'Maria Divine Mercy', 'Joseph Gabriel', 'TheWarningSecondComing' etc etc

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posted on Nov, 14 2013 @ 08:29 AM
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This is why I literally cyber SCREAM at posters here when they keep posting crap from these type of sources. Frauds. Fakes. Money making schemers. Fake 'holy names' to hook the sincere but gullible suckers who become blind cult like followers.

The Catholic Church has declared Maria Divine Mercy to be a fraud, but common sense told everyone that she was a fraud right from the start. Now we have the real names and occupations of the frauds who sucker people out of money and time and faith. Yes .. out of their faith. These frauds have created a cult following of people who become blind and deaf to anything other than what these frauds pump into them. They do this by faking messages from heaven, 'messages' full of doom porn that will fall upon unbelievers but spare the believers of the 'messages'. Those who follow the messages are supposedly specially chosen and blessed while those who dare to expose the messages as frauds are 'fighting against God' and are evil, without faith - that according to the cult messages.

So please, ATS ... if you see anyone posting information ('messages from heaven') from 'Maria Divine Mercy' or 'Joseph Gabriel' or 'Trumpet Publishing' or 'thesecondwarning.com' ... keep this information in mind. Do your best to wake the person up and get them to understand that you aren't 'evil' for providing the truth about their source of information. In the past I've tried - unsuccessfully - to provide common sense information and always been greeted with 'you are fighting God' or 'you have no faith' ... that kind of blind cult like rhetoric. But maybe, someday, we'll be able to get through to the deluded cultists ...

Meet the frauds behind 'Maria Divine Mercy', 'Joseph Gabriel', Trumpet Publishing, TheWarningSecondComing.com and Culturelink

'Maria Divine Mercy' is really Mary Carberry, 58, of Dublin, Ireland. She runs a P.R. campaign business under her maiden name of Mary McGovern. She was a follower of the Irish "medium/psychic" Joe Coleman. He also claimed visions of Mary and would charge for his 'psychic' information. She and her PR business promoted both him and his book (yes, he was selling books). It was while pushing his book that she first claimed to be a heavenly visionary herself. She said she could confirm Colemans claims because she was also a visionary. (circular logic). Within a week of stating this, she completely cut herself off from Coleman never to contact him again, broke off on her own and started her own scam - thewarningsecondcoming.com.

At this time, Carberry was in financial difficulty. She and her husband started an An e-commerce initiative company called 'Culturelink'. It got AOL financial backing. I can't tell you what it does .. I haven't figured it out and I can't find it online. But it made enough money that it pulled Carberry (Maria Divine Mercy) out of bankruptcy.

In the mean time, Carberry (Maria Divine Mercy) put her 'messages' together into books to sell. (no surprise there, right?) Coma Books sells the messages.


Coma Books shares the same address as Trumpet Publishing Ltd, formed by Sarah Carberry [majority interest] and Breffni Cully, 60. A blogger has identified Cully as the same Joseph Gabriel who conducted and spoke at MDM workshops in Canada and the US during late summer/fall 2013, while associates made cash-only book sales. If true, the camera-shy Cully - recording devices and photos were forbidden from workshops – would have reason to change his identity to conceal his business relationship with Carberry that would link her to the visionary, Maria Divine Mercy. So, we can connect Mary Carberry to Sarah Carberry to Trumpet Publications to Breffni Cully to Joseph Gabriel to the visionary MDM.

Sarah no longer owns Trumpet Publishing. In her place is Heinrich Martin Roth, 69, of Koln, Germany. Roth maintains German-language online book sales for…the visionary messages of MDM as contained in the Coma Books-published Book of Truth! So, we connect Mary Carberry to Sarah Carberry to Trumpet Publications to Heinrich Roth to Coma Books to the visionary MDM.

Coma Books and Trumpet Publishing Ltd are located at Block 4, Harcourt Center, Harcourt Street, Dublin, which is also the same identical contact address for TheWarningSecondComing.com, the Maria Divine Mercy Website. It’s a small world.


More information at the link provided.

Catholic rumor control says that Dublin Archbishop Diarmuid Martin has assigned an Irish exorcist priest exorcise Carberry ('Maria Divine Mercy'). That speculation may be true (she needs it, IMHO), but it can only be speculation because the Catholic Church would NEVER divulge that kind of information.

For more reading -
My ATS Thread - Quick Guide to False Popular
'Seers' and "Apparitions"


My ATS Thread - It's Official 'Maria Divine Mercy' Declared a Fraud by the Catholic Church
Maria Divine Mercy officially declared HERETICAL by Slovakian Conference of Bishops - May 9, 2013

All believers, who perhaps out of ignorance began to believe the messages mentioned, and please urge them to leave these heretical teachings and not spread them.

On this matter, I was obliged, in order to highlight the purity of Catholic faith, obedience and unity with the Holy Father, and for the sake of salvation of your souls.

dedicated to Lord V + Sečka Stephen, Bishop of Spis




posted on Nov, 14 2013 @ 09:15 AM
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Ant different really to the Pentecostal churches offering Gods amazing blessings re, finances and healing for all.
Different from a Calvinist demanding God only chooses some
Christianity is full of fraudsters, its only the gullible ignorant, the lazy who get sucked in.



posted on Nov, 14 2013 @ 09:42 AM
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The greatest persecution will be inflicted by Christians upon Christians
Saturday, November 2nd, 2013

Thank you so much for revealing these wonderful messages to all the fine people here at ATS. Had you not mentioned them I am sure very few here would even even have heard of them.

Here's the latest of her warnings - ironically she speaks of the great dangers presented to ordinary Christian believers by none other than other allegedly 'well intentioned' Christians.

[See also - another great site for important and very reliable prophecies of our time is - Caritas of Birmingham - ]


The greatest persecution will be inflicted by Christians upon Christians
Saturday, November 2nd, 2013 @ 20:30

My dearly beloved daughter, I must urge all of God’s children to join in union and pray for My Church on Earth.

My Heart heaves at this time, for there is great hatred being shown to those who are practicing Christians. The persecution of Christians will continue in all countries and this includes all those who have, at this time, the freedom to practice their homage to Me. The greatest persecution will be inflicted by Christians upon Christians. The scourging of My Body on Earth will be at its worst from within, as brother will turn against brother and sister against sister. You will soon see the declaration of the new prayers, which will be introduced by the new liturgy.

See also - another great site for important and very reliable prophecies of our time is - Caritas of Birmingham -

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posted on Nov, 14 2013 @ 10:25 AM
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FlyersFan
"The Catholic Church has declared Maria Divine Mercy to be a fraud..."

Man, talk about the pot calling the kettle black!

I appreciate your candor by the you using the word "cult" when regarding this topic --- it's a spot-on term. Guess you can just add Maria Divine Mercy to the ever-expanding list of cultists!

Anyone who claims to be a "psychic"... well, that's just a Red Flag in my opinion. People who usually follow "psychics" for personal gain... well, those people are the unfortunate gullible's. And it's also so sad to watch the predators at work --- because most succeed at finding their prey.

Any *corporation* has one objective: to secure financial gain at whatever the cost --- then turn a profit. Marketing Religion is no different. It's a sad state of affairs that cults are still popping up so late in our civilization's existence, and people still fall for the whole snake oil sale.


Send me money, send me green
Heaven you will meet
Make your contribution
And you'll get a better seat
~James Hetfield

If Jesus were as real as the Book says he was, then he's probably standing high on his Cloud, arms folded --- looking down and commiserating at the very sad state that his children have allowed themselves to become --- and that the unscrupulous meat puppet predators are still roaming around in full force selling that Oil!

When will all the deception end!



posted on Nov, 14 2013 @ 10:39 AM
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ValdoVonz
Thank you so much for revealing these wonderful messages to all the fine people here at ATS.

I hope you are being sarcastic. I can't tell.

Had you not mentioned them I am sure very few here would even even have heard of them.

Actually there are two or three people who have posted from these frauds ....
It's unfortunate, but true.


See also - another great site for important and very reliable prophecies of our time is - Caritas of Birmingham -

Sarcasm ... right? I hope so ....
That's another cult, except its even worse than 'Maria Divine Mercy'.
That cult fleeces people for their life savings ....
ATS Thread - Cult Watch - Caritas of Birmingham, Alabama USA



posted on Nov, 14 2013 @ 11:40 AM
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As you know, God never permits a negative without some positive coming out of it.

In answer to your question - Yes, I was being a mite sardonic, but not all the way to derisive. It was actually an attempt at getting your attention, which it did. I think it a good thing to find the positive in these so-called visionaries whose prophetic utterances are sometimes rather difficult to digest - even for the most forgiving of us believing Christians, of which I am sure you are one. God allows such situations and of course He doesn't interfere with the free will intentions of said 'seer' or self proclaimed visionary. So, regardless of the veracity of certain 'messengers' who God may have chosen, and in whom He may have placed His trust - they sometimes do betray that trust. But that does not always diminish the spiritual value of the experience - especially in God's eyes. For example, the spiritual value of such a place as Medugorje, trumps and overrides any and all 'ill, mistaken, or faulty intentions' on the part of said individuals (seers or visionaries), and that also applies to such as you have referred us to in your OP, and on other occasions as well.

My own personal experiences with Medugorje come to mind here; a place to which I'm sure you must have visited at some time or other during your many excursions to various 'sites' looking for truth as opposed to falsehood. I have been there many times, and have even stayed in the homes of various of the 'seers,' but I didn't rely on anything that they had said or done with respect to my own faith. For me Medugorje was a spiritual retreat - nothing more - nothing less.

I judge the merits of such places, and the associated phenomenon on their fruits alone. In other words, does the experience draw people to Christ or to the Blessed Mother Mary? And the answer is yes. That's it. Nothing more - nothing less. I have seen and known many persons who came away from there with far more - spiritually speaking - than when they had arrived. Regardless of what comes out of the heart or mouth of the so-called visionaries, or whether I believe them or not, Medugorje is a spiritual success (not necessarily a Catholic success) primarily because it has enhanced the faith of millions of people, and has made converts of many of them - Catholic and non-Catholic alike.

This is the 'good' that I was looking for and that, to me, makes Medugorje a grand success - even if the visions are inaccurate and/or (God forbid) untruthful - it doesn't really matter in the final analysis. What matters is - were you touched spiritually in such a way that the overall experience led to an increase in your faith and devotion, and were you able to pass that on to others in the name of Christ and of His Mother Mary.


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posted on Nov, 14 2013 @ 12:24 PM
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ValdoVonz
As you know, God never permits a negative without some positive coming out of it.

That's not an excuse for people to throw away common sense and embrace 'Maria Divine Mercy'
when it is very obvious that what she's spewing isn't from God. It's safer to stick with what is
approved and what is good. There is enough of that out there for people to keep them busy
for a lifetime. But instead .... people get 'itchy ears' and want to hear doom porn and
end of the world prophecies .. and they want to feel specially called to help a 'visionary' ..
even though the 'visionary' is obviously FAKE.



posted on Nov, 14 2013 @ 12:40 PM
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For the intransigent judge-mentalists who find themselves entrenched in their own sin - It is strongly advised that you pay attention to those who know more than you.

From the Gospel according to St. Matthew 7 - Judging Others

1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. Mk. 4.24
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
6 ¶ Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

AND
Lk. 6.3738, 4142 Mt. 7.1-5
37 ¶ Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:
38 give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. For with the same measure that ye mete withal it shall be measured to you again.
39 ¶ And he spake a parable unto them; Can the blind lead the blind? shall they not both fall into the ditch? Mt. 15.14
40 The disciple is not above his master: Mt. 10.24, 25 · Joh. 13.16 ; 15.20 but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.
41 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but perceivest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
42 Either how canst thou say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother's eye.


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posted on Nov, 16 2013 @ 04:21 PM
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ValdoVonz
From the Gospel according to St. Matthew 7 - Judging Others

That's all about judging another persons soul. That is something people shouldn't do.
Those readings have NOTHING to do with discerning when something isn't from heaven and
protecting yourself from frauds and/or those doing the bidding of evil spirits.
We are supposed to discern and judge the fruits ...
Big difference!



posted on Nov, 20 2013 @ 09:14 AM
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FlyersFan

ValdoVonz
As you know, God never permits a negative without some positive coming out of it.

That's not an excuse for people to throw away common sense and embrace 'Maria Divine Mercy'
when it is very obvious that what she's spewing isn't from God. It's safer to stick with what is
approved and what is good. There is enough of that out there for people to keep them busy
for a lifetime. But instead .... people get 'itchy ears' and want to hear doom porn and
end of the world prophecies .. and they want to feel specially called to help a 'visionary' ..
even though the 'visionary' is obviously FAKE.



This is why I wanted to be your friend! You are helping a lot of stupid people keep thier paychecks!

I think James Randi needs to take the case!





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