forced aerial vaccination in oz

just when i was hoping things would maybe improve , what with more people becoming increasingly conscious, i was shocked, disgusted and disappointed to read this morning that "paxvax australia" has applied to the oz office of gene technology for a licence to conduct a clinical trial of a genetically modified live bacterial vaccine against cholera. this will be done by aerial spraying in 4 states.
to me this indicates there is still major insanity rife in our country and the world. each member of the population will have no choice in the matter except to express their feelings to the relevant office next january.
its a TRIAL, with no guarantee that babies or children, let alone adults, will be able to continue their present state of health. if this is permitted, it is further indication that government(al) leaders are total morons. it has the potential to be far worse than the decision by government to import the cane toad years ago to oz with subsequent death to local wildlife.

www.ogtr.gov.au...

preventdisease.com... l?utm_source=111513&utm_campaign=111513&utm_medium=email

They already poison our food and water...why not our air?

Ugh.

reply to post by orangutang


Can you please show where it says that it is aerial spraying? I looked at the link and didn't see that listed just trial sites and inoculations of 1000 children and adults.

this will be done by aerial spraying in 4 states.

Other than the claim of your somewhat biased source (preventdisease.com), do you have any support for this statement? It seems to directly contradict what the OGTR says:

The trial will involve the inoculation of approximately 1000 children and adults.

www.ogtr.gov.au...

This doesn't make much sense.
How can they be sure not to over or under medicate people when they spray it in the air?

I think the OP is mistaken here.

reply to post by orangutang


Maybe you should check your links before making a thread!!!

preventdisease a site that needs advertising to survive I wonder why they would post something that would guarantee hits , they are just like naturalnews they take real stories but edit before posting to get hits and you fell for it.

HOAX bin for this !!!

Umm, if you open the OGTR government link you provided and read it you would have seen this

PaxVax is seeking approval to conduct a clinical trial of a GM live bacterial vaccine against cholera. Once underway the trial is expected to be completed within one year, with trial sites selected from local government areas (LGAs) in Queensland, South Australia, Victoria and Western Australia. The trial will involve the inoculation of approximately 1000 children and adults. The applicant has proposed a number of control measures to restrict the spread and persistence of the GM vaccine and its introduced genetic material.

They aint gonna innoculate only 1,000 people in four states where approx 16,000,000 of us live by dropping it off a plane and spraying it on us..... Aside from the ludicrous notion that a plane is only going to 1,000 people in four states, there is also the logistics of the fact that these four states comprise an area about half the size of mainland USA..... So even if they did ever decide to spray something it would take a heck of a lot of planes and even more spray to cover an area that large.

Thread FAIL......

reply to post by Phage

having recently recovered from an attack of debunkeritis [you know where]
it's good that you point out the OP's lack of due diligence.

that said, what's your stand on using kids as guinea pigs for a genetically modified (GM) bacterial vaccine
for a disease that hasn't been reported since '77 in oz?
from the link provide in the OP and your post

The Office of the Gene Technology Regulator (OGTR) has received a licence application from PaxVax Australia Pty Ltd (PaxVax) for the intentional release of a genetically modified (GM) bacterial vaccine into the environment (DIR 126), which qualifies as a limited and controlled release under section 50A of the Gene Technology Act 2000 (the Act).

PaxVax is seeking approval to conduct a clinical trial of a GM live bacterial vaccine against cholera. Once underway the trial is expected to be completed within one year, with trial sites selected from local government areas (LGAs) in Queensland, South Australia, Victoria and Western Australia. The trial will involve the inoculation of approximately 1000 children and adults. The applicant has proposed a number of control measures to restrict the spread and persistence of the GM vaccine and its introduced genetic material.

PaxVax has indicated that a Clinical Trial Notification will be submitted to the Therapeutic Goods Administration, and that they will be applying to Department of Agriculture for a permit to import the vaccines.

Metaphysique

that said, what's your stand on using kids as guinea pigs for a genetically modified (GM) bacterial vaccine
for a disease that hasn't been reported since '77 in oz?
from the link provide in the OP and your post

Excuse me for butting in here, but I think the 1,000 people would have to be volunteers as is the case in all clinical trials. There is a genuine fear that with global warming et al affecting the world's climates that diseases like cholera will come back with a vengeance.

Look at Typhoon Haiyan and the mega destruction it caused - I'll bet cholera outbreaks will be a real concern over there right now.

wmd_2008
reply to post by orangutang

 

Maybe you should check your links before making a thread!!!

preventdisease a site that needs advertising to survive I wonder why they would post something that would guarantee hits , they are just like naturalnews they take real stories but edit before posting to get hits and you fell for it.

HOAX bin for this !!!

edit on 17-11-2013 by wmd_2008 because: (no reason given)

lol, no offense, but you've gone and shot yourself in the foot and may be banned soon.

hint: ATS HAS ADS
is everything posted here BS and the owners hoaxers/liars?

maybe you should edit hmmm?

reply to post by Metaphysique

I think clinical trials for vaccines against potentially deadly diseases are a good idea. Do you think it's better that people (and children) just take their chances with such diseases?
I don't see the relevance of the prevalence of cholera in the the testing locations. Not a lot of cholera in Vermont, Maryland, or Ohio either.

“Cholera continues to infect areas around the world that suffer from poor sanitation, poverty, and poor access to safe drinking water, particularly parts of the world like Haiti and South Asia that are recovering from recent natural disasters,” said Mitch Cohen, M.D., Professor and Vice Chair of Pediatrics for Clinical Affairs at Cincinnati Children's Hospital Medical Center. “For travelers visiting endemic areas of the world, where significant risk of contracting cholera exists, we are eager to start these clinical trials, which will determine if an oral, single dose of PXVX0200 provides protection against cholera after vaccination.”

paxvax.com...

1Angrylightbulb
reply to post by orangutang

 

Can you please show where it says that it is aerial spraying? I looked at the link and didn't see that listed just trial sites and inoculations of 1000 children and adults.

The Office of the Gene Technology Regulator (OGTR) has received a licence application from PaxVax Australia Pty Ltd (PaxVax) for the intentional release of a genetically modified (GM) bacterial vaccine into the environment (DIR 126), which qualifies as a limited and controlled release under section 50A of the Gene Technology Act 2000 (the Act).

Notice that it says released into the environment. Now that does not mean aerial spraying, but it does not rule it out either.

PaxVax is seeking approval to conduct a clinical trial of a GM live bacterial vaccine against cholera. Once underway the trial is expected to be completed within one year, with trial sites selected from local government areas (LGAs) in Queensland, South Australia, Victoria and Western Australia. The trial will involve the inoculation of approximately 1000 children and adults. The applicant has proposed a number of control measures to restrict the spread and persistence of the GM vaccine and its introduced genetic material.

Notice where it says approximately 1000. Also note that the "applicant" had to include measures to restrict the spread of the vaccine. I think the OP is on to something. Even if one bad source was used. Star and flag for you OP!

Metaphysique

wmd_2008
reply to post by orangutang

 

Maybe you should check your links before making a thread!!!

preventdisease a site that needs advertising to survive I wonder why they would post something that would guarantee hits , they are just like naturalnews they take real stories but edit before posting to get hits and you fell for it.

HOAX bin for this !!!

edit on 17-11-2013 by wmd_2008 because: (no reason given)

lol, no offense, but you've gone and shot yourself in the foot and may be banned soon.

hint: ATS HAS ADS
is everything posted here BS and the owners hoaxers/liars?

maybe you should edit hmmm?

Sorry but there is a difference ATS has ads correct but its not the same the 2 I mentioned go out of their way to EDIT legitimate reports and distort the truth to get hits.

Comprehension is not a strong point with you it seems!!!

DIR 126 - Notification of Application Receipt of licence application (DIR 126) from PaxVax Australia Pty Ltd for a clinical trial of a GM cholera vaccine Application The Office of the Gene Technology Regulator (OGTR) has received a licence application from PaxVax Australia Pty Ltd (PaxVax) for the intentional release of a genetically modified (GM) bacterial vaccine into the environment (DIR 126), which qualifies as a limited and controlled release under section 50A of the Gene Technology Act 2000 (the Act). PaxVax has indicated that a Clinical Trial Notification will be submitted to the Therapeutic Goods Administration, and that they will be applying to Department of Agriculture for a permit to import the vaccines.

www.change.org...

This sounds like a release into the atmosphere.

www.ogtr.gov.au...

reply to post by colddeadhands

Notice that it says released into the environment. Now that does not mean aerial spraying, but it does not rule it out either.

Perhaps you would like to read what section 50A of the Gene Technology Act 2000 says.

Do you know what clinical trials are? A random release of an oral vaccine by aerial spraying doesn't really constitute clinical trials.

The vaccine is "released" into the environment because the clinical subjects are part of the environment. Unless you expect the volunteers to volunteer to be indefinitely quarantined.

This sounds like getting a flu shot, not a good idea.
www.ogtr.gov.au...$File/dir126appsumm.pdf

Phage
reply to post by colddeadhands

 

Notice that it says released into the environment. Now that does not mean aerial spraying, but it does not rule it out either.

Perhaps you would like to read what section 50A of the Gene Technology Act 2000 says.

Do you know what clinical trials are? A random release of an oral vaccine by aerial spraying doesn't really constitute clinical trials.

The vaccine is "released" into the environment because the clinical subjects are part of the environment. Unless you expect the volunteers to volunteer to be indefinitely quarantined.

edit on 11/17/2013 by Phage because: (no reason given)

This right here is the truth.
"Into the environment" in this context means that they are going to introduce it to our biosphere through people who volunteer to be inoculated.
They are asking people do things to insure that they do not spread the vaccine, as it is a live bacteria

Hence the terminology. They wanna study the effects of this, in small numbers, and keep it contained in case there are adverse effects.

colddeadhands

1Angrylightbulb
reply to post by orangutang

 

Can you please show where it says that it is aerial spraying? I looked at the link and didn't see that listed just trial sites and inoculations of 1000 children and adults.

The Office of the Gene Technology Regulator (OGTR) has received a licence application from PaxVax Australia Pty Ltd (PaxVax) for the intentional release of a genetically modified (GM) bacterial vaccine into the environment (DIR 126), which qualifies as a limited and controlled release under section 50A of the Gene Technology Act 2000 (the Act).

Notice that it says released into the environment. Now that does not mean aerial spraying, but it does not rule it out either.

PaxVax is seeking approval to conduct a clinical trial of a GM live bacterial vaccine against cholera. Once underway the trial is expected to be completed within one year, with trial sites selected from local government areas (LGAs) in Queensland, South Australia, Victoria and Western Australia. The trial will involve the inoculation of approximately 1000 children and adults. The applicant has proposed a number of control measures to restrict the spread and persistence of the GM vaccine and its introduced genetic material.

Notice where it says approximately 1000. Also note that the "applicant" had to include measures to restrict the spread of the vaccine. I think the OP is on to something. Even if one bad source was used. Star and flag for you OP!

As another poster above pointed out releasing into the environment covers people. People are part of the environment. It is a live genetically modified bacteria so once inside a person could live for quite some time. They are going to take steps to limit the impact on environment so that might be something like asking the participants in the trial to not donate blood, see a specific doctor if the have some kind of issue.
Also saying that it doesn't rule out aerial spraying either is kind of bad logic. Nothing about the notice implies anything extra that might be used. They didn't mention planes, weather patterns, or aerosols. Following that logic they could also randomly select people at road side breathe tests and give them a live genetically modified suppository as a bonus.

reply to post by Phage

A [healthy] mothers tit is the best and only vaccination ever needed.

Why the use of GM bacteria as a component?


siiiggghh...

get a clue, phage, playing the fool/naif/stupid ill becomes you, and you're fooling nobody in that regard

nobody here believes you're that clueless.

so either please address the possibility of eugenics/sterilization/biowarfare experimentation/TH-pseudo-life agenda[s] that are the main concern of non-sheeple here,

or get off the pot.

after all, we don't see you volunteering yourself or your family volunteering, now do we?

oh, and seeing that we're demonizing making money, why is it always the case that big pharma's bottom line, and it's nazi warcrimelike conduct in upholding shareholder values, beyond reproach?

markosity1973

Metaphysique

that said, what's your stand on using kids as guinea pigs for a genetically modified (GM) bacterial vaccine
for a disease that hasn't been reported since '77 in oz?
from the link provide in the OP and your post

Excuse me for butting in here, but I think the 1,000 people would have to be volunteers as is the case in all clinical trials. There is a genuine fear that with global warming et al affecting the world's climates that diseases like cholera will come back with a vengeance.

Look at Typhoon Haiyan and the mega destruction it caused - I'll bet cholera outbreaks will be a real concern over there right now.

you are excused, no need to be shy, the waters fine.

1-the victims of the tuskagee experiment were volunteers, just so you know.
the real issue is INFORMED CONSENT how well informed are these future, if not already, lab rats of anything other than what they're being paid?

2- the only climate change going on is of solar origin and geo-engineering and weather war activities
don't drink the AGW koolaid it makes your opinions less credible.

3-of course there's going to be a cholera outbreak in the Philippines, "brought to you by..."

UN workers given a booster vaccine, and shedding live virus in their poop + current unhygienic conditions just like happened in Haiti, in the How the West was Won days it was gift blankets infected with smallpox.

do you truly believe such things are accidental?