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posted on Nov, 17 2013 @ 10:33 PM
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Ok. I'm posting this because I said that I would, and there
has been some misunderstanding about my personal observations
regarding these matters. It's also a subject that interested me
for about 50 years and I did extensive research, using my own
body and being as a laboratory.

The investigatory tool I used was basic observation while doing
spiritual practices related to Kundalini, which produces dramatic
and marked changes to both biology, psychology and spiritual
aspects of a person.

Now for someone not familiar with Kudnalini, there are a
ridiculous number of links out there and enormous amounts
of misinformation and a bit of real info out there. But rather
than share some idealized version or my own version (which
takes more than 30 pages to begin to describe properly),
I'll just post this link about Kundalini Syndrome

Now in my case, I also had especially dramatic symptoms near
the end of my third episode.. including skull sutures becoming
soft and other very dramatic physical symptoms.

Now as it turns out, most of those symptoms could have been
avoided, if I had been better educated about the process..
but the process is simply not properly understood or documented
anywhere. I'd claim that I understand the process and how to avoid
the negative symptoms very well.. but I cannot take personal
responsibility for coaching someone through this.. I'm not some
established guru with a vast fortune accumulated from other
people so that I don't have to work. You can probably tell that
I don't care much for 'Gurus' which is why I don't wish to be one..
I'm not saying that all gurus are corrupt.. but putting someone
up on a pedestal like that is not right in my book. Now, maybe
in a 1000 years actual spiritual teachers could help people with
their approach to handling mysterious processes without all
the melodrama. Maybe.

If you've read some of my other posts, I talk about how we are
actually in this 3D pothole, which has due to symmetry breaking
separated from the normal 5D space-time You've also read about
what I call 'parasites' and how people confuse these parasites
for 'souls'.

The issue that comes up, and which is painfully apparent during
a multi-year kundlalini awakening, is that a certain bit of 'matter'
of a more 'spiritual type' (sorry for these crude words, but this
is dang hard to describe when the concepts haven't even been
invented yet in any human language) becomes "luminous";
that is the actual basis of the term "illuminated" at least in some
spiritual circles. When the "spiritual matter", which is of a 3D
type becomes introduced to "spiritual energies" which more
properly emanate from the larger 5D space-time, and which
people call "spirit", then this "Immuniated matter increasingly
gains this personal identity.. it actually feeds upon the host
body (us) and grows increasingly intelligent over time.

Now when this process of unfolding is 'healthy' then you have
this thing called a 'soul', which makes one 'spiritually perceptive'.
But what it really does.. is force itself to reincarnate endlessly,
as it's afraid of death.. it's not in and of itself 'transcendent'
as it's 3D 'spiritual matter' and not a so-called 'higher self'
which exists for 1/2 of an eternity or longer..

Buddha would have called this creation something like a
Skandha
and would have urged his disciples to not create such
a thing.. as it keeps one trapped in endless rebirth..
this confusion that this 'thing' 'the real you'.

Now most everyone busily makes a soul, as they are afraid
of death and want to live forever.. well not a few atheists
and reductionist materialists and a few others.. but most
people at least make a half-hearted attempt to build a
soul.

Now a kundalini awakening can build a soul that takes
STEROIDS.. can build a 'black magicians soul' or a 'holy
man's soul' -- but a rather low grade holy man.. as
the 'soul' is not who we really are.

We are in effect 11D creatures, though for all intents and
purposes you can limit that to 5D which is where most
rational beings live -- in normal space -- not his
pot-hole we live in.

So as it turns out, 'real enlightenment' and I really hate
that meme-laded confusing and wrong word-- requires
one to get beyond this fake-soul stage.. as we are not
souls.. we are way more than that.. the fact that
'souls' get luminous and gain 'psychic abilities' eventually
can really trap a human being into a very negative place.

Now these 'souls'.. when they get advanced enough..
they generally stay in a DNA bloodline and keep being
reborn when they can figure out how to insinuate themselves
into human DNA. the 'spiritual world' is actually terrifying
for a 'soul' and they try to be reborn as fast as possible..
though some just fade away or go elsewhere.. it's also
well worth nothing, that many people don't build much
of a coherent soul at all.. and that's cool..

Now these 'souls' some of them.. get pretty nasty.. they
become 'corrupted' by the memes of the person building
them.. so a lot of Christians birth demons when they
die.. as they focus on evil and demons so much.. and
are so full of fear and existential terror.. I just use
this as one example.. some Buddhists might become
'hungry ghosts' as that is part of their religion.. and
some temple of Set sorts might build a truly interesting
and more intelligently parasitic entity. But all these
entities are 'mortal' in that they can be killed.. eaten..
and would die with this universe when it dies..

Yes, human bodies make excellent "soul / parasite
builders". This is unfortunate.

You see, that nearly all of the parasites that I say
work as part of the 'Ra collective" are in fact
these types of parasites --- human constructed
ones".

Now there are other more 'senior parasites' that
are from other worlds out there.. and other
universes even.. who flee that world or universe
to stay alive.. if they must ... sometimes in
physical space ships...

A human's real 'highest self' is a really beautiful
thing.. not a soul or parasite at all. But again..
not that many humans necessarily build this
sort of contact.. it's really hard to do this
in this pothole universe. In 'real space' -
the 5D space.. everyone is born a "Buddha"
so to speak, at a minimum. I mean, Buddha's
ride the short bus on some worlds.. they are
the beginners.

Now.. above all time and space is the One,
or at least that's how it looks.. I can't
speak for 'God' as I have said so many times.

But ultimately, all the human minds and
worlds and other lives and worlds all
endlessly spill out of the creative
cauldron of the universes.. and if you don't
get much fulfillment in this life, the Universe
will get around to spending 3.5 billion years
or so and making another you out of the
mud. It all really does come out in the
wash.

Well, that's my quick and dirty observation
about souls.. and yes.. I hatched TWO of
them, to make sure I got the process
down right. The first one went to "Ra"
who absorbed / ate it, and the second
one was offered up to the real Light.. I
was very surprised about how that first
one went.. I didn't understand about
'Ra' very well back then. Fortunately
that was a parasite Skandha, not
'me'.

That's all.

KPB



edit on 17-11-2013 by KellyPrettyBear because: edited clumsy sentence




posted on Nov, 18 2013 @ 12:03 AM
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Hey Kelly - there has been an epidemic lately, at least of people admitting their involvement with these spirits, even me.

Astral Encounters with spirit guides, succubi, etc? Post Here

Very uncommon name of a woman told to me in my dream

That was identified as a succubus spirit, at least the one i was interacting with. So what are these warm spirit parasites? It is possible that I have at least one, if not hundreds, leaching off me.

How do you get rid of them? What is their behavior like so they can be identified? Can they interfere with social tasks? Are they capable of offering information in exchange for getting their agendas accomplished?
edit on 18amMon, 18 Nov 2013 00:43:04 -0600kbamkAmerica/Chicago by darkbake because: (no reason given)


Let me know... you know... if anything strikes your fancy. I'll get out of this demon phase pretty soon. I don't know what I'm talking about.
edit on 18amMon, 18 Nov 2013 00:51:15 -0600kbamkAmerica/Chicago by darkbake because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 18 2013 @ 12:08 AM
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KellyPrettyBear

If you've read some of my other posts, I talk about how we are
actually in this 3D pothole, which has due to symmetry breaking
separated from the normal 5D space-time You've also read about
what I call 'parasites' and how people confuse these parasites
for 'souls'.

The issue that comes up, and which is painfully apparent during
a multi-year kundlalini awakening, is that a certain bit of 'matter'
of a more 'spiritual type' (sorry for these crude words, but this
is dang hard to describe when the concepts haven't even been
invented yet in any human language) becomes "luminous";
that is the actual basis of the term "illuminated" at least in some
spiritual circles. When the "spiritual matter", which is of a 3D
type becomes introduced to "spiritual energies" which more
properly emanate from the larger 5D space-time, and which
people call "spirit", then this "Immuniated matter increasingly
gains this personal identity.. it actually feeds upon the host
body (us) and grows increasingly intelligent over time.



I think that I understand what you are saying here. So when did the kundlalini awakening begin? I noticed after 2012, the kundlalini as you call them started exhibiting parasitic qualities, while I half suspect that prior to 2012, they were seducing us while we got antiquated to them.

I do agree with your assessment on dimensions, and on the very real possibility of spiritual parasites, in fact, I agree with your assessment of people who are channeling warm spirits possibly being tricked? More please

And this is going to get crazy here.



This is just one example of a video from the 2000's. It honestly sounds like demons showed up on Earth and started talking, I have studied the behavioral tendencies of them and their condition and it makes sense.



I have screamed until my veins collapsed
I've waited as my time's elapsed
Now, all I do is live with so much hate
I've wished for this, I've bitched at that
I've left behind this little fact:
You cannot kill what you did not create
I've gotta say what I've gotta say
And then I swear I'll go away
But I can't promise you'll enjoy the noise
I guess I'll save the best for last
My future seems like one big past
You're left with me 'cause you left me no choice


To me, that sounds like a demon is actually writing these lyrics and explaining that they are in a prison. And they are saying to just take a second to listen. Then look at the masks and stuff. Are the demons representing themselves through those masks?



This is just another one I was watching. Check out the cameos by the Greys and people with black eyes. Both awesome songs.
edit on 18amMon, 18 Nov 2013 00:49:39 -0600kbamkAmerica/Chicago by darkbake because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 18 2013 @ 12:50 AM
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In truth, the closer the parasite comes to feeling that it has
rejoined "normal space" the more excited it becomes; it feels
that it is becoming 'godlike'; that's when it can get most
demanding.

You'd have to ask specific questions.. but I'm 99.999999%'
sure that the year has nothing to do with it. There is no
great shift coming that I know of.

Humans are nearly always convinced, that their 'soul' is
ascending to a high spiritual state. But that 'soul' is not
even them. It's a corrupt thing of their own creation,
or a previous 'soul' that is hitching a ride.

True freedom and wholeness is available.... but I'll
leave this post at this point for now. That is a different
subject entirely.

KPB



posted on Nov, 18 2013 @ 12:51 AM
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I can answer your questions.. but it's sleepy bye time for me.

KPB



posted on Nov, 18 2013 @ 02:29 AM
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Interesting subjects. I personally see some validity in the idea of subconcscious and conscious thought form propagation coming from mammals, humans especially when regarding fellow humans being essentially "formatted" to perceive some of these things - things created by other human minds. I know this because I have observed myself, or something, do it consistently and with intent.

Then all of the "other" ones.

Yea, there's a lot of stuff going on lol. I've seen my fair share, no question about it.



posted on Nov, 18 2013 @ 07:28 AM
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last week,
i 'saw' one uninvited black entity in my room when i woke up
it was like black cloud on the ceiling
between that cloud there were two humanoids
i tried to close my eyes and take another look
and it was still there, so i observed it
for several seconds, until it becomes smaller (?)
then i continued to sleep
(kept telling myself all of these were just in my mind, illusions lol)
maybe i dreamt but i'm sure i was awake.

about succubus, im sure i also encountered one in dream (?)
i remembered i was seduced. not sure if i gave in or not but when i woke up....... you know the rest. but that was pre-2013 (i guess)


peace.
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posted on Nov, 18 2013 @ 07:32 AM
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KellyPrettyBear
Humans are nearly always convinced, that their 'soul' is
ascending to a high spiritual state. But that 'soul' is not
even them.

What is 'them'?
Or should I ask you directly - what are you?



posted on Nov, 18 2013 @ 09:45 AM
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How do you get rid of an attached soul or parasite if you have one?



posted on Nov, 18 2013 @ 10:33 AM
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We could change words midstream, shift meanings around, and really confuse people, but the traditional sense of the words stands, because why do that. I AM, the I inside you and me, our identity, is Spirit/Consciousness. Soul orb is the vehicle we use and it has own upgraded bells and whistles in its new upgraded form for this level of tests, and we are attempting to reach a more upgraded form, have even more bells and whistles to play with, though currently we don't have the drivers manual for such a thing, need to grow up more, progressing ever onwards, the true Abundance and Progression of Growing and Loving Consciousness, Aware and Understanding, always Learning.

We could call that light and I do call that light, but its kind of metaphoric, for the Light can be seen in full spectrum, coming through the sun, or even a lit candle, in 2 ways, one as Love Shine from on High, and the second as electrical workings in the school. It also works as a disconnector from our lucid dream states or remembering them. So best to remember your dreams before you open your eyes, before the disconnect.

We are something Finer and behind everything.

What you are referring too, has been called poltegeist, but its somehting else too. When a spirit/soul enters in, and holds in false erroneous thinking and responds with false and erroneous actions, harming others, mistakes, things that are not a part of Expanded Aware Loving Growing Consciousness, their "light" orb shrinks, and this MUD CAKES THEM OR FILLS THEM like a layer of thick distortion and moot.

That is something that negative beings, feed on and encourage in all people by setting up traumas daily if they can.

Some of the harvesters, tiny little astral spiders, are ai or machines, anyway...
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posted on Nov, 18 2013 @ 10:39 AM
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Now a kundalini awakening can build a soul that takes
STEROIDS.. can build a 'black magicians soul' or a 'holy
man's soul' -- but a rather low grade holy man.. as
the 'soul' is not who we really are.

We are in effect 11D creatures, though for all intents and
purposes you can limit that to 5D which is where most
rational beings live -- in normal space -- not his
pot-hole we live in.

Kundalini "awakening" can lead someone to what is called the Gnosis where oneness is realised and you would call that a rather low grade state?



posted on Nov, 18 2013 @ 11:00 AM
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Another look at soul. Soul is the housing for spirit, something far more real, substantial and stronger than the illlusion hologram and different energies that are used for the schools, those energies are reshapable. They're reshaped by true Higher Ups/Consciousness/Spirit/Light Bodies. Light Bodies, again we can call this metaphor, but its akin to saying, upgraded soul or vehicle.

So on the various dimensions, I'm going to use this word to say, universes in different levels or grades, and requirement is for different soul forms, going up to more and more bells and whistles, ie abilities and we aren't there yet in being able to operate those "vehicles". Thats what the testing grounds are about, growing up.

This one, the tests are right in our face: planet of war and slavery, inequality and divisions. What should this be telling us. Would a Family live like this. The whole planet is divided in religions who mainly believe in harsh karma or a smiting god of various kinds, a murderer. Is there something wrong with our picture? What is Love? And its attributes?

So, soul is the vehicle for spirit in the universes.

In the various layers and dimensions, soul goes from extra fine an advanced down to the density of human form in this one, in the yucky gravity, and body is an extended part of soul in a sense. An extension of us.



posted on Nov, 18 2013 @ 11:06 AM
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Agreed...
NAMASTE*******



posted on Nov, 18 2013 @ 11:17 AM
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Itisnowagain

KellyPrettyBear
Humans are nearly always convinced, that their 'soul' is
ascending to a high spiritual state. But that 'soul' is not
even them.

What is 'them'?
Or should I ask you directly - what are you?


It's more a matter of balance than anything.

If you build a little life based upon ignorance and fear and corrupted symbols about Life, then you get a 'parasitic soul'. If you build a healthy interface with the larger 5d truth, then you become liberated.

Lots of details that can be known but it boils down to that.



posted on Nov, 18 2013 @ 11:22 AM
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NotThat
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How do you get rid of an attached soul or parasite if you have one?


Become honest and loving and to a fault; live for the moment and don't fear death overmuch. Rid yourself of lying corrupted symbols designed to deceive you.
After doing this you will start to feel free and feel like your genuine self.



posted on Nov, 18 2013 @ 11:27 AM
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Its all a matter of how you do it and why.
Kundalini magnifies everything already present in you. Enter into it with corrupted symbols and desires and it makes a parasite. Enter into it in purity and grace and you become liberated from the pothole; unless you stay here to help. But even then you are free.



posted on Nov, 18 2013 @ 12:08 PM
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I find it funny and ironic.

You tell us there evil spirit leeches that are of alien natures, and yet knowing how some of you think, believing makes it form into the physical.

Like UFO poltergeist or manifestation of the mind.

Got me wondering, all this awareness of the ever suckful Ra and his leechs are gaining strength right this moment with your awareness post.

Ironic really...

Not that I believe you. It kind of the opposite of Nirvana teachings.
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posted on Nov, 18 2013 @ 01:42 PM
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Its actually identical with noncorrupted nirvana teachings like some of the early ones. Only they didnt discuss the corruption the same way. But "hungry ghosts" from various flavors of buddhism is the same thing.

It's all the same to me whatever you believe or don't believe. I prefer that you be happy but how you manage that is entirely up to you.

Thanks for replying.



posted on Nov, 18 2013 @ 01:49 PM
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Oh one more bit of response since you did make a good point. Feeding energy to any of the other false gods like in religion dwarfs this little series of posts.

There are billions of people feeding 'the collective' with mainstream monotheistic religion.

At least by identifying the "enemy" we can stop feeding them. We actually feed the enemy less by being aware... not more.



posted on Nov, 18 2013 @ 04:10 PM
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talking abt hungry ghosts
chinese ppl loves to celebrate a festival for them every year (?)

peace.





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