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The secret origins of political correctness

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posted on Nov, 21 2013 @ 08:21 PM
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What about calling crimes as scandals for politicians and bankers?

Is this political correctness or something else?

What about using the word incorrect rather than wrong?

What about not guilty rather than innocent?

What about using the word understand rather than comprehend?

(wink, wink)




posted on Nov, 21 2013 @ 09:43 PM
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EarthCitizen07
What about calling crimes as scandals for politicians and bankers?

Is this political correctness or something else?

What about using the word incorrect rather than wrong?

What about not guilty rather than innocent?

What about using the word understand rather than comprehend?

(wink, wink)

Often, that's a matter of entomology...Saxon vs Norman.



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 01:50 AM
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What about not guilty rather than innocent?


There is actually something to that.

Our court system was set up specifically as a last line of defense against tyranny.
That is why the founding fathers created a court system that they spent a LOT of time thinking about.
Our court system was the real deal, and it still is underneath all the muck and excrement that all the lawyers have placed on top of it.

When you go to court the burden of proof is on the state. So the judgement, if rendered, is literally not guilty rather than innocent.
And the reason that this is can be traced to the fact that having to declare your innocence will only happen in a repressive regime.
When you go to court to prove that you are innocent then the burden of proof is on you.

This line is getting so freaking blurred. All mainstream news outlets use innocent instead of not guilty, unless they are speaking for the court.
We are getting so freaking bent over by lawyers.
They take the concept of using language against us, just like PC speak, but they take it to a whole nuther level.
And the sad thing is that most of them are pretty good guys/girls that don't even have a clue that they are part of a bigger system usurped and morphed from that which was meant to protect us from the state to that which is a mechanism of the state.



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 08:02 AM
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The origins of PC are not secret at all. It's always the same. It's the left just like it always is when there's something like this that seems to be nowhere and everywhere all at once. No one fully takes responsibility for it but if you know what to look for, you know exactly where it's coming from.



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 08:59 AM
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Earlier in this thread I mentioned Putin
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There is some seriously strange shift going on on planet earth.



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 09:28 AM
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The origins of PC, was a well intentioned one.
To try and show ignorant people, that using offensive words is not something to be done in a civilised society.
Some people do take it too far.
i dont understand the poster who was saying that waiters have to be called wait people, because it offended women. Why not use the correct term which would be waitress??



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 12:03 PM
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kyviecaldges

When you go to court the burden of proof is on the state. So the judgement, if rendered, is literally not guilty rather than innocent.
And the reason that this is can be traced to the fact that having to declare your innocence will only happen in a repressive regime.
When you go to court to prove that you are innocent then the burden of proof is on you.


Yes the burden of proof is on the prosecutor but this has no bearing that they use "not guilty" rather than innocent which they should. Declaring someone "not guilty" is subliminal programming to assume one is usually guilty until proven innocent.

One should be innocent until proven guilty. I have a huge objection with "not guilty" subliminal programming. Either one is guilty or one is innocent, there is no other way.



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 12:12 PM
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JohnnyCanuck

EarthCitizen07
What about calling crimes as scandals for politicians and bankers?

Is this political correctness or something else?

What about using the word incorrect rather than wrong?

What about not guilty rather than innocent?

What about using the word understand rather than comprehend?

(wink, wink)

Often, that's a matter of entomology...Saxon vs Norman.


I assume you mean etymology, not entomology which is the study of insects. Etymology is the study of word meanings.

Trust me there is subliminal programming going on. Are the elite capable of committing crimes rather than scandals? Scandals are usually below crimes and crimes seem to be reserved for those that are not socially connected enough.

When was the last time we heard someone call a president, mayor, governor, banker, rich person a goddamm criminal? Probably never! A criminal is someone who robs a convenience store with a gun. Also an example of subliminal racism and classism at work!



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 12:20 PM
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WilsonWilson
The origins of PC, was a well intentioned one.
To try and show ignorant people, that using offensive words is not something to be done in a civilised society.
Some people do take it too far.
i dont understand the poster who was saying that waiters have to be called wait people, because it offended women. Why not use the correct term which would be waitress??


Wait people is gender neutral. Waiter is male. Waitress is female.

Wait people is the plural form of wait person.
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posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 12:23 PM
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I could see using wait people, like in a staff meeting.
But on an individual basis, someone is a waiter or waitress.
that would be technically correct.
Although wouldnt you just call them serving staff, or customer facing staff.
Correct terms already exist without making up a new one.



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 12:46 PM
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What a GREAT thread. You have articulated what many of us already know but lacked the words to express.

IMO You hit the nail on the head. I would argue that the KGB picked up where the Nazis left off. Extreme leftism was of coarse the main tool of the Nazis in the early days in securing support for their movement.

People forget that they were Socialists.....and extremist progressives. They took a Germany which was prospering in many aspects much like the US was in the 50s and 60s and turned it up on its head. Suddenly everything which made Germany prosper and a world leader in many respects, even its democratic model where products of evil. The wealthy which were the engine of economic success became tyrants and the Jewish people were just in the wrong social class and the wrong socioeconomic time of progress.

Most people forget that Hitler has an EXTREME naturalist. Tree hugging, vegetarian....wimp.


FASCISM is the total control of every aspect of ones life. Thoughts, emotions, and of coarse actions. Progressive culture in the US is such a machine. You are told what to eat, think and do....or more to the point what you can not.....

American progressive culture and most socialist and all communist ideologies are fascist in nature.



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posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 12:49 PM
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I have heard the term serving staff quite often in the past.

I guess both wait people and serving staff can be used.



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 01:04 PM
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You couldn't be more wrong if you tried. Germany was prospering before hitler? Really? Wow you must have fallen for all the revisionist garbage of the allies and believe every single word of it.

Germany had extreme unemployment, had no colonies like all the western european nations did, had accumulated enormous debt because of the unfair reperations they had to pay to the allies because they had lost ww1, their economy was in shambles.

Hitler turned everything around but he was also a madman. He thought by conquering europe he would be able to make germany a powerhouse bigger than england, spain, france, holland, belgium. He would make germany great again, cancel the debt, get revenge for loosing WW1, do away with communism which he viewed as parasitic socialism, do away with undesirable such as jews and gypsies.

Nazism was the german flavor of national socialism which was very popular in continental europe after the monarchies dissolved. If it wasnt for this ideology we would still have had feudalism of the middle ages.

This goes to show that winners write history and distort it anyway they like. But of course people have no problem with the wealthy so I might be wasting my time in this thread. Bashing the poor and blaming PC on the left will get you many stars and flags.



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 02:01 PM
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tadaman

They took a Germany which was prospering in many aspects much like the US was in the 50s and 60s and turned it up on its head. Suddenly everything which made Germany prosper and a world leader in many respects


You think Germany was economically successful before HItler came to power? Hyperinflation, mass unemployment, vast debts, and industrial productivity at half what it had been in the 20s? You call that prosperity.

Hitler's measures led to full employment and rising wages (real wages went up something like 40% between '33 and the '38). A country that could barely feed itself became an economic powerhouse able to wage and nearly win a world war.



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 02:05 PM
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OpenMindedRealist

JuniorDisco
"(They) complain that they aren't allowed to be nasty to others based on race, sex or gender."


You demonstrate the big deception of political correctness. The declared goal is to prevent descrimination on the basis of minority status, but in effect it places people in a protected class due to race, gender, etc.



No it doesn't. "It" doesn't even exist outside the minds of people who want to continue with their entrenched advantages.

Why do you have a problem with people not being judged on the basis of their skin colour, sexuality or appearance? That's all that is being asked. Sure, the odd radical finds some weird axe to grind but usually

- it's massively overstated
- they are weird outliers



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 03:30 PM
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Thats your opinion.

Have you even read the German constitution before the Reich took over?

Do you know the particulars about the German economy BEFORE hitler took over, after WW1?

If you did you wouldnt have such a knee jerk reaction.

Bashing the poor? Pfft.

More propaganda.....



posted on Nov, 22 2013 @ 03:34 PM
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Yes....a power house.

Hitler didnt make the changes that led to Germany recovering from the reparations and massive loss of territory, he was in power when those changes took effect. They were the plan of the former government and took YEARS to make a reality.



posted on Nov, 23 2013 @ 04:11 AM
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Now...do we really want to start defining anything by its loony outriders? That really doesn't lend much credence to your central thesis.


Changing words/labels of serious crimes to babyfiy them is one of the central hallmarks of PC. Hence pedophiles become "the minor attracted", prositutes become "sex workers" and drug dealers become pharmacists. OK...that last one was a joke...but maybe it wont be in another 20 years.

Reframing things to make them sound more positive is fine, but it can also be abused to put a wolf into sheeps clothing and thus muddy public perception of what something is and means.
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posted on Nov, 23 2013 @ 05:01 AM
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Stormdancer777
Peanut Butter and Jelly Sandwich is Racist, Says Portland School Official



Thats PC at its most severe and humiliating. It is not only demeaning to whites but also to blacks who have suffered REAL racism.

PC is in the news every day. Just today I read in the newspaper that a school teacher in Buffalo was supposed to be fired because he complained about some children coming to school so smelly and unwashed that he didnt want to touch them. Instead of investigating the case, the PC-crowd quickly demands his head because in PC-world you are not allowed to say that anyone is smelly, obese, stupid, ugly, etc. Everyone is "equal" whether its true or not.



posted on Nov, 23 2013 @ 05:12 AM
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JuniorDisco
it is discriminating against people because of the way they look. Why would anyone think that was a good thing?


If I am unable to discriminate between angel and monster, I`ll soon be eaten alive. Life is no Junior Disco.

Ooops...I just said something very not politically correct...that there are angels and monsters...I hope the thought-Police doesnt break down on me.
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