I have studied the comet ISON and I think that it is the remains of a magnetar. If it hits the sun i

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SSHHH!

fellow shaman, you are speaking blasphemy to these people.

stefan molyneux dedicates an entire episode of his series "the fascists that surround you" to the sociopatic WORSHIP of and belief that diplomas, credentials, and bonafides determine whether one "knows" a subject/is an expert.

when it's actually the other way around.



not defending the OP either, just taking issue with the judgmental authoritarian arrogance he's being subjected to.

reply to post by ParovStelar


we may be on the same page,, but they won't listen:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
quote
"On April 1st Argentine astronomers posted a snapshot along with a sensationalist article"
unquote

Are talking about this

"Wednesday, June 16, 2010 12:00

Spanish Astronomers Claim Dwarf Sun Beyond Pluto

Scientists at places like NASA and famous observatories have deflected inquiries about the discovery for a few years now, mainly because they feared being associated with these "fringe" theories. But like it or not -- it has happened. Well... According to a team of Spanish artronomers who call themselves the StarViewer Team.
The group made the rounds of all the news web sites in the past two weeks, claiming they discovered something very significant. It's almost twice the size of Jupiter and just beyond our furthest planetoid, Pluto. Although it's not a planet, it appears to have planets or large satellites encircling it. It's what astronomers call a "brown dwarf star" and its official name is "G1.9+0.3".

I already posted a pic of g1.9+0.3 (see above )

G1.9 was a Sun which went Super Nova,,,,,,,,,,,G1.9+0.3,, is a "piece" of that Super Nova.

G1.9+0.3 is a Brown Dwarf.

G1.9+0.3 is NOT Elenin ,, nor is Comet Elenin a Brown Dwarf,, the OP is correct.

Hope this may clear up some misunderstanding between the two.
edit on 7-6-2011 by BobAthome because: G1.9+0.3 is headed our way,, ie "this direction" (See Temple1 missle strike for diversion prep.)

So your saying its not a brown dwarf but a Magnetar,, wouldn't compas needle's start too , follow this magnetar?or too early? not in the induction field yet?

curiuous.
me.

reply to post by Metaphysique


Gave you a star as I completely agree but the OP has demonstrated that he is no scientist as he does not understand what a discovery is in the field of science. His claim is just a claim a theory without a logical path that others can verify or an experiment or a way to test it is not a scientific fact, discovery is the publication (or dissemination) of the process that enables others to get to the same conclusion and is validated by consensus (non opposition) of his peers (or sadly a very active and visible subgroup of them that can subvert the consensus premise, this can be even be needed to unblock the process due to unreasonably support of the claim, but at best one would rate it best then as a probability not a factual discovery)...

ParovStelar
I am not an engineer. I am an astrophysicist,

Where and when did you get your degree?

ParovStelar
We can absloluetly not let that quark matter reach our sun.

It will not, my invisible pink unicorns are on standby to kick the crap out of it if it looks like hitting the sun.

BobAthome

Scientists at places like NASA and famous observatories have deflected inquiries ...

What many seem to not understand is that NASA and "famous scientists" aren't the be all end all of astronomical observation. Nor are they the sky and space police.

What many would seem to entirely fail to understand is that a great many NON-NASA astronomers book time slots on equipment around the world, some of that hardware even belonging to NASA.

Additionally, there's an entire thriving community of Amateur Astronomers constantly combing the skies, and or obsessing over their own niche observations.

There are zero laws preventing anyone from building and using as large a telescope as they can afford to observe anything and everything possible with any collection of privately owned and operated equipment. Anyone is thus able to make any observation, but, for any observation to be accepted in the Astronomical community, those observations need be verified and validated by others.

There is no conspiracy over ISON.
The only thing spooky about ISON are the same folks that pop up on every single conspiracy website for every comet that gets any kind of media attention, making fantastic, unfounded, and entirely invalid claims for whatever reasons.

The next big comet that comes around, we'll see the very same thing happen. This predictable trend is so prolific, and so predictable, it's more a miracle we've not had more Heaven's Gate style suicides with each and every single comet.

OP is as much an astrophysicist as I am a major league baseball player. Just because you watch some youtube videos and read some ebooks does not make you something you are not.

Laughable quote from the OP

ParovStelar
I have studied the comet and astrophysics on the internet, youtube, e-books etc..

Ever stepped inside a library? or used a telescope (radio or otherwise)? Doubtful

c'mon get real, so basically you have no credentials to speak, just watched a bunch of doom porn videos and websites. OP is probably still in middle school, and never in his life has ever viewed radio telescope data, or even understands what he is looking at when seeing x-ray and gamma ray burst data.

OP go spread your doom porn elsewhere, no one is going to take your bait here.

ParovStelar
I have studied the comet ISON and I think that it is the remains of a magnetar. If it hits the sun i am afraid that it will unbalance all of the sun electric field and perhaps even cause it to start spinning on itself very fast and lack slowing down nuclear fusion at its core andgiving away to its on gravity causing a redgiant. I have studied the comet and astrophysics on the internet, youtube, e-books etc.. and am pretty sure that we absolutely need to destroy that cpmet before it reach the sun.

a) if it was a magnetar we would have detected it decades ago.
b) if you're that worried tell NASA.
c) destroy it how?

reply to post by ParovStelar


There are several members with advanced degrees in various hard sciences herein.

With your studies you've undoubtedly used some form of mathematics, no? Astrophysicists such as yourself make their living with math of a rather high order...

Light us up, sir. Let's see your proofs. Pretend we're a peer review board...

The old saying: Extraordinary claims (this certainly qualifies), require extraordinary proof.

Provide them.

A Magnetar is basically a variation of a Neutron Star which is a very small, but very dense object that is the remains of certain types of Supernovas.

Like a Neutron Star, a Magnetar will have a typical radius of about 12 kilometers, and have a 1.4 to 3.2 solar masses (meaning that it has 1.4 times to 3.2 times the same mass as our sun).

Such a dense and massive object traveling through our solar system would be disaster.....and would be something spotted right away due to how it would affect the orbits of our planets, and even pull on our sun itself. We would not have to wait for it to hit our sun (which it wouldn't actually hit our sun, it would pull on it) for bad things to happen. They would already of been happening by this time (IE orbits of the planet's shifting, and as close to the sun as ISON is, it would be pulling material from the sun in a stream).

Take a look at this video simulation I did of the effects a Magnetar would have, using the same path as C/2012 S1 (ISON), and I gave it only 1 solar mass (same mass as our sun, which is smaller than a Magnetar).........and as any stargazer or amateur astronomer can tell you, all of the orbits of our planets, and the sun itself is in the correct place. In otherwords: C/2012 S1 (ISON) is NOT a Magnetar:

(For those that can, this video is in 1080 HD, and can be watched full screen)



Actual link to video

reply to post by eriktheawful


Very cool - great job - thanks for doing the work and posting it!

Puts me in mind of the Pvt. Hudson character in "Aliens":

"Game over man! We're fuc#'d...." etc...

Obviously we would be well and truly screwed in such an event...

reply to post by eriktheawful


Nice video. I think this thread should be labelled Magnetard.

reply to post by eriktheawful


I did some calculations as to what to expect if ISON were composed of collapsed matter and were to interact electrically, magnetically and gravitationally. Tomorrow is the big day when it passes closest to Mercury.

Check it out and let me know what you think!
www.hsv.com...

reply to post by ParovStelar

Hello like is said there is a solution . We have to destroy it now

Have you recently watched Armageddon?

reply to post by BobAthome

we may be on the same page,, but they won't listen:

You may want to turn the page.

reply to post by larrfull


" Mercury."

Composition: " Mercury The smallest planet in the solar system, Mercury bears a strong resemblance to Earth's moon. Like the other three terrestrial planet, Mercury contains a core surrounded by a mantle and a crust. But Mercury's core makes up a larger portion of the planet than others in the solar system, hinting at a chaotic beginning"



Mercury is very close to the Sun and has no substantial atmosphere. ... Venus and Earth are similar in size, composition, and mass.

well it will be interesting indeed too notice any effect/affect.

indeed.

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turn the page...,, Time is the Great Page Turner of us all,, weather we ride it out,, correctly,, and wisely,, is dubious.

I did get a good look at ISON this morning despite the low angle and the bright moonlight. It has really brightened in the past few days for sure. Then I took a look at Mercury. I'm just a casual, amateur observer but in the past mercury could only be barely resolved in my 6" refractor but this morning it looked pretty big, and very bright. Could be normal but it looked abnormal to me. I got some photos and will analyze them later today. I'm really looking forward to hearing about what others saw this morning...

ParovStelar
I have studied the comet and astrophysics on the internet, youtube, e-books etc..

Well I'm convinced by your sources, looks like we're all going to die.

reply to post by eriktheawful


I read somewhere I think that a thimble full of matter from a magnatar would weigh something like a 100,000 tonnes?
Or have I got that wrong and should have looked it up somewhere.

What weight would that give it at a size of just about 3 miles in diameter? And surely it would have at least made Mars have a wobble, maybe even a full out dance about a bit?