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intrptr
I thought our government/ banking/ military/ corporate power structure was
already the most corrupt entity on the planet?
signalfire
I'll stop lying to the government when they stop lying to me.
burntheships
buster2010
America has many socialist programs the one program
that has been missing is a healthcare system.
Ah, how quaint. Said in the true spirit of socialism,
and echos of Harry Reid.
theantediluvian
So you're refuting his statements by saying "how quaint?"
marg6043
reply to post by burntheships
Thanks, the thing is that the agenda is so obvious that anybody looking at it for what it is can see it in front of their own eyes.
Governments are deceiving, and we got one system that have broken all the records around the world.
They will do anything to save face.
And that will be the tag for the ACA, saving face.
Republican Sen. John Cornyn -- citing Health Secretary Kathleen Sebelius' recent admission that felons potentially could become ObamaCare navigators as well as new undercover video showing questionable behavior by these officials -- called Monday for the program to be halted.
Cornyn ripped the program after conservative activist James O'Keefe released a new video that appears to depict ObamaCare navigators, in Cornyn's home state of Texas, encouraging applicants to fib on their applications.
"This behavior is unacceptable, and is yet another broken piece of a deeply flawed system.
iwilliam
Well, it's a sad thing, but this industry / system has become SO greedy and corrupt that people basically have to lie, many times, in order to get fair coverage and not get completely raped by the insurance companies.
I wish it were different, but it's not. And until the insurance companies start operating differently, in a way that's more fair for the consumer, there will always be a strong incentive to lie.
The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation; The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation; The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living; The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad; The right of every family to a decent home; The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health; The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment; The right to a good education. All of these rights spell security.
burntheships
reply to post by Biigs
And these Navigators are given grant money, and tax money
paid to them by The Federal Government....in essence
paid to advise people to commit fraud.
Wow, this is completely insane.
NavyDoc
burntheships
reply to post by Biigs
And these Navigators are given grant money, and tax money
paid to them by The Federal Government....in essence
paid to advise people to commit fraud.
Wow, this is completely insane.
Not surprising as it was ACORN type "community organizers" who were hired in typical Obama cronyism to do this.
What will be the net effect of the ACA of 2010 over the short and longer term?
Strategically, I believe we can work with it, mainly due to the cooperative health insurance pools provision mentioned at the conclusion of this brief. In the short-term, it will improve access and some benefits; yet, longer term, the built-in loopholes create opportunities for the industry to circumvent the progress and create fewer and more powerful insurance companies. Yet for now, the ball is at least in the industry’s court.
Like the more than 2,000 page Dodd-Frank Banking law, the ACA will further consolidate control of health care into fewer and even more powerful health insurance companies, (like banks). United Health Group, Wellpoint, Aetna, Humana, Cigna will gain further access to markets previously limited to largely state and regional health insurers across the U.S. (see ACA section 1333, p. 206 (b) “Authority for Nationwide Plans”, subsection 1(A) states:
” the issuer of the plan may offer the nationwide qualified health plan in the individual or small group market in more than 1 State”). Currently, little to no competition in state markets exists as the dominant insurer already controls the majority of the market share (by enrollment) when taken in aggregate and individually(in most states) across the 50 states (Source: How competitive are state insurance markets ? (Kaiser Family Foundation, Oct 2011). Note that the The McCarran-Ferguson Act of 1945 also provides that federal anti-trust laws do NOT apply to the “business of insurance”. This has allowed for substantial consolidation (buyouts,mergers, aquisitions, in the health insurance industry. The largest U.S. health insurer, United Health Group’s revenues now exceed $100 billion due to takeovers of other health insurers from coast to coast since 1991.
You do of course realize that any program funded by our tax dollars is by definition "socialist?"