posted on Nov, 16 2013 @ 08:56 PM
reply to post by 8675309jenny
It's really obvious you've never flown a plane. So here's a suggestion for you. Take a broomstick, sit in a computer chair, with a blindfold on,
spin it around a few times, and when you stop, keep the broom stick in a vertical position. Try that for 10 seconds, stop, and without moving the
stick, take the blindfold off.
That is almost like what it's like flying when you have no horizon to reference. Try it, and come back and tell me how easy it is to recognize a
stall when you're blind.
As for the Asiana pilots, they did exactly how they should have. The mistake was in the autopilot (a BOEING aircraft may I add, so that really
negates the whole Airbus argument). Most pilots in that same situation believed that the autothrottle would have held the programmed speed, and
gotten into a similar situation. Add in a new training captain and a pilot that's transitioning, and you have mistakes.
I really suggest you try flying a few times before you start bashing pilots for making mistakes.
I admit I'm no pilot, but my roomate and best friend for years was an instructor and I do have a few hours logged in a 172. (yes I realize, that's
the equivalent of staying in a Holiday Inn last night
However as stated, the AF pilots had artificial horizons and they could have realized they were going much slower than they thought if they referred
to the ground speed (I realize that could differ from airspeed by as much as 100kts) Either way, if they should be going 520kts and theyre actually
going 300kts something is not right. Honestly, they probably never even checked their groundspeed.
I think maybe commercial pilots are forgetting some of the basics becasue they deal with the automated side of things so much. I used to run a race
team and even on modern complictaed cars, to fix any engine issue you first refer to the basics (Fuel-Air-Spark). I think a lot of these newer pilots
don't even think to question the fundamentals sometimes. Airspeed is everything.
As for Asiana, as far as I understand it, if both pilots pull back on the stick in a 777, the autopilot turns off. And if they hadn't pulled back they
actually would have avoided the massive tailstrike.
As I've read though the autopilot was already off at 1,600ft and maybe it was entirely an autothrottle issue.
I know I'm out of my depth in this discussion, but regardless of your field, to be really good at what you do, you should have a solid understanding
of the fundamentals which can save your ass in an incident.
My roomate was killed by an executive pilot trying silly moves in a Bonanza. The two guys in back swore they would have been dead too if he hadn't
grabbed the controls and did his best to save it last minute.
edit on 16-11-2013 by 8675309jenny because: (no reason