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eggman90
To those that had people praying for sick loved ones: where the f**k was your god when your loved one got sick to begin with, why did he allow it, why do you need to pray now? What kind of sick, spiteful, piece of s**t god lets people get terminally ill, then requires that you need to go and pray for help??? Really?
It's the training, dedication, and intelligence of the the medical professional that helps the ill, not some BS prayer. Insanity.
charles1952
As much as many would like to see it, there just isn't absolute conclusive proof of the cause of our existence. There's evidence, but not proof.
If the Jews were God's "Chosen people," He certainly seems to have done a good job in ensuring their survival against incredibly powerful enemies.
And if He seems primitive, what would you do if you were dealing with a primitive people in a primitive time? Introduce the Bill of Rights, the United Nations, Anarcho-capitalism, international trade agreements?
But, perhaps I'm misunderstanding what you mean by "primitive and bumbling idiot."
Of course, I can never fully understand your thoughts or arguments, but it seems that you're saying. "I can't worship God because I rely on His description in the Bible to show me He is an idiot. However, I don't rely on His description in the Bible because the Bible is false and unbelievable."
Then Jesus came. Seen as God and the Messiah, His message was a different one. Not contradictory, but with a different emphasis and purpose.
Christians worship God, at least in part, because they don't see Him as a bumbling, primitive, idiot. (And we haven't even started on how a bumbling, primitive, idiot could create and sustain the Universe. After all, our advanced scientists don't know how it happened.)
Eryiedes
Evening,
A manual for creating atheists, huh?
It'll have only have three words in it:
"Read the Bible."
-Peace-
Eryiedes
Evening,
A manual for creating atheists, huh?
It'll have only have three words in it:
"Read the Bible."
-Peace-
Third time that has been posted, know myself and other read the Bible faithfully, never have known it to create an atheist.
Krazysh0t
reply to post by Stormdancer777
I don't know about creating atheists, but it certainly can create disbelievers in the Christian religion, what with all the contradictions in it and all.
Stormdancer777
Third time that has been posted, know myself and other read the Bible faithfully, never have known it to create an atheist.
That has to be beaten into you with years of childhood trauma before it takes.
(There are some who will scream foul on this but mental abuse is identical as physical abuse in achieving this end.)
Atheist readers seem to be taking it quite seriously. The book has been endorsed by Dawkins and other atheist heavy hitters including Michael Shermer, Victor Stenger and Sean Faircloth. One group of London atheists — 600 of them — has asked Boghossian to mentor them via Skype before they hit the streets in search of believers.
“Our aim is to better equip ourselves to have genuinely meaningful conversations with people of faith,” said J. Scott Swanson, a member of the London group. “Things get quickly heated when people feel under attack and conversations just grind to a halt. We want to help change that.”
Boghossian said he is surprised by the immediate success of the book and is hopeful he won’t have to do what he predicts in the book’s acknowledgments — sleep on friends’ couches to hide from angry readers.
“What I hope will happen is that instead of wanting to physically injure me, people will invite me to have a conversation,” he said.
In what is perhaps the biggest difference between his methods and those of other, better-known atheist authors, Boghossian insists that his street epistemologists be, above all, kind, considerate, empathetic and respectful of people of faith..
“A Manual for Creating Atheists” sold out its first printing before its Nov. 1 release date and ran through a second printing in just two weeks. It also broke into Amazon’s top 100 overall best-seller list — a milestone usually reserved for better-known atheist authors from much larger publishers.
“And we just had to order more,” Volkan said, noting that the book is on track to be the publisher’s all-time best-seller by the end of the month. “It is a happy problem to have.”
Is there a method or manual for creating atheists? Is that even a proper way to phrase our goal(s) as proponents of science and reason? What is the Faith Virus?
In this show, we speak with Dr. Peter Boghossian, Instructor of Philosophy at Portland State University and author of the book, "A Manual For Creating Atheists,"Blog Radio