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Cover-up of Comet ISON information continues - why?

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posted on Nov, 10 2013 @ 08:51 PM
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theclarificator55555
To clarify my view I need at least to know if this 6 tail object is near the comet Ison path or no, first. Does you have any data that point me on that direction?


This link to the position of the "asteroid with six tails".
This link to the position of comet ISON.

As you see, they're nowhere even remotely close to each other.




posted on Nov, 10 2013 @ 09:01 PM
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cloaked4u
Here is a curious question. Why would they name the sat DEEP IMPACT? Unless they thought it would hit somthing, so they sent out a probe to take a closer looksee. I would like to know what happened to it just before the blackout.


Deep Impact was named as such due to it's primary mission of study with comet 9P/Temple



Deep Impact is a NASA space probe launched on January 12, 2005. It was designed to study the interior composition of the comet 9P/Tempel, by releasing an impactor into the comet. At 5:52 UTC on July 4, 2005, the impactor successfully collided with the comet's nucleus. The impact excavated debris from the interior of the nucleus, allowing photographs of the impact crater. The photographs showed the comet to be more dusty and less icy than had been expected. The impact generated a large and bright dust cloud, which unexpectedly obscured the view of the impact crater.



posted on Nov, 10 2013 @ 09:19 PM
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tsurfer2000h
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Have you heard of the electric universe theories?


You see the problem is that they are just theories and don't actually have evidence to back the claim.

Heck I have theories about unicorns, but that doesn't mean my theories are the truth.


Kind of like Einstein's THEORY of Relativity...

...or Darwin's THEORY of evolution...

Right?



posted on Nov, 10 2013 @ 09:20 PM
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So is the impactor device still connected to the sat by cord? If so, that means they are now tracking it in real time. Not only that, that means they will be taking samples to be braught back to earth with the sat. hitching a short ride to earth. Hope they don't push any rocket buttons to change coarse of comet with the impactor still connected to the sat. Why don't they steer it away from the sun and earth all together and save us if any grief period.



posted on Nov, 10 2013 @ 09:23 PM
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I almost cringe writing this but I feel I must say it.

I believe the comet ison passes closest to earth just after Christmas.

Here goes , and take this with a grain of salt , the astrological aspects are not very good during those few days , so something might happen, it looks to be a challenging time . that's it folks , lol like I said a grain of salt
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posted on Nov, 10 2013 @ 09:32 PM
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cloaked4u
So is the impactor device still connected to the sat by cord?


read the wiki page posted.... What makes you think it was connected by a cord 500km long?


that means they will be taking samples to be braught back to earth with the sat


The impactor was moving at 37,000 km/h when it hit, so how do you think it can collect samples?



posted on Nov, 10 2013 @ 09:36 PM
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cloaked4u
reply to post by eriktheawful
 


So is the impactor device still connected to the sat by cord? If so, that means they are now tracking it in real time. Not only that, that means they will be taking samples to be braught back to earth with the sat. hitching a short ride to earth. Hope they don't push any rocket buttons to change coarse of comet with the impactor still connected to the sat. Why don't they steer it away from the sun and earth all together and save us if any grief period.


What in the world are you talking about? Did you even bother to read the article I linked to?

No, the impactor device from DI was not attached with a cord. The mission was to impact with the comet's surface, photographing as it happened to study the plume and the crater that was made. Not bring back material from the coment, and certainly not trying to change the course of the comet.

The energy required to change the course of a comet the size of 9P/Temple would require a much larger impactor (bigger then the entire probe).



posted on Nov, 10 2013 @ 09:38 PM
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Parasuv0 don't even bother with this one. He's just funning ya. Arn't you now Charlyv.

Charlyv, you know very well you can't prove a negative. An inability to prove something is proof of nothing. Better luck with your next attempt.



posted on Nov, 10 2013 @ 10:05 PM
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healthy debate. That is what I am all about.


Please don't lie to the good members of ATS, clearly you aren't interested in a healthy debate about ISON.



posted on Nov, 10 2013 @ 10:11 PM
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applesthateatpeople

tsurfer2000h
reply to post by Tallone
 





Have you heard of the electric universe theories?


You see the problem is that they are just theories and don't actually have evidence to back the claim.

Heck I have theories about unicorns, but that doesn't mean my theories are the truth.


Kind of like Einstein's THEORY of Relativity...

...or Darwin's THEORY of evolution...

Right?


And you are implying that these two theories are correct, right?



posted on Nov, 10 2013 @ 10:14 PM
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Tallone
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Parasuv0 don't even bother with this one. He's just funning ya. Arn't you now Charlyv.

Charlyv, you know very well you can't prove a negative. An inability to prove something is proof of nothing. Better luck with your next attempt.


I really do not understand your premise about proving a negative. In order to disagree with another persons analysis, you need to give a real world example as to why it is incorrect. Just saying that it is incorrect adds nothing to the discussion and is not fair to the person that went through the trouble of presenting their post.
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posted on Nov, 10 2013 @ 10:14 PM
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Here you say NOT attached with a cord then.
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posted on Nov, 10 2013 @ 10:16 PM
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You say here a 500 km cord, when i made no saying of any length of any cord. INTERESTING. wow.
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posted on Nov, 10 2013 @ 10:25 PM
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hellobruce

cloaked4u
So is the impactor device still connected to the sat by cord?


read the wiki page posted.... What makes you think it was connected by a cord 500km long?


that means they will be taking samples to be braught back to earth with the sat


The impactor was moving at 37,000 km/h when it hit, so how do you think it can collect samples?

Well i did not say that. what u said i said. I did not say anything that you say i wrote. Your statement above says what makes you think it was connected by a cord 500 km long. I did not type that. Maybe u should read the article again, or attempt to read what i typed.



posted on Nov, 10 2013 @ 10:26 PM
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eriktheawful
It basically boils down to this:

MSM is in the business to sell news. Even though many of us rarely pay for news to access MSM websites, they still get paid by advertisers, etc.

That means they need to attract readers. How to do that? Why by having sensational news to put out.


No it doesn't boil down to that at all. What does 'news' mean to you? Information about where best to buy your pizza???

You appear to overlook the fact that news organisations while they are a business - aiming to make a profit - operate within firm constraints. I am not talking of constraints from any government regulatory body, I mean from the corporation that owns the particular website, TV channel… editorial policy.

Six main media corporations control more than 85% of MSM. They own virtually all of the MSM.


When C/2012 S1 was first discovered, all the speculation about it being brighter than the moon, etc, was sensational news to be sold by the MSM. That speculation would attract readers. But even if the predictions of ISON being as bright as the moon, etc, etc, had panned out, there is no way in the world the MSM was going to spend over a year peddling that news. It does not capture the attention of the average Joe on the street. Doesn't mater how much some of us may find any tid bit of news about ISON interesting, we are in a vast minority.

Government Shutdowns, Chemical Attacks in Syria, American Embassies being attacked, ObamaCare.....THOSE are the news articles that sell news.

Don't be naive. ASPECTS of what THEY consider is the-story-we-should-know make the news.


Now, if ISON were headed dangerously close to Earth, then yes, MSM would be screaming their heads off (fear sells news).

You are really trying hard now. If Fukushima dia-ichi was suffering a triple melt down 'MSM would be screaming their heads off''… WTF. Have you convinced yourself? [SNIP]



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posted on Nov, 10 2013 @ 10:29 PM
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eriktheawful

cloaked4u
reply to post by eriktheawful
 


So is the impactor device still connected to the sat by cord? If so, that means they are now tracking it in real time. Not only that, that means they will be taking samples to be braught back to earth with the sat. hitching a short ride to earth. Hope they don't push any rocket buttons to change coarse of comet with the impactor still connected to the sat. Why don't they steer it away from the sun and earth all together and save us if any grief period.


What in the world are you talking about? Did you even bother to read the article I linked to?

No, the impactor device from DI was not attached with a cord. The mission was to impact with the comet's surface, photographing as it happened to study the plume and the crater that was made. Not bring back material from the coment, and certainly not trying to change the course of the comet.

The energy required to change the course of a comet the size of 9P/Temple would require a much larger impactor (bigger then the entire probe).

NOT attached with a cord, so which is it. attached or unattached.



posted on Nov, 10 2013 @ 10:34 PM
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AlphaHawk
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healthy debate. That is what I am all about.


Please don't lie to the good members of ATS, clearly you aren't interested in a healthy debate about ISON.


Alphahawk, listen up. Mud slinging is not acceptable on this thread. If there is any mud slinging to be done I as OP will do it. Unless the mod steps in and then I can't. I redirect you to an apt question you asked elsewhere - see the title at the top of your thread here AlphaHawk

You and you play pals are interested in pot shots from the bushes and not healthy debate. Strawman arguments and other inanities. Baiting time is over kids. You know if you really are interested in this topic start your own thread. Ah but you are right I am not interested in getting down in the mud with you at all.


Bye pal.
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posted on Nov, 10 2013 @ 10:34 PM
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where are those new military satelites that nasa got from the military?
for pictures and stuff?

ohh and they had 3 years too get ready for data collection, so,,,,

where's the data?

kinda like where's the BEEF,?,,
for all the money, spent?
what is the nasa budget by the way.

it is the comet of our generation,, dont know about anyone else.

once again seem's our generation,,screws up

ya only 3 years warning.



posted on Nov, 10 2013 @ 10:56 PM
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I could really care less about who stars what posts. However, it was most likely clear minded thinkers that do not see any type of "cover up" going on with C/2012 S1.

My point still stands: There was no need to have daily, weekly or even monthly updates about a comet in the news. Period.

Lack of coverage of something does not a "cover-up" make. It simply shows what news agencies consider what stories they want to run, and what stories they do not want to run.

How many head lines about Syria did we see? How many different threads on here showed up during that period?
Then take a look at the news headlines and how they changed when it was about Government Shutdown (or Slimdown).

Syria became a dead story.

C/2012 S1 was all through the media (both MSM and astronomy dedicated sites) when it was first discovered and predicted to be another "Comet Of The Century". Then other stories took front stage (after all, it was going to be over year before anyone here on Earth would be able to see it with their naked eyes). Not surprising since the comet was going to have to be observed to refine it's orbital path, and other information about it (mass, make up, etc).

It was in the news again when it was shown that it would not be the grand show that people speculated on at first. More in the astronomy circles than MSM, but there were articles about it, mostly speculating on if it would even survive it's shot around the sun.

It's been in space news off an on all the way up until now, with even web sites dedicated to the live tracking of it (our very own ATS member NGChunter has posted pics of C/2012 S1 for months now and lent links to articles on it).

So there is no media black out about it. There is no "cover up".

All there is are media outlets deciding on what news stories are the ones they want to run. Period.

Have an issue with the media not putting out stories that you think are important? Then write them (not that they'll listen to you, me or Joe Blow on the street, but the fact is, you can write them about it).

In the mean time, my posts here are not an attempt to convince you of anything. You already decided on something, went out to find things to fit and support what you were saying, and have ignored anything contrary to what you posted. IE: This is the wrong way to do the Scientific Method, and means that you are completely biased in this subject, and will not entertain the possibility that you are wrong.

No, all I'm doing here is offering other ATS members that read these threads other reasons for things is all. Or correcting information that is posted wrong.

I spent a good chunk of last year on here reassuring people that Planet X or Nibiru was not going to be showing up on December 21, 2012, and trying to convince those that believed in it that they were wrong. So I learned the hard way that you can't convince people who have decided to believe in something (even when it flies in the face of facts against it). They're going to believe whatever it is that they want to believe, and there is no debating them in a civilized way (as is already apparent in your reply to my previous post, as you've decided to make abusive comments).

I'm just here to give ATS readers another avenue to think of is all.



posted on Nov, 10 2013 @ 11:00 PM
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