[several gratuitous pics of famous people - omitted here]
Go ahead, use your imagination, but don't judge too harshly now, it might bite you before we're though since this is about their
in heaven, something that could just as easily apply to anyone, especially if you happen to be a bit of an attention whore or glory seeker yourself,
and who isn't at some level from time to time since we all want approval and to be recognized in our heart of hearts whether we admit it or profess
to the contrary or not it's a fundamental human desire or need.
To fully understand the premise and basis of the OP Title Statement - "Why famous (and "powerful") people may have difficulties, in Heaven." - You
will have to read the following two pieces of writing (below), although I will try to nutshell it for you if I can, but you won't really
truly understand what I really
mean, fully and completely, and thus won't be able to access the full weight of the potential for great and
- unless you do take the time to read the "Sermon" or presentation by C.S. Lewis called "The Weight of Glory", and then the
relatively short story "The Great Divorce".
The Weight of Glory, by C.S. Lewis (as ATS Topic, by NAM aka Bob)
The Weight of Glory - pdf (free!)
This story is a great and utterly hilarious allegory, about a bus trip "vacation" from hell to heaven, with wonderful insights. It's a very
enjoyable and extremely humorous, if not gravely humorous, read. I hope you like it as much as I did.
The Great Divorce, by C.S. Lewis - Amazon
Ok, in a nutshell...where to begin. (you've really got to read the suggested material to "get it")
The future "glory" we are promised in the hereafter is based on the idea of that of acceptance and recognition, or "fame with God" in being known,
as we will come to know.
Thus, if one was used to having lots of attention (or "power") as part of their makeup or personality then they might become an attention whore and
a glory seeker (or power mongerer) so when they get to heaven
and they find that the glory is evenly distributed
, to everyone, by
the work of Christ and the love of God - why,then, some among them might have some serious questions when they reach heaven or the pearly gates or
whatever you want to call it, along with a real dilemma - you can imagine how it might go...
...I hereby invite some of you to consider a certain famous or powerful person, and from their POV, pose some serious questions to your heavenly
representative, or greeter, who's been sent to you to orient you and try
to welcome you, into Heaven - and you'll see what I mean, especially
if you accept the reading assignment.
Feel free to pose the questions from you famous person's "avatar" POV, but only answer from the POV of the heavenly representative/guide, if
you've completely the reading assignment, that works. And having done the reading already I will try to refrain from playing everyone's guide until
you also grok
with me, to leave the fun for other people as to how you would try to help this famous
person on earth (was) adapt to the new reality, which also just so happens to be the REAL one.
Barack Obama, Barry, if you read ATS, you are welcome to participate as well.
It's better this way, so that you can discover what is really meant by the title, than for me to try to spell it out for you, and hey we'll see how
it goes.. can always make another post to clarify a little more if needed, regarding the kind of "difficulties" and dilemmas a famous or powerful
person might have on reaching heaven, in terms of you know fitting into the new society, which is perhaps even larger than this one we now inhabit,
just very very different in so many ways as C.S. Lewis so artfully and craftilly reveals in his Short Story
"The Great Divorce"
Later, as the thread progresses, I would like to tell you a great joke, about fame, power, and the whole entire "world system", as it relates to
this issue and phenomenon of "glory". It might surprise you.
One more thing - important note: As Lewis suggests at the end of "The Weight of Glory" it is essential that we take EVERYONE much more seriously in
order to enjoy "true merriment" so this thread is NOT about just holding up parodies of people to ridicule. For this to work as planned we simply
MUST therefore take these very people we might have in mind as seriously as we do ourselves and one another, and trust me on this it only make it all
the funnier when we do. So again, it's not about just laughing AT people like Lady Gaga, Barack Obama, or God forbid, Justin Bieber or Miley Cirus,
no as you'll see if you run through the reading material, that as we ponder the difficulties these people might have in heaven, that we are also
considering ourselves at the same time, particularly those among us who might have a propensity for attention or glory seeking or in my own instance a
slight case of narcissistic, megalomaniacal, grandiosity - but don't worry under the full "weight of glory" it brings me to tears! LOL
This has at least the potential anyway to be a very fun and perhaps even a hilarious thread, if you'll participate, and I promise to keep my own
vainglorious showboating out of it and try to avoid killing my own thread as a result, because that kind of thing doesn't tend to go over very well,
whether here on earth or, presumably, in heaven above!
NAM, aka Bob (in all humility).