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Has anyone sold their soul to the devil? (some questions)

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posted on Nov, 20 2013 @ 03:46 PM
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He isn't bothering you but still he is testing you?

Sounds like you have a love-hate relationship.




posted on Nov, 20 2013 @ 03:53 PM
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WarminIndy
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I think that if we really did look into how music does affect the human being, that it does reach a spiritual level, as indicated by the posters, if one wants to tap into a dark energy, then they could.

And believe me, I am not against anything creative. I'm a filmmaker, I use music in film editing all the time. And I listen to a lot of music. But believe me, after listening to some music, I have to take a break myself, because my mind can be so flummoxed from it. I am currently writing a film script and already getting the music rights for it. I chose some songs that I know fit with it, because I'm pretty smart about how music in film works. So no, I have no problem with creativity. But I also know that whatever I would choose in the soundtrack makes all the difference, because the audience makes the connection, even they don't realize it.

I found this song for my script and love it, even though it is a cover of Metallica Nothing Else Matters


But the energy you connect to in this does not evoke one to chopping the heads off cats, it kind of gives you the feeling of romantic intimacy. I would hope that a guy would rather dance with his girlfriend listening to this music, and that would come from tapping into that spiritual realm. It's more than just what he thinks, as a man thinks so he is. But if this captured my attention, then how do I translate that onto the screen? What is the message I am presenting?

But when you have people that do chop heads off cats, while blaring I Wanna Rock, then we are going to have to recognize there is power in music. That power comes from somewhere.



...and you are of the opinion that OT, Job and Revs (to name 3) would not perform the very same functions?...what generational demons do you think have been installed by these 'writers'?...what effect on the psyche do you think, that some 2000 years of this would do?

Å99



posted on Nov, 20 2013 @ 04:02 PM
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geobro
ooooo i thought this thread was about santa its satan the places you get to with dyslexia



vethumanbeing
Im am so tired of you snarkies; post two lines and abandon the thread, trying to egobased/balls derail; and these people are applauded with stars. They add no content whatsoever and are blatant distractions. OOOOO I thought the thread was about the Easter Friging Bunny, "innocently; how did I wind up here, I was looking for the fuzzy furry WAY off topic, toothfairy content". And that goes for you AlthonSavage as well.



giobro
mmm only trying to make light of a very dark and deep subject and bumping this for later . but then again bohoo bahaa


You just made my point, one line and one half promising better things to come from your mindspace. You have no idea the direness of such things spoken immediately do you? Bump or bounce (it can obviously wait as far as you are concerned--forgotten).


Geobro
o do me a favour mr i am channeling a voice and writing it down in volumes go tell that to a shrink they have medication that will help with the voices the subject of this thread was have you sold your soul to the devil not what you think of snarkies is that even a word go blow of in the rant forum if that is your thing or go worship a volcano


I NEVER EVER SAID I CHANNELED information. Thoughtforms are not voices (heard in the brainbox by a person speaking the kings English as you may think). They are gigantic ROTES that unwind and reveal information. They are geometric in form (much like an origami paperfold or a Snowflake). I know people that worship rocks in this area, they are 10 ton behemoths just sitting around on the ground; balanced on top of each other; and a small teeder todder of the earth would upset these sculptures of decomposed perfect granite 'eggs'. Do you have the name of a reputible psychiatrist that could help them in/with their delusions?
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posted on Nov, 20 2013 @ 04:16 PM
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akushla99
So we have heard from no-one who has 'sold thier soul to the devil'...and all the whispers under the scary blanket about what could be out there, has brought those that *love* the horror movie script with its invented villain into the fray to place the torch under thier chin to tell thier 'true stories' of horror and devilry...dungeons and dragons role-playing, dice-wielding urban legend crud.


And that no-one hasnt turned up yet to answer questions about its "SCARY UNDER THE BLANKET no flashlight or a way to illuminate its Pornographic materal" convictions (what a surprise). What is out there; beyond the love/horror story and the masked evil one? I am waiting for the "I have more scripts to sell to major studios" just wait I promise to reveal them!!


akushla99
So...who has? ATS has a large enough fanbase to draw some 'real' story from...surely...or do we just make crap up about famous people, who probably (rightly or wrongly) acquired talent and wealth through thier own hard work...and the claim of soul-selling, is nothing more than infused and steeped invidia?!


No kidding; 250,000 individuals to/would could draw any inference of satanic devotion or 'LOVE RECIEVED FROM SATAN (I sware to it HONEST!) and come forward (this is the question posed in the OP). As to if anyone actually sells their soul; would they know it in this life or bartered it away before incarnating. "Yes is this life I want to be ungodly rich and die of a drug overdose on my throne toilet". It makes me wonder.


akushla99
...and maybe that mortal 'sin' can be side-stepped with a casual swish of 'knowing the truth'.Anyone? Å99


The truth was in your byline at one point "Everything you believe..IS TRUE". I would say it this way; you make your destiny and all is allowed and I mean ALL Things (doesnt make you not culpible at some point; but hey this is all about God anyway and how It experiences itself THROUGH you as its puppet shill.
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posted on Nov, 20 2013 @ 04:26 PM
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I don't know, I read those books as well and I don't seem to be suffering any deficits from it.

But if you look at Job, it is a long conversation about what is man. That's really what it is about, what is man? What is God?

Job represents more than just having patience, because he wasn't very patient. But throughout, he wrangled with the concept of "what is my own mortality?" That's obviously something children would not understand. So, I don't think one should preach to children about Job. It is really a philosophical book.

Revelation is different thing altogether, because it is not philosophical as Job. But John sees things that are not really different than a lot of other prophets have seen, and not really different than other ancient stories that have an apocalypse. I think that while one might teach children about lessons in the Bible, certainly no one should expect children to suddenly understand what it all means. After all, little children are still wetting the bed.

Are you asking me if these books evoke a generational curse? I am not sure what you are asking here.

Revelation is replete with imagery and symbolism, much of what can only be understood by the people who know the symbolism, but there is some symbolism that is universal. That's called universal themes in film.

Revelation isn't for children, if grown ups don't understand it, then why teach it to children. Does the imagery evoke an emotion? Yes, it certainly does. People read the Bible and they do have an emotional response to it, if they hate it or disagree, then they toss it away. But people who see what they understand, sometimes fear is evoked. When I read Zechariah, I think that it is frightening that Zechariah saw the nuclear explosion and described it.

There would have to be power there, but I don't think people would look at Revelation and get the idea that they are going to be one of the horsemen. I have heard people claim to be one of the two witnesses. But if you are talking about the psyche, and generational, then you have to remember that most mainstream churches are not preaching about Revelation or Daniel. When it comes to Job, the same message of "patience" is always preached.

When I was young, Revelation and Daniel were just two books, I didn't read them because they were just not something I could understand. But I think maybe what you are proposing is that it's not the books per se, it's the way the books are interpreted. Do I want to drop the atomic bomb on people because Zechariah and Revelation says it will happen? Not me, but there are crackpots out there who just might.

But why would Charles Manson preach Helter Skelter and say the Beatles are the four horsemen of the apocalypse? It held some power to Charles Manson.

Obviously you and I aren't going to be greatly influenced if we remain objective. But we aren't going to let that power invade our psyche, but it does to some degree because our worldviews do change. So yes, there is power there, but in what direction are we pushing?

ETA: Read vethumanbeing, he has thoughtforms of scrolls. What do you think about his psyche? Where are his thoughtform scrolls coming from?
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posted on Nov, 20 2013 @ 04:37 PM
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The truth was in your byline at one point "Everything you believe..IS TRUE". I would say it this way; you make your destiny and all is allowed and I mean ALL Things (doesnt make you not culpible at some point; but hey this is all about God anyway and how It experiences itself THROUGH you as its puppet shill. Quote VHB

Sig was removed (as you know VHB) because brain-space contortionists could never inflex the sentence to read it correctly (doublespeak?!)...and then there is confirmed bias as mechanism, all the ready to erect palings onto rickety structures (or re-arrange deckchairs)...as happens when OP questions of the nature of 2nd, 3rd and fourth-hand (etc) weavings of God are posited as 'reasonable' shift&switch manouvres.


Å99



posted on Nov, 20 2013 @ 04:40 PM
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WarminIndy
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WarminIndy
VHB I would love for you to try to"turn my Biblical world" upside down. Do you think it's possible for you to even attempt it?
I always love a challenge, unfortunately you don't pose much of a challenge. Tell me what you know beyond your Wendy O. Williams Plasmatic "programming". You're funny.


Oh but you dont understand. My funny is not your 'struck your funnybone ha!ha!' Mine is more of the accidental banana peel slip 'ironic' in nature/subtle and sneaky. Why would I want to alter the beauty of your indoctination. Why would you even mention the fact I could threaten your belief systems unless you suspected I could. What is a Wendy O. Williams Plasmatic Programming; that sounds suspiciously like a Scientology 'shock therapy clearing the human of the imperfections of repeated non-perposeful behaviors (self masterbatory) ' 3rd finger joint belted/wired in and attached to the GOD machine of truth; got to be a celebrity and the dollar amounts rise if you want the real truth. Its up to you.

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posted on Nov, 20 2013 @ 04:49 PM
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ETA: Read vethumanbeing, he has thoughtforms of scrolls. What do you think about his psyche? Where are his thoughtform scrolls coming from? Quote WII

Intact and precise...and from the same sources (as VHB has explained, several times)...my sister speaks my language, but many others in my family have comprehension issues. I am gratified that we are all approaching the bullseye target, in our own good time and speed of ascent.

Å99



posted on Nov, 20 2013 @ 04:50 PM
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akushla99
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vethumanbeing
The truth was in your byline at one point "Everything you believe..IS TRUE". I would say it this way; you make your destiny and all is allowed and I mean ALL Things (doesnt make you not culpible at some point; but hey this is all about God anyway and how It experiences itself THROUGH you as its puppet shill.



akushla99
Sig was removed (as you know VHB) because brain-space contortionists could never inflex the sentence to read it correctly (doublespeak?!)...and then there is confirmed bias as mechanism, all the ready to erect palings onto rickety structures (or re-arrange deckchairs)...as happens when OP questions of the nature of 2nd, 3rd and fourth-hand (etc) weavings of God are posited as 'reasonable' shift&switch manouvres.
Å99


Id replace it with this (your own words) only one tiny modification: "The weavings of God are posited as a possible 'UN-reasonable' shift and switch manouvre". Perfect in its imperfecton (more words that add to more confusion so much more fun) directed to those that are to be or potencially be in/of a misunderstanding; the POINT to be is ON PURPOSE or by the design of the statement itself accidental mayhem. Me, I always prefer the trickery componant as it involves outsmarting the ONE that is certain what it heard was true.
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posted on Nov, 20 2013 @ 04:51 PM
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WarminIndy
reply to post by rickymouse
 


He isn't bothering you but still he is testing you?

Sounds like you have a love-hate relationship.


No, there are two different Entities there, the Devil and Satan. The devil is deceit and Satan is the tester of your worthiness. I often wonder which way is a pass or fail in Satan's test. I suppose it depends on which side you want to be on.



posted on Nov, 20 2013 @ 05:10 PM
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WarminIndywhyareyoustillthere
He isn't bothering you but still he is testing you?
Sounds like you have a love-hate relationship.


(Regards rickymouse rejecting satan once and continueing trials of 'freewill battles')

Just a thought; isnt this what its all about, the struggle over the human having been given 'freewill' by Lucifer? I can see an MMA fight at the Ballator, next event "Satan and Lucifer battle IT OUT" Satan wants the human soul for/in eternity, Lucifer wants the human to continue to have the opportunity to think for itself. GOD IS THE REFEREE. IT is also the trainer of both combatants (should be a fair fight). Should be mentioned God is also the PROMOTER/event designer.

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posted on Nov, 20 2013 @ 05:12 PM
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All you need is a copy of a magical grimoire, the Lesser Key of Solomon will do. Summon your demon and off you go. It won't end well and you'll regret doing it, maybe forever and that's a long time. Faust was based on a real person.



posted on Nov, 20 2013 @ 05:45 PM
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vethumanbeing
WarminIndy
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WarminIndy
VHB I would love for you to try to"turn my Biblical world" upside down. Do you think it's possible for you to even attempt it?
I always love a challenge, unfortunately you don't pose much of a challenge. Tell me what you know beyond your Wendy O. Williams Plasmatic "programming". You're funny.


Oh but you dont understand. My funny is not your 'struck your funnybone ha!ha!' Mine is more of the ironic banana peel slip 'ironic' in nature/subtle and sneaky. Why would I want alter the beauty of your indoctination. Why would you even mention the fact I could threaten your belief systems unless you suspected I could. What is a Wendy O. Williams Plasmatic Programming; that sounds suspiciously like a Scientology 'shock therapy clearing' 3rd finger joint belted in and attached to the GOD machine; got to be a celebrity and the dollar amounts rise if you want the real truth. Its up to you.


Funny person you are.

OK, what's my indoctrination?

And why do you think I am suspicious that you could? Oh great challenge that wasn't seen as a challenge...I gave you a chance to convince me, but you didn't see it. Darn, the window of opportunity is slowing shutting.

And you don't know Wendy O. Williams and the Plasmatics? See, good references are always lost on those who don't know. And I thought you knew these things. But alas, you must be very young. Or I must be too old.



posted on Nov, 20 2013 @ 05:49 PM
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All you need is a copy of a magical grimoire, the Lesser Key of Solomon will do. Summon your demon and off you go. It won't end well and you'll regret doing it, maybe forever and that's a long time. Faust was based on a real person.

the rennes le chateu mystery in france is more interesting if you view what was inside the church door and according to reports at the time sunnier found scrolls in the church during restoration and grave stones with weird foreign markings that went missing one wonders what was on them and where the priests money came from



posted on Nov, 20 2013 @ 05:53 PM
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try doctor nick i hear he has space in his book and doctor murray will be back soon .
keep taking the tablets in the mean time ooooommmmm
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440 mhz all the way thank satan for that



posted on Nov, 20 2013 @ 06:15 PM
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WarminIndy
vethumanbeing
WarminIndy
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WarminIndy
VHB I would love for you to try to"turn my Biblical world" upside down. Do you think it's possible for you to even attempt it?
I always love a challenge, unfortunately you don't pose much of a challenge. Tell me what you know beyond your Wendy O. Williams Plasmatic "programming". You're funny.



vethumanbeing
Oh but you dont understand. My funny is not your 'struck your funnybone ha!ha!' Mine is more of the ironic banana peel slip 'ironic' in nature/subtle and sneaky. Why would I want alter the beauty of your indoctination. Why would you even mention the fact I could threaten your belief systems unless you suspected I could. What is a Wendy O. Williams Plasmatic Programming; that sounds suspiciously like a Scientology 'shock therapy clearing' 3rd finger joint belted in and attached to the GOD machine; got to be a celebrity and the dollar amounts rise if you want the real truth. Its up to you.



WarminIndy
Funny person you are. OK, what's my indoctrination?
And why do you think I am suspicious that you could? Oh great challenge that wasn't seen as a challenge...I gave you a chance to convince me, but you didn't see it. Darn, the window of opportunity is slowing shutting.


You must realise this takes some scholarship (in preparation) your not going to take my singular words for it are you?
The Hebrew prophetic period in THAT time was of what is explained as the 'Exodus' from Egypt. What you fail to realise is that this Exodus, was inflamed in the story telling (this was an oral tradition that still remains within the Pharasee tradition today). Who knows what happened as they carried the "Chosen People' archetype (personally Id have caged them). What I can tell you is that Egypt was a 6th dimensional Sirian construct (out of Atlantis 12000 bc) (no the pyramids cant possibly be that old) and were very non-judgemental (this was a civilization that popped into being instantly and is not the first). Were they oppressive regarding todays standards? I dont know Look at Rawanda or Cambodia for a more recent study of social dynamics and recreation reference. The 'HIBIRU" (hebrews chosen people) could leave anytime they wished and why not, their God ruled and named them as such the Nibiru=Hibiru=Hebrew. Anu would have had to have been their initial god 400,000 years before Yahweh.


WarminIndy
And you don't know Wendy O. Williams and the Plasmatics? See, good references are always lost on those who don't know. And I thought you knew these things. But alas, you must be very young. Or I must be too old.


No clue. Time frame? of Blondie, Psychedelic Furs, Duran Duran, Elvis Costello, Souxie Sue and the Banshees, The GoGos, Naked Raygun, The Effigies, Bad Brains, Sex Pistols, Murphy's Law, Operation Ivy, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Live, Chris Issacs, Black Flag, Insane Clown Posse, System of a Down, Bjork, Bonifer? How does an eternal spirit experience age (has to be experienced delicately in a decomposing physical body minute by minute).
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posted on Nov, 20 2013 @ 07:15 PM
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geobro
try doctor nick i hear he has space in his book and doctor murray will be back soon .
keep taking the tablets in the mean time ooooommmmm
.
440 mhz all the way thank satan for that


Nope not sending anymore letters to Santa (northpole) dead letter US postal service office. Dr. Murray does not have nearly the amount of 'milk' (codenamed Propafol) to satisfy my gingerbread (its the holidays) cookie dunking addiction. I dont have to take the tablets orally, they are unfolded and revealed to me in secret fashion (never asked for but its someones gift to me and NON- RETURNABLE as in have the ability to re-gift them) WhOOPS maybe thats just what Im doing (I am always outsmarting myself or IT ME). 100hz+104hz (perfect hemi-sync)does not equal 440hz that would be 220 either ear or administered doubled wavelength wearing a wet sponge hat over a shaved head strapped to a wooden chair in Louisiana (GO THEE NOW AS A JUDGEMENTED SPIRIT TO MEET YOUR MAKER). I have a feeling its going to be Bozo the Clown for some.
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posted on Nov, 20 2013 @ 07:31 PM
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Why would god allow the devil in the first place? was that not the first mistake?
i don't get it, even a human knows you get rid of garbage, you don't keep it around smelling up the place.

so is god dumb or is it playing a game....

Would that not make god a a-hole?



posted on Nov, 20 2013 @ 07:40 PM
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vethumanbeing
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giobro
ooooo i thought this thread was about santa its satan the places you get to with dyslexia


vethumanbeing
Im am so tired of you snarkies; post two lines and abandon the thread, trying to egobased/balls derail; and these people are applauded with stars. They add no content whatsoever and are blatant distractions. OOOOO I thought the thread was about the Easter Friging Bunny, "innocently; how did I wind up here, I was looking for the fuzzy furry WAY off topic, toothfairy content". And that goes for you AlthonSavage as well.



giobro
mmm only trying to make light of a very dark and deep subject and bumping this for later . but then again bohoo bahaa


You just made my point, one line and one half promising better things to come from your mindspace. You have no idea the direness of such things spoken immediately do you? Bump or bounce (it can obviously wait as far as you are concerned--forgotten).
o do me a favour mr i am channeling a voice and writing it down in volumes go tell that to a shrink they have medication that will help with the voices the subject of this thread was have you sold your soul to the devil not what you think of snarkies is that even a word go blow of in the rant forum if that is your thing or go worship a volcano


...as if we don't hear enough of the 'voice chanelling' from God (taken as gospel-without-questionable-substance)...I always thought 'personal friends' were available...whenever, to answer all the 'very dark and deep subject matter'...no questions without notice though...

Å99
i live in a place of many chickens and could muster a feast or that talk but you will understand i come from a place also that taught men gospel ? a stranger in the night



posted on Nov, 20 2013 @ 07:54 PM
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Why would god allow the devil in the first place? was that not the first mistake?
i don't get it, even a human knows you get rid of garbage, you don't keep it around smelling up the place.
so is god dumb or is it playing a game....
Would that not make god a a-hole?


If you could conceive God as a Garbage Bin/receptical, yes; allows for all occurances to happen in its name (it created the devil/satan as well as others YOU) the question is who picks up the garbage, sorts it and determines what it is (recyclable)? Is it malformed thought? Is it misdeeds? Is it a dictator garbage that took freewill unto itself/its zenith and murdered thousands upon thousands of its own people it was entrusted to protect? Is it in fact always been playing a game with ITSELF (you and I as its innocent participants think circus performers. just never revealed this). Its time the human rebelled against this very strange entity; or at least proclaimed a freedom from IT. Of course the Idea of a Satan would gum up the works, ITS plan formulated. The truth is God is Satan (same being balanced yinyang) and its time the human stood up for itself and said NO MORE MANIPULATION as God created all things for ITS pleasure and much of that by my observation is UGLY.
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