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Russia in the Middle East: Return Of The Bear

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posted on Nov, 14 2013 @ 04:48 PM
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Like father, like son.
Did we ever really make the break?





posted on Nov, 14 2013 @ 04:54 PM
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I actually found that little dissertation of his funny,
he is usually is the strong silent type.

Also, dont think he is much for debates either.


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posted on Nov, 14 2013 @ 04:58 PM
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undo

nafta was the death nail in detroit. and how did we get nafta?


Clinton, of course. Same 'courtesy' he gave repealing the Glass Steagall Act.
That was the harbinger of the financial crisis.

And to think that folks have not had enough of the Dynasty yet
that they would vote for Hilary.

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posted on Nov, 14 2013 @ 05:18 PM
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Interesting bit here about The Saudis financing a very recent
purchase of Russian MIG-29 fighters for Egypt.


Saudi Arabia needs a replacement for the Pakistanis; and Egypt is
the only choice. Large cash grants to Pakistan over many years have
cemented those bonds of mutual dependents. Saudi Arabia has been
generous as well with Egypt through the decades of Mubarak’s rule
and with El-Sisi without receiving much in return. Now, both are in
need and Egypt has debts to repay; and those debts are increasing
by the billions.

Within a few days of the reduction of aid by the U.S.
to Egypt, the Egyptians signed an agreement with Russia
to purchase fifteen billion dollars in military equipment
that includes MIG-29 fighters. By financing the purchases,
the Saudis are demonstrating to the Egyptian how important
they are in Saudi plans and are sending a message to Washington
that the separation has begun


oilprice.com...

Now, trying to find what The Saudis told the U.S. as of late,
I thought they were breaking us off?

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posted on Nov, 14 2013 @ 05:32 PM
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burntheships

undo

nafta was the death nail in detroit. and how did we get nafta?


Clinton, of course. Same 'courtesy' he gave repealing the Glass Steagall Act.
That was the harbinger of the financial crisis.

And to think that folks have not had enough of the Dynasty yet
that they would vote for Hilary.

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now what would a democrat like clinton have in common with socialists or capitalists?
it's really easy to see it once you see the game repeated a few times. a handful of global capitalists
are surreptiously forcing socialism on the world, and keeping all the lucrative contracts for themselves. then the people are told -- look at those evil capitalists, capitalism sucks -- socialism is better.

create the problem, offer the solution.



posted on Nov, 14 2013 @ 05:46 PM
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undo
a handful of global capitalists
are surreptiously forcing socialism on the world, and keeping all the
lucrative contracts for themselves. then the people are told -- look
at those evil capitalists, capitalism sucks -- socialism is better.

create the problem, offer the solution.


Undo, spot on again.
Very insightful. A highly visible example of this
is The Clinton Global Initiative.

There are many more, but it seems people fall for this
hook line and sinker...oh those 'evil' capitalists.




posted on Nov, 14 2013 @ 06:28 PM
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undo

burntheships

undo

nafta was the death nail in detroit. and how did we get nafta?


Clinton, of course. Same 'courtesy' he gave repealing the Glass Steagall Act.
That was the harbinger of the financial crisis.

And to think that folks have not had enough of the Dynasty yet
that they would vote for Hilary.

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now what would a democrat like clinton have in common with socialists or capitalists?
it's really easy to see it once you see the game repeated a few times. a handful of global capitalists
are surreptiously forcing socialism on the world, and keeping all the lucrative contracts for themselves. then the people are told -- look at those evil capitalists, capitalism sucks -- socialism is better.

create the problem, offer the solution.


Fabian Economics.

Fabian Socialists.

And, the Basel Committee inside the Bank for International Settlements.

The Federal Reserve as well as most NWO central banks follow the Basel Accords.

And, I think Saudi Arabia is aligning with Russia. Probably to get away from the U.S. Dollar soon.

They know a joke when they see it !!



posted on Nov, 14 2013 @ 08:38 PM
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xuenchen

And, I think Saudi Arabia is aligning with Russia. Probably to get away from the U.S. Dollar soon.

They know a joke when they see it !!



Good point Xue! Russia is making that move also.



posted on Nov, 14 2013 @ 09:04 PM
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Bears are known to hibernate. I don't know why anyone is so shocked a modern world nation is beefing up it's military. The US just never stopped, why should anyone else. The whole world isn't American.



posted on Nov, 14 2013 @ 09:51 PM
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Tis true, while I would take American any day over
being a New World Orphan.



posted on Nov, 14 2013 @ 09:53 PM
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St Udio,

Thank you for the lesson in prophecy! I was wondering if you
could expound on your comments about this deception?

Much appreciated! Thanks.


St Udio
there is a great deception taking place to associate modern Russia with the End-Times 'Bear' Empire



posted on Nov, 14 2013 @ 10:55 PM
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Not trying to shoot down the US, here. Every country has it's flaws, I'm just personally not shocked that Russia is still a major military power, and is making significant steps to coming back on the seen as the global giant it once was.



posted on Nov, 14 2013 @ 11:07 PM
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Hijinx
I'm just personally not shocked that Russia is still a major military power,
and is making significant steps to coming back on the seen as the global giant it once was.


Yes, and agreed it is only logical, and to be expected really...
while at the same time realize I do not admire Russia's
government model. They have some interesting tech stuff I will say...

Personally, I am for every nation having sovereignty unto itself,
while being a good neighbor.




posted on Nov, 14 2013 @ 11:11 PM
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burntheships

MrSpad

Russia can not compete with the West in quality and is losing the cheap weapons market to the Chinese.


This is a very pertinent issue, and even if Egypt thinks it can have both,
I highly doubt that. And further, how would the systems integrate?
Russian design vs Western MIC.

Will be interesting to see what happens here.




Russia is just Egypts fall back. They want US weapons and backing which is why the state of emergency suddenly ended. I expect elections will not be far behind and US aid will follow.



posted on Nov, 14 2013 @ 11:17 PM
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MrSpad
They want US weapons and backing which is why the state of emergency suddenly ended. I expect elections will not be far behind and US aid will follow.


Perhaps, time will tell. The previous relationship between the U.S. and Egypt was
very beneficial for both countries, not to mention it did provide some checks
and balance in the ME.

With any of the U.S. previous presidents, I would have expected something
totally different. With this POTUS, its a wild card, who knows what he is
really up to, or his handlers and their agenda.



posted on Nov, 14 2013 @ 11:42 PM
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You should read this thread.

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Nov, 14 2013 @ 11:48 PM
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Hijinx
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You should read this thread.

www.abovetopsecret.com...


Yep, did that yesterday and commented, it is actually
fairly plausible. With Snowden in Russia, it is hard to anticipate
just what inside info he may have, and already leaked.

The one thing about that I think is altered from
reality, it is not Barack acting alone he must have some
one pulling his strings. And just where is Old Joe Biden hidin?



posted on Nov, 15 2013 @ 06:04 AM
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it's really easy to see it once you see the game repeated a few times. a handful of global capitalists are surreptiously forcing socialism on the world, and keeping all the lucrative contracts for themselves. then the people are told -- look at those evil capitalists, capitalism sucks -- socialism is better. create the problem, offer the solution.


Excellent deduction.


Well put-never thought about it that way. Since we are bound and determined to have the Hill for 8 years I wonder if her experience as Secretary of State has changed her mind on Socialism.

What did Maggie Thatcher say :" Socialism is great until you run out of money"



posted on Nov, 15 2013 @ 06:30 AM
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onequestion
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Of course putin does sambo.

Maybe obama should do jiu jitsu


I think Obama's talents lie more in oragami...he's pretty good at rearranging the constitution isn't he?



posted on Nov, 15 2013 @ 07:30 AM
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One wonders if the world wants a repeat of the Soviet Union? Russia returning to a major world power as before? Under what pretext?

More Iron curtains?



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