reply to post by donlashway
Thank you, you've done a wonderful job and I appreciate it. You may always take all the time you want, I'm not going anywhere and I don't expect
I have to admit I was a little discouraged by your two links which had, in the upper left hand corner, the legend "ALEC EXPOSED," but I suppose
everyone has a bias in this issue.
Why folks have a problem with corporate prison industries?
-Jobs & Wages
Private employers can not compete with anyone using slaves. Slaves presented with all inclusive compensation packages including free health care,
dental, vision, clothing, utilities, housing, food, transportation, security, education and counseling sponsored by their state's taxpayers.
OK, I can buy that to an extent. But is it a significant effect? We've got, what, 2- 2.5 million prisoners? They can't all be working. Pick a
number, maybe half of them? Maybe a million for round numbers? How does that stack up against 11 million illegals, and only the Lord knows how many
Chinese and other Asians doing work for American companies for less than the "appropriate wage?"
Wouldn't those millions also have the effect of increasing unemployment and lowering wages?
The graph illiterates that indeed prison occupancy levels are dropping. At that rate it should only be a few hundred years until we return to
the percentages of incarcerated we had before prisons were for profit.
I think we have a difference here. We agree that prison rates went way
up. If I'm not misunderstanding you, you think it was because corporations came in, and I think the "War on Drugs" and tougher sentencing rules
were a public reaction to the perceived threat of increasing crime. Maybe we can find common ground here.
I think I will have the most difficulty explaining why anyone might not like lobbyist and political groups that do not disclose their
connections and supporters.
I'm a lot less excited about that now that I know the IRS will target groups and individuals on a political
basis. I'm also concerned about the efforts in Wisconsin to go after individuals who supported Governor Walker by petition.
Would you understand that some people still believe, a government by the people and for the people; not the corporations establishing profit
margins for the share holders?
I don't know if sentencing laws in the states are being controlled by Corrections Corp. of America, or even
ALEC. CCA spent a little under a million last year, and your article says ALEC spent $87 million, but that's to support 50 think tanks. That's
less than $2 million per state per year.
The group working to pass the gay marriage bill in Minnesota spent $2 million in a year, and ALEC has a lot of other issues on it's plate beside
prisons. I further suspect that ALEC isn't the only organization that has asked states for tougher sentencing, or has asked for more 2nd Amendment
freedom, or has weighed in on immigration issues.
Through ALEC, corporations have both a VOICE and a VOTE on specific state laws through these model bills. Do you?
Sure. Occupy Wall
Street, Tea Party, Libertarians, protests in Congressmen's offices, the list is lengthy.
I hope you can understand why people may not like exploiting others whether or not they deserve it.
There are many ways to say how you treat others effects everyone.
And here we're back to full agreement, thank you.
Now, the solution to underpaid workers producing products for American workers? Have corporations give more money to prisoners, so they're paid the
same as outside workers? Then why hire prisoners at all? And what do we do about illegals and Asians? I realize that's off the topic, but I think
their effect is far greater than the prison workers'.
I like your heart, we may be on the path to something good here.