Exclusive: US blocks publication of Chilcot’s report on how Britain went to war with Iraq

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posted on Nov, 15 2013 @ 08:01 AM
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I came across this article and find it totally incredible that the U.S Government are able to stall a U.K Government inquiry.

The Chilcot report has not been published due to the U.S not allowing certain information which relates to conversations with the then U.S President George Bush and U.K Prime Ministers Tony Blair/Gordon brown.




Washington is playing the lead role in delaying the publication of the long-awaited report into how Britain went to war with Iraq, The Independent has learnt.





Although the Cabinet Office has been under fire for stalling the progress of the four-year Iraq Inquiry by Sir John Chilcot, senior diplomatic sources in the US and Whitehall indicated that it is officials in the White House and the US Department of State who have refused to sanction any declassification of critical pre- and post-war communications between George W Bush and Tony Blair.


This could be a potential embarrassment for David Cameron, because if he decides to allow the authors to go ahead and publish, it could effect the so called 'special relationship' with the U.S. If he doesn't, it confirms that the U.K are nothing but the lap dogs of the U.S IMO.

I shall be following this to see how it plays out


www.independent.co.uk...




posted on Nov, 15 2013 @ 08:23 AM
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Well considering the U.S governments history with this sort of thing its not really too suprising. especially disclosure, (with various things) let alone anything having to do with the war in the middle east yakno?



posted on Nov, 15 2013 @ 09:19 AM
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I wouldn't call the UK lapdogs to anyone. The United States and United Kingdom have been close allies ...which is a word with shifting meaning these days...since World War II and prior, for that matter.

It isn't caving on a thing like this, but professional courtesy and respect between allied nations. I don't much care for the outcome here, any more than anyone else. The secrecy for it's own sake has gone beyond abusive and just has to stop.

However...Next week it could well be an American leak about to blow a British operation or program which the Pentagon then quietly buys out or squashes by London's request. It's happened before and will happen again. Nothing nefarious in that, except the idea of anything being quashed in a free society in the first place, of course. (Hard to get past that little detail, regardless of nationality)



posted on Nov, 15 2013 @ 09:49 AM
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It's an inquiry to determine the lawfulness of the U.K's involvement in the Iraq war and therefore any information being withheld on the instructions of any country flies in the face of justice.

Of course the main player, Blair, will probably be begging the U.S to stick to its guns here. Blair was certainly Bush's lap dog and as a consequence misled the House and Country by fabricating the 45 minutes from a chemical attack by Iraq. Dragging us into an unlawful invasion and making him a war criminal.

I feel we have the right to know what was being discussed between both parties, particularly if it exposes the lies that we were told. I doubt it does in all fairness, but there have been millions spent on this inquiry and for the U.S to potentially deny us the truth, really grinds my gears.



posted on Nov, 15 2013 @ 09:58 AM
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The modern day nations are only a creation of a much more powerful group calling the shots behind the scenes anyway .One will lie and the other will swear to it .We should always keep this in mind .I guess my confirmation came when Stephen Harper's Speech was almost verbatim to the Aussies leading up to the war .

Another fact is that the X prime ministers of Canada get a nice retirement cheque from the US Govt .They are all part of the same group but with diffrent coloured suits .



posted on Nov, 15 2013 @ 10:07 AM
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I understand what you are saying, but this sort of action just confirms it. In the mean time we are expected to just accept this, when in reality it does nothing for building confidence in either country.

Do we accept this is the way allies work or would you rather the truth prevails? Shall we just close our eyes, ears and mouths in the hope that everything we are told is in the interests of our security?

It appears all nations are spying on each other, allies included, in order for their indiscretions to used against them in times where big decisions may have to be made.

Okay, nothing to see here, when's the next reality show starting?
edit on 15/11/13 by Cobaltic1978 because: (no reason given)



posted on Nov, 16 2013 @ 10:21 AM
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We are obviously not privy to the real truth going on behind the scenes .Its only through state sanctioned inquiries that we can put together something that points to the truth .Like the 911 commissions report if looked at realistically not for what they said but what they failed to look at or give a good explanation to the events .Canada a few years back had The Royal Commission's Report on Aboriginal Affairs .Its a very large document and actually had many recommendations in it to address the state of affairs . Well the thing was put on the shelf and is only collecting dust as far as it being something to work with by politicians .The state of affairs are still stuck in the status quo despite the millions of dollars spent to look into the affair .

I am not saying we should except it but I think we have to come to expect it from our Govt's.I guess until the whole scheme crashes and some sort of a new arises we can expect the same old same old .More and more all the roads that lead to Rome and their Jesuit order that is embedded into our modern societies will finally crash .The sheer numbers in dollars seem to point to it crashing . The sooner the better as far as I am concerned .Let the winner take his ball and all the debt owed to him home and let us try and build something different .I am both retired and tired of the same old same old and really dont have the ambition to contribute to the present system .



posted on Nov, 16 2013 @ 10:29 AM
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They sealed Bushes 911 commission testimony, too. NSA can spy on the world ,cameras can watch our every move, but all roads that lead to little George are blocked.

Because they lead to BIg Geo---"snip".



posted on Nov, 16 2013 @ 10:36 AM
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The special relationship ended when Obama sent Winston Churchill's bust back to the UK embassy in Washington.
nothing to add to that really, that action speaks volumes to me.



posted on Nov, 16 2013 @ 10:43 AM
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Simply publish the Tony Blair side of the conversation. It wont be difficult to infer whats on the other end and most people are so poorly disposed towards bush the younger they will be harder on him than if they saw what he said.

If the UK Prime Minister is seen to obstruct justice on the say so of the state department it wont go down well and will be a golden gift to both the Scottish Nationalists and Labour.



posted on Nov, 16 2013 @ 12:17 PM
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Won't make for legible conversation. Blair and Bush are but errand boys. The conversation would go something like this:

"Well my ________ says we should do this."

"My _________ wants to wait for this and this".

"But _________ says if we do that, then this will happen before ________ and ________ can cooperate on it."

And so on. Every sentence only a message from others. Complete incompleteness. Thats why they can't go there. Going there would elevate the investigation out of the basement (where they want to keep it). Thats why we have presidents and PM's. To cover for the real PTB. I think the mob calls them frontmen.



posted on Nov, 16 2013 @ 12:26 PM
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Yes, unfortunately I think you are spot on with that. It probably would implicate a few others and they wouldn't want to expose the real puppet masters would they?

This whole inquiry has been a bit of a joke from the outset, now it's beginning to look like a proper circus with the clowns performing currently. Honk Honk!!!



posted on Nov, 16 2013 @ 12:29 PM
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It probably would implicate a few others and they wouldn't want to expose the real puppet masters would they?

Which effectively ends the chase. But also lets us know (by default) we are close to the mark.



posted on Nov, 16 2013 @ 03:00 PM
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Nicely put. You are probably on the money there :-)



posted on Nov, 16 2013 @ 03:14 PM
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What else is funny is that the sealed 911 commission testimony and those phone calls between Blair and Bush would be the smoking gun. How stupid can you gbe to talk on the phone? The mob isn't even that dumb.

But being separated by an ocean makes it hard to communicate face to face. They think they are immune because of their status and scramblers. One day someone is going to leak that s*** and I can't wait.

Must be on their minds all the time.

"Damn dude, we talked on the phone."

Ever watched Casino or Good Fellas?



posted on Nov, 16 2013 @ 03:28 PM
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I really hope it does get leaked and I hope it's when they least expect it. I'd love to see that inane grin of Blair's, wiped right off his face.



posted on Nov, 17 2013 @ 03:15 PM
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intrptr
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What else is funny is that the sealed 911 commission testimony and those phone calls between Blair and Bush would be the smoking gun. How stupid can you gbe to talk on the phone? The mob isn't even that dumb.

But being separated by an ocean makes it hard to communicate face to face. They think they are immune because of their status and scramblers. One day someone is going to leak that s*** and I can't wait.

Must be on their minds all the time.

"Damn dude, we talked on the phone."

Ever watched Casino or Good Fellas?


They don't use the regular telephone line. They're supposed to have a direct line to each other, securely encrypted, and bypassing the regular phone network so it can never be jammed. Diplomatic channels are also supposed to be confidential so they have the freedom to speak frankly.



posted on Nov, 17 2013 @ 04:52 PM
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They don't use the regular telephone line. They're supposed to have a direct line to each other, securely encrypted, and bypassing the regular phone network so it can never be jammed. Diplomatic channels are also supposed to be confidential so they have the freedom to speak frankly.


But undoubtedly both sides recorded the conversations as the transcripts from the calls are the damn things that the U.S are using to stall the publication of the report.



posted on Nov, 18 2013 @ 03:36 AM
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There's too much at stake for those that feed from the trough,wouldn't surprise me if our government have asked them to stall it.no one will be made accountable for there mistakes as they are untouchable.



posted on Nov, 18 2013 @ 03:36 AM
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There's too much at stake for those that feed from the trough,wouldn't surprise me if our government have asked them to stall it.no one will be made accountable for there mistakes as they are untouchable.





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