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MadMax9
reply to post by edmc^2
For people to admit God exists requires a response to him. Man does not want to do that so it's easier to say God not exist but space time and aliens do.
It's also easier to believe in evolution even though that requires more faith than believing in a being outside our understood time and space where all our existence is as if a split second.
But ignorance does not prove the inexistance of something. Microbes do not believe humans exist because they are outside their understanding and their time and space relating to their form of existence.
If space-time exist and that it had no beginning and end, even uncreated, why not God?
randyvs
reply to post by edmc^2
Everything in the universe exists because of something. So to say the whole universe exists
because of nothing would be ignoring the evidence. And if we simply do not ignore the evidence?
Then there can be only answer as to why the universe exists.
The answer would be our concept of deity. After all why would there even be such a concept in
existence. I once new a man who said, " If the river makes noise ? There must be something in it ".
OP's right, it's a simple question. And the answer has been purpousely complicated.
There is no evidence to suggest that the universe has a purpose or direction. That is just wishful thinking on the part of humans who want there to be more to everything than what they can currently see, hear, and touch. That isn't to say that there isn't a purpose or direction to the universe, just that we aren't aware of one and have no evidence of such
edmc^2
If space-time exist and that it had no beginning and end, even uncreated, why not God?
May I suggest you invest in reading comprehension classes?
For example, we know that spacetime is both uncreated and infinite, that "IT" always existed. Yet why is this NOT proof enough of the existence of an incorporeal uncreated and infinite being - God?
xDeadcowx
reply to post by edmc^2
After reading through the thread, i have a question for you.
What makes this "God" you speak of any different from an alien? Power? Ability? Knowledge?
The ability to traverse spacetime is only a matter of having the right technology and knowledge of the mechanics of the universe and spacetime. For all we know some race of hyper-intelligent aliens from another dimension did some experiment which cause a big-bang in our universe.
You are assuming that this being is a single "God". Im sure this is due to the modern monotheistic mindset most people have. 3000 years ago when posing this same philosophical question you probably would have replaced your single "God" with multiple Gods, or a race of Gods.
The point im trying to make here is that there is no clear line between what most would call a "God" and an ancient species of alien we know nothing about. We can guess all day, but until something happens to point us in the right direction, all we are doing is throwing arbitrary guesses at the wall hoping they stick.
DCedit on 11/12/2013 by xDeadcowx because: (no reason given)
Transmutation of lead into gold isn't just theoretically possible - it has been achieved!..
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spy66
reply to post by edmc^2
For example, we know that spacetime is both uncreated and infinite, that "IT" always existed. Yet why is this NOT proof enough of the existence of an incorporeal uncreated and infinite being - God?
I would say that Space is the only dimension that cant have been created. IT must have always existed and is the only dimension that will always exist. Time on the other hand must have been formed. But time is a big topic. It takes time to form time. It tok time to form Our universe.
Without a infinite empty Space there would not be a Place to form time.
edmc^2
I can go on and on but the point is - if we have the "attributes" to gain the "knowledge" of the things around us, of "how stuff works", including the universe then why is the existence of God a "mystery" or a "miracle"?
The fact that we're also capable of transforming energy into matter, why is then a "mystery" when it comes to the ONE who has the Power and Knowledge to transform enormous amount of "dynamic energy" into "matter" (E=mc2) - the material universe?
And if time/space is a reality, that "IT" exists, why not God?
Time though, is an idea and ideas appear to exist.
edmc^2
Thus "time" is "space and "space" is "time" - one can't exist without the other - uncreated always existing.
We accept this to be a fact and understand them to be a fact. Yet, why is it hard to accept the concept of of an "Eternal Being" - an uncreated, incorporeal Entity we call God?
edmc^2
Thus "time" is "space and "space" is "time" - one can't exist without the other - uncreated always existing.
We accept this to be a fact and understand them to be a fact. Yet, why is it hard to accept the concept of of an "Eternal Being" - an uncreated, incorporeal Entity we call God?
edmc^2
To all unbelievers, here's a simple yet profound question that merits an honest answer.
That is:
Should not the existence of "something" uncreated and infinite proves the existence of "someone" uncreated and infinite - God?
For example, we know that spacetime is both uncreated and infinite, that "IT" always existed. Yet why is this NOT proof enough of the existence of an incorporeal uncreated and infinite being - God?
Subnatural
edmc^2
Thus "time" is "space and "space" is "time" - one can't exist without the other - uncreated always existing.
We accept this to be a fact and understand them to be a fact. Yet, why is it hard to accept the concept of of an "Eternal Being" - an uncreated, incorporeal Entity we call God?
But how do we know if time and space are uncreated? And if they are, why does that mean that God is uncreated?
Question: If time always existed, how is it possible that you were born? You would be born only after an infinite amount of time.