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Is religion a mental disorder?

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posted on Nov, 23 2013 @ 10:20 AM
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have they changed...?

short answer, no


LOL!! Lame. The Buddhist tradition changes all the time. You presented sources...?

ONLY ANSWER: no





posted on Nov, 23 2013 @ 10:21 AM
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Eryiedes
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Dude...you were just proven wrong.
Ditch the bravado and move on.

-Peace-



proven wrong? can you elaborate...

I'll stick with the Greek on the fundamentals of reality



posted on Nov, 23 2013 @ 10:30 AM
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Buddhism and science have increasingly been discussed as compatible, and Buddhism has entered into the science and religion dialogue.[1] The case is made that the philosophic and psychological teachings within Buddhism share commonalities with modern scientific and philosophic thought. For example, Buddhism encourages the impartial investigation of Nature (an activity referred to as Dhamma-Vicaya in the Pali Canon) — the principal object of study being oneself. Some popular conceptions of Buddhism connect it to discourse regarding evolution, quantum theory, and cosmology, though most scientists see a separation between the religious and metaphysical statements of Buddhism and the methodology of science.[2] In 1993 a model deduced from Jean Piaget's theory of cognitive development was published arguing that Buddhism is a fourth mode of thought[3] beyond magic, science and religion.[4]


Buddhism and Science Wiki Introduction
There ya go.

Start there, and work your way through the references. And while you're doing so: Have fun. Learning is FUN!!

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posted on Nov, 23 2013 @ 10:31 AM
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wildtimes
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have they changed...?

short answer, no


LOL!! Lame. The Buddhist tradition changes all the time. You presented sources...?

ONLY ANSWER: no



actually western theistic philosophy are the "creators" of the scientific method... we use it, it took us to space, and put that ATS on your screen from something called the internet.



posted on Nov, 23 2013 @ 10:33 AM
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It seems BlueMule was the originator of the comment I mistook for yours...you simply quoted them and for that I owe you an apology.
However your comment aluding that Buddhists are static is simply ignorance personified.

-Peace-



posted on Nov, 23 2013 @ 10:33 AM
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actually western theistic philosophy are the "creators" of the scientific method...

Actually, no.

But, believe what you want. Lack of investigation does not equal "truth". But I'm not wasting my breath on your bigoted, ignorant insistence.



posted on Nov, 23 2013 @ 10:34 AM
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wildtimes
There ya go.

Start there, and work your way through the references. And while you're doing so: Have fun. Learning is FUN!!

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but they're still spinning prayer wheels and exhibiting spontaneous internal combustion... explain that

Buddhism is not the religion of science, nor is Atheism.


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posted on Nov, 23 2013 @ 10:35 AM
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Eryiedes
However your comment aluding that Buddhists are static is simply ignorance personified.

-Peace-

Buddha found emptiness/no thingness to be the true state.

Can emptiness/no thingness change?

All forming is inherently emptiness.
Emptiness is form.



posted on Nov, 23 2013 @ 10:36 AM
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That's because it is a philosophy and NOT a religion or science.
Maybe that's the source of your malfunction?

-Peace-


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posted on Nov, 23 2013 @ 10:38 AM
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wildtimes
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actually western theistic philosophy are the "creators" of the scientific method...

Actually, no.

But, believe what you want. Lack of investigation does not equal "truth". But I'm not wasting my breath on your bigoted, ignorant insistence.

What is truth?

Socrates developed the 'Socratic method' which will remove untruth - it is the original scientific method of enquiry.



posted on Nov, 23 2013 @ 10:40 AM
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gads i have arguments with myself on this topic all of the time, some of it driven by the horrible prospect of people killing each other over religion or the lack thereof. i view myself as a sort of isolated pocket of determination to uncover as much as i can, from as many sources as possible, and then prove to myself, yea or nay, what each thing means. at one point, i was about to throw in the towel on the creation chapters until i discovered they weren't about the original creation but a re-creation of prior lifeforms from before the ice age. that kinda freaked me out but after that, things just started falling into place at an increasingly rapid pace.

in effect, i do not believe science and religion are truly wandering down irretrievably, separate boulevards but merely taking different paths to the same information.
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posted on Nov, 23 2013 @ 10:40 AM
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Pictures like that are not really proper to post for all to see.
Next time use an external link and warn others of the graphic nature.
Kids DO come here y'know?
As for the nature of the image I could also post a recent image of an identical scene happening in DC just recently and that person wasn't a Buddhist...he was a Christian.
I could also post pictures from the ME with similar protests and they are not Buddhists either.
I could also post images from similar protests in Scandinavia and they certainly weren't Buddhists...need I go on?

-Peace-


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posted on Nov, 23 2013 @ 10:41 AM
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Tell that to Sisyphus.

-Peace-



posted on Nov, 23 2013 @ 10:46 AM
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Eryiedes
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That's because it is a philosophy and NOT a religion or science.
Maybe that's the source of your malfunction?

-Peace-


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wow learning is fun... a religion is a philosophy.

Buddhists have numerous wrathful deities... more than can be counted.

have you seen that huge 3 level deity statue in the town where the Dali Lama live and hangs out?

here's a few...


Yama, the God of Death;
Mahakala, the Great Black One;
Yamantaka, the Conqueror of Death;
Vaisravana (Kubera), the God of Wealth;
Hayagriva, the Horse-necked one;
Palden Lhamo, The Goddess;
Tshangs Pa or ‘White Brahma’;
Begtse, the God of War.


end of the Buddhist discussion... please stay on topic.

so that leads us back to the Greek, the cradle of western civilization and philosophy.



posted on Nov, 23 2013 @ 10:48 AM
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Eryiedes
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Pictures like that are not really proper to post for all to see.

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oh I'm sorry... are you offended by others religious beliefs?

yes hoist them high upon your shoulders... honor this philosophy.

any belief can say they have someone who claims to be what they are when in fact they are not... the Buddhist seem to have the majority of them, Islam also.


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posted on Nov, 23 2013 @ 10:55 AM
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I'm not religious and if you'd read any of this thread you'd know that by now.
It's called courtesy and if you refuse to display it you should find another thread to post in because that behavior will not be tolerated here.
Deviate once more and your posts will be removed by the ATS Mods.
Is that clear enough or have I offended you?

-Peace-


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posted on Nov, 23 2013 @ 10:57 AM
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Certainly no educated person today would claim that the Chinese or the Japanese had no aptitude for science, or that Islamic science depended entirely on borrowings from Greece. Every undergraduate who has taken an introductory course in the history of science knows that the centers of innovation in late-fourteenth-century mathematical astronomy were not Paris and Oxford but Seoul and Baghdad. That is not the result of comparative study, but of research by specialists on one civilization at a time.

Comparing Greek and Chinese Philosophy and Science

Univ of Penn

An interesting essay on the differences between Greek and Chinese "styles" of 'investigation and discourse'. I see that debate was valued in Greek culture more than in Chinese.

Thanks for the correction.



posted on Nov, 23 2013 @ 10:58 AM
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SisyphusRide

Buddhists have numerous wrathful deities... more than can be counted.


But their concept of deity is quite different from our Western concept of deity. A Buddhist deity is a personification of an energy, not the source of an energy.

And they all boil down to monism.

"All the Buddhas and all sentient beings are nothing but the One Mind, beside which nothing exists." -Huang Po


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posted on Nov, 23 2013 @ 10:58 AM
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for someone who claims to be the bringer of truth... you sure like to play suppressor of it!

this is a mental condition we are beginning to understand in the scientific community known as psychiatry, and the study of human behaviors - sociology.
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posted on Nov, 23 2013 @ 11:00 AM
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this is a mental condition we are beginning to understand i the scientific community known as psychiatry and the study of human behaviors - sociology.

Oh, wow...
are you a psychiatrist or sociologist?

Perhaps you could be a bit more 'expository' in your provision of "information". I understand big words, and long sentences, btw.

As it stands, you are simply trolling and not contributing to the discussion in any way.



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