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When the Travis Walton abduction took place , he claims the smell of fungi in the holding bay of the ship was quite strong. Bear in mind that his companions only saw the light /orb. Did he wander into an information exchange/download. He was an avid reader of Si fi. I'm coming to the conclusion that information such as. The herb for getting out of the body to check your position under the forest canopy to a lost Amerindian . Is just a valid information download , to aid an Amerindians survival in the jungle. The information to make korari, in a very specific way, wasn't gained in a Lab. Or getting information from the God of Salvia Divinorum either. To name but a couple. These information downloads are amazing in the fact they are direct to the human psych, And usually include some astral travel/shamanistic flight, or time dilation. Or can they be considered as places visited without the encumbrance of flesh. Or even e=mc2 obtained by Einstein in the bath dreaming? These Herbs when they are used for their purpose and not casual novelty, seem to suggest strangeness.
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If the main focus of our existence is to supply beings for this other reality, then we are as necessary as them, if the supply looks like it could be stopped by a holocaust, then its no surprise that they would engage with missile silos and deactivate them. Plus doing all the things required to keep life going. Which is what they seem to be doing.
Finally, I did find a reference in H G M Hermans' book "Memories of A Maverick." Hermans was a former wife of Puharich. "A series of events that had taken place in May 1975 made him decide to start a program with children. While in England he'd met several children ...who could bend spoons, blades, or pocketknives and keys...he took the kids to Glastonbury Tor...this experience with the kids was the first time that Andrija thought about a program for children. The second time occurred two weeks later in Mexico." (pp130-131.) He went to Mexico at the request of a Mexican TV station and as a result of his visit, "...three boys, Jaime, Jonathan and Octavio were so impressive that he decided to invite them to Ossining for a summer program." (p.131.)
In July 1975 Puhrich wrote to Hermans that "I am now turning my attention to healing work, and work with children. I started an experimental school. The 9 "space kids" are all here." (p.132.) Hermans' 14 year old son Andy was at Ossining at that time. "All the kids lived by themselves at the "Turkey Farm" a house on the estate and maintained a strict daily routine of meditation, dream telling sessions, hobby time workouts and swimming. They took turns cleaning the house and do the cooking. Either Andrija or somebody else would give talks on the hazards of drugs or smoking..." (p.132.) Speaking of her son Andy, Hermans said "...Andy never told me what it meant to be a 'space kid' until recently. If he had told me then that each kid was hypnotized in order to go back to his 'parent civilisation' I would probably have flipped and kept him home." (p.132.)
"According to Andy, most of the kids present came from another planet. They had voluntarily returned to planet Earth to help in the raising of human consciousness." (pp132-133.) "That's why daddy set up the program," Andy told me "to remind these kids of their mission in life..." (p.133.) "The program with the kids lasted until the end of August, but all through 1975 and 1976, young people from all over the world kept coming to Ossining." (p.133.)
reply to post by 1ofthe9
Under the scenario, in an infinite Universe, anything can and does happen. The manifestations to our restricted understandings, are because.? As yet in our development we are not fully coherent to the rules of cause and effect, imposed on our consciousness by the very act of living.? Or that we are not fully conscious until we drop the meat.? Some of these which are mostly encounters of the third /fourth kind. Many of the encounters require the patient/abductee, to be sedated. Because they could be a threat to the entity during the mission. Not the action of the omnipotent.
Take the case of Ausso who after going to the trouble to abduct. decides that the candidate isn't suitable and drops them back to where he was taken from with a few loose ends, that he cant be bothered to tidy up, like the car being in an impossible position to drive out. Ausso has abducted before, if we are to believe this report, he is amiable. he doesn't have to do any deals with anyone to get what he wants. Perhaps that is the problem that T.P.T.B. have, which is that they might know more than us, but it wont guarantee any compliance for their purpose. I cant get the page to come up. If you go to UFO.org and hit "cases" then in that menu "close encounters of the third kind" you should get it. Ausso that is. www.ufoevidence.org... section..edit on 12-12-2013 by anonentity because: (no reason given)edit on 12-12-2013 by anonentity because: (no reason given)edit on 12-12-2013 by anonentity because: (no reason given)edit on 12-12-2013 by anonentity because: (no reason given)edit on 12-12-2013 by anonentity because: (no reason given)edit on 12-12-2013 by anonentity because: (no reason given)edit on 12-12-2013 by anonentity because: (no reason given)
reply to post by 1ofthe9
I have been trying to find a case where the abductee is seen to have been abducted, that on investigation doesn't reek of hoax. Until I do I'm forced to stick with the Astral hypothesis .Although that doesn't mean that there are no 3 dimensional saucers , it just means there is one heck of a lot more involved with regards to the hypothesis. Or even reality for that matter. It did strike me that all the reports of diminutive beings, might actually have been those of children dreaming. Especially where the incident dribbles into inactivity. They might be nearer the source while they are getting programed. .edit on 13-12-2013 by anonentity because: (no reason given)
Also fun bit of info from the second Keel collection: Fred Crisman was in the Point Pleasant area during the whole Mothman shindig - apparently attached to the Defence Logistics Agency.
well there's only one problem to the approach that ETs are just a psywar, and that is, the huge, and i mean HUGE amount of references in ancient texts to beings flying around in the sky in various vehicles of differing description
Eric Davis and Jacque Vallee did a paper together.
I think its a good indication of what Bigelow - at least - believes is going on.edit on 12013f3112America/Chicago9 by 1ofthe9 because: (no reason given)
I don't know how to embed videos but I would urge you to look up" fake plane-helicopters" on youtube especially those by mon roe. The ufo problem is a horror story that most dont have the guts to accept. Where this guy lives there is a porthole he even has footage of a jinn posing as a bird flying in the clouds, when it senses he's watching it does a flyby of his position. The more you take a good look at this stuff the more you realise we are in way over our heads.