posted on Nov, 9 2013 @ 05:26 PM
The construct of a "free will" is false even if there was no God.Man makes a multitude of choices by their will yet none of them are free of
causation.Every effect has a cause and all effects have a source that is independent of any mans will.
If there is a God (and there is) that makes God the cause of all effects since God is the creator.Nothing that has ever happened or will ever happen
can be independent of the creators will.
If you are speaking of 'freewill' as incumbered by Karma you would be correct; unless operating under the understanding of that phenomenon (you are
correcting from a past life) you can have total freewill and BE FREE of past encombrances, potencially have the concsious ability to correct them.
Nice call. I continue to think of God as an Absolute form of 1s and 0s that dreamed itself into conscious awareness. Something created something and I
dont see it as a boardroom discussion. Accidental; electrons nuetrons, positrons got it together at a christmas party and by using the zerox machine
TOO MANY TIMES ON ONE IDEA resulted in an animated matter form.
The mistaken notion is that would make his creations ...such as man ...robot type automatons which is false.Even though automatons would not have free
wills an automaton would not have a will at all.Man does have a will however it just isn't free of causation.
Animals have no 'freewill' they live by instinct. Humans, dolphins and African Gray parrots recognise themselves in a mirror. Im intrigued by the idea
'robotic' assembly line builders have 'sentience' (nowhere near the humans capacity for free will). Here is the problem SELFWILL does apply and is
entirely different from FREEWILL; is this your reference?
The will is the mechanism for making choices through consciousness.By the virtue of there being billions of will "mechanisms" existing all at once
every "free will" would be in conflict with at minimum another free will.That alone would negate free will.
Throw in the factor of self will; it would as being ego driven, override free will (not sure free will is understood by most).
As with many things it is a dichotomy wrapped in a conundrum.Man is under the delusion they have a freedom of will to make free choices yet that is
impossible.Every choice man makes has an origin that is independent of the will.
Impossible because of the Karma effect. Born into impossible circumstances to correct prior misdeeds or balance riches to poor/poor to riches
occurances. Is being born a human always juggling act? At what point does one jump out of the squirrel cage? Is there ever an ending to soul
progression enlightement. I really dislike Karmic payback because we as humans (only those westernised) will never Grok it.
This is the highest obstacle to overcome.It can't be done by…the will!! Some people think it could be by enlightenment however that is also false
because every glimpse of light comes from a source that is not from the self.Everything of life and existence points away from mankind.Mankind is the
benefactor of life.Mankind did not will any life into existence.
I agree, ANY glimpse of light comes from beyond ones initial sourse being, it has to be of a different vibration/frequency and impacts your own in
such a way to challenge. Mankind can duplicate lifeforms, but cannot imbue them with the soul/spirit factor, THE THING THAT ANIMATES THE OTHERWISE
POTENCIAL STILLBORN CHILD.
How does this relate to Song of Solomon. Yes ...it is Gods "song" of love to mankind.The song of a Father to a child.The song of a creator to his
creation.Everything originates from the Father.The creation only receives.That is Love.
I agree, God (through Solomon) is trying to (the plaintiff cry of soul exposing its nakedness) express its love to us; much like a nursery rhyme or
LULLUBY SONG. The/Its creation is within hearing but will we respond?
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