact that the "King Phillip Only Chews Fine Green Spinach" system classifies us in the same way it classifies all other animals. Otherwise, we would be classified by a completely different system.
These thread titles are always done by atheist and just are insulting and so narrowminded towards christianity.They take away all humans aspect of the bible in the old testament which they claim is full of violence.The new testament has violence all through it.Every culture that ever existed has violence in it.
The atheist cannot even comprehend what a war is in the old testament.Instead they just call it Gods violence.edit on 21-11-2013 by Jobeycool because: (no reason given)