Obamacare Will Be Repealed Well In Advance Of The 2014 Elections

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posted on Nov, 11 2013 @ 05:19 PM
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The author of this story is suggesting ObamaCare will be repealed soon enough.

Reasons being Democrats must save their hides in light of the 2014 elections where many are up for re-election in the Senate and House.

Saving face and undermining Republicans (especially Tea Party) is of the utmost importance.

Problems with the healthcare websites are only the small part.

He claims the massive policy cancellations taking place for millions of voters will be the main reason for a movement to repeal {the 'can't keep it even if ya want it' array}

I say they will not repeal, just make changes that would *appear* to be welcome to voters {whatever THAT could possibly be at this point}

They need to create short term effects that will *amplify* the illusion that promises will be kept.



Prediction: even if HealthCare.gov is fixed by the end of the month (unlikely), Obamacare is going to be repealed well in advance of next year’s election. And if the website continues to fail, the push for repeal—from endangered Democrats—will occur very rapidly. The website is a sideshow: the real action is the number of people and businesses who are losing their health plans or having to pay a lot more. Fixing the website will only delay the inevitable. ......

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Senate Democrats endangered for re-election will lead the charge for repeal perhaps as soon as January, after they get an earful over the Christmas break. They’ll call it “reform,” and clothe it in calls for delaying the individual mandate and allowing people and businesses to keep their existing health insurance policies. But it is probably too late to go back in many cases. With the political damage guaranteed to continue, the momentum toward repeal will be unstoppable. Democrats will not want to face the voters next November with the albatross of Obamacare.



Obamacare Will Be Repealed Well In Advance Of The 2014 Elections




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posted on Nov, 11 2013 @ 05:32 PM
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I think the damage is already done, and it would be too little too late. What are all those people who lost insurance supposed to do, forget that it ever happened like a bad dream? It's one thing to tell a little white lie, but it's a whole different situation when that lie hits millions of voters right in their wallets.



posted on Nov, 11 2013 @ 05:36 PM
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xuenchen
The author of this story is suggesting ObamaCare will be repealed soon enough.


Won't happen. SCOTUS says that Obamacare, which is the largest 'tax hike' in US history, is the law of the land. No matter how obvious it is that we all got screwed, we are stuck with it. IMHO.



posted on Nov, 11 2013 @ 05:41 PM
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Sure hope not!

It's a shaky transition period and many people are unhappy but I think forward to a decade where new, young, American kids look back in the history books and realize what Obama did was "the right thing to do!".

Many Canadians I know applaude Obama for his integrity and sticking to his promise of affordable healthcare for every American!


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posted on Nov, 11 2013 @ 05:42 PM
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CALGARIAN
Sure hope not!

It's a shaky transition period and many people are unhappy but I think forward to a decade where new, young, American kids look back in the history books and realize what Obama did was "the right thing to do!".

Many Canadians I know applaude Obama for his integrity and sticking to his promise of affordable healthcare for every American!


wtf is this? sarcasm?


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posted on Nov, 11 2013 @ 05:43 PM
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You can't "unstab" someone by simply removing the blade.

The damage has already been done.



posted on Nov, 11 2013 @ 05:44 PM
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FlyersFan

xuenchen
The author of this story is suggesting ObamaCare will be repealed soon enough.


Won't happen. SCOTUS says that Obamacare, which is the largest 'tax hike' in US history, is the law of the land. No matter how obvious it is that we all got screwed, we are stuck with it. IMHO.


Actually the real screw job took place when we started our current military endeavors by borrowing rather than taxing. That is where the screwing really happened and anything else after that event doesn't really compare.

Derek


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posted on Nov, 11 2013 @ 05:44 PM
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CALGARIAN
I think forward to a decade where new, young, American kids look back in the history books and realize what Obama did was "the right thing to do!".

WILL NOT HAPPEN. Young American kids will look back in history and think that this generation was exceptionally ignorant for voting for Obama and causing the health care mess that is only going to get worse.


Many Canadians I know applaude Obama for his integrity and sticking to his promise of affordable healthcare for every American!

He didn't give everyone 'affordable healthcare'
Estimates are that 75 million will LOSE their affordable health care insurance.
And then they'll be forced to buy worse healthcare insurance that costs three times as much.



posted on Nov, 11 2013 @ 05:50 PM
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The train wreak has only began, wait until the voters find out how poor the medical care is through the government. D's remember 2010 and do not want a repeat in 2014 and 2016. I too bet that Obamacare gets a long long delay.



posted on Nov, 11 2013 @ 05:53 PM
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In my opinion if the Democrat's back down and join the train to Repeal Obamacare, it will make them look even weaker and hurt their reelections more than if they just pretended the system is working out its kinks and everythings going to be ok.

Vote Third Party
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posted on Nov, 11 2013 @ 06:00 PM
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FlyersFan

CALGARIAN
I think forward to a decade where new, young, American kids look back in the history books and realize what Obama did was "the right thing to do!".

WILL NOT HAPPEN. Young American kids will look back in history and think that this generation was exceptionally ignorant for voting for Obama and causing the health care mess that is only going to get worse.


Many Canadians I know applaude Obama for his integrity and sticking to his promise of affordable healthcare for every American!

He didn't give everyone 'affordable healthcare'
Estimates are that 75 million will LOSE their affordable health care insurance.
And then they'll be forced to buy worse healthcare insurance that costs three times as much.


I'm sure that's what those on the right said about woman's suffrage, civil rights, Medicare, etc. The problem is that every time society tries to make any advancement for equality or the common good, the conservatives swear it's the end of the world.
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posted on Nov, 11 2013 @ 06:03 PM
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Vote Third Party

Gonna take more than that to make ObamaramaCare go away. Voting straight third party is a recipe for six more years of Socialist policy making. The only possibility of making this go away is the replacement of the corporate conservatives with Tea Party candidates. Even though that is the painful choice ... it's the only possible step away from what is the purple machine.

How many times has the third party vote worked in favor of its opposite intended effect?



posted on Nov, 11 2013 @ 06:04 PM
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Maybe you can explain how forcing people to purchase insurance is a stride in the right direction for the "common good" as you put it, or for "equality"?

Using young healthy people to subsidize the weak and sick is being equal?

Forcing people to pay a tax or purchase something they may not need is for the common good?



posted on Nov, 11 2013 @ 06:10 PM
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But, but...

I thought it was going to be repealed before the 2012 elections. Wait.

And then...

It was going to be de-funded (whatever that means) or there wasn't going to BE a government after October this year. Oh, wait again.

Well, sooner or later SOMEONE will be correct.

(Very much NOT holding my breath)



posted on Nov, 11 2013 @ 06:11 PM
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SpaDe_
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Maybe you can explain how forcing people to purchase insurance is a stride in the right direction for the "common good" as you put it, or for "equality"?

Using young healthy people to subsidize the weak and sick is being equal?

Forcing people to pay a tax or purchase something they may not need is for the common good?


No, no, it's forcing everyone to pay for things they will never need. No man will ever need maternity care and no woman will ever need prostate exams. How many people will ever need substance abuse care or mental health coverage? And that's just the tip of the iceberg.



posted on Nov, 11 2013 @ 06:12 PM
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Surely you know that is a perfectly legitimate function of the House of Representatives don't you?

That's what the Democrat controlled House under Pelosi did to No Child Left Behind; they defunded it. If the House decides that legislation isn't in the best interests of the purse and nation, they can simply not pay for it.



posted on Nov, 11 2013 @ 06:16 PM
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Montana
(Very much NOT holding my breath)

Me neither.

Too many sleeping Sheople. You've gotta give it to the Repubs and Dems for BOTH using the IRS to stomp on change and maintain the status quo.

Great avatar, BTW.



posted on Nov, 11 2013 @ 06:17 PM
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Most certainly it is the power of the house to originate funding bills. Understand that others have to agree with the house as well. Pretty hard to de-fund a tax though, since it develops funding itself, and I am still waiting...



posted on Nov, 11 2013 @ 06:19 PM
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Here are the facts.

1.) You can't just repeal the ACA no matter how utterly degenerating and destructive it is and believe me, it's plenty of both. Once the ball was started rolling, during a government shutdown no less, the things put into motion are of a domino nature that can't be so easily undone. Obama and his cohorts were perfectly aware of this fact which is why they lied through their teeth to get it passed. Don't like it now? Too bad.

2.) At least for the first year of the ACA being implemented, more people will lose their insurance completely then have signed up for the ACA, either because it does not conform to the ACA or their new insurance will have gone up somewhere between 16 and 79%. To be fair, I believe in 5 states, plans have actually decreased but unfortunately, that leaves 45 with outrageous increases. This is atop the fact that deductibles are going up by an unprecedented margin in an economy where very few people, even those making "middle class" wages have a surplus of cash on hand to pay outright, rendering their insurance under ACA useless.

3.) The liberals are now taking the same position in both the senate and the house as the republicans did before the shutdown because now they fear the results of the coming election. Does anyone know just how ludicrous and absurd that is? If any research was done at all on a common sense basis into what this law is and would do instead of blindly following party lines and ideology, we wouldn't be in this mess in the first place.

4.) Liberals don't care about you, Conservatives don't care about you. The only thing that almost all politicians care about on both sides is staying viable within their own party lines and backing what they promised to back or oppose when it comes to their campaign fund supporters and lobbyists. Most of the time, what politicians support, only goes so far as what the person who is paying the most into the campaign funds asks them to support. That is why there is so much flip flopping, it's not about morals, it's about money and everyone you have supported would sell you out in a New York minute if a lobbyist paid them enough to do it.

Yes, the ACA is hopelessly broken and can not be repaired, but, so is our federal government and it's useless to even try to fix that train wreck until we address the broken tracks that caused it.
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posted on Nov, 11 2013 @ 06:21 PM
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Good luck on that happening, republicans have 0 chance to win the next presidential run, but you guys can keep on dreaming.

Even if obamacare is as bad as all the made up stories, reps still cant win the white house.

And no i aint a democrat





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