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Obama personally apologizes for Americans losing health coverage

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posted on Nov, 11 2013 @ 12:12 PM
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macman


Not needed. I don't poke my nose in the business of YOUR country. I guess expecting the common courtesy of the same is too much to ask.

There is a diffrence though. What the UK does or doesnt do does not really effect you. But what ever baffoon that gets voted into office in the USA will do and say things that could very well effect the UK. Rember Bushes wars dragged the UK in and the finicial collapse started in the USA along with lots of small things. The UK is very closely tied with the USA.

So when you have a goverment of imbeciles in the USA us in the UK get screwed too. We share your pain so to speak


When the USA stops haveing such influance on the UK Im sure I will leave you be. But that not the case. Hopefully you will get your way one day and the USA will adopt a isolationist policy.

Anyway the fact is Im supporting you as I agree with alot you are saying. Even if Im am not American support is support. If the founding father had refused international support there would not be a USA!


macman
Good thing I am neither a Republican nor a Democrat.


Great you have brains. Shame the majority of American dont and will just vote in another clown next election.
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posted on Nov, 11 2013 @ 12:18 PM
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EarthCitizen07

And please do with less sensationalism. Your country is suffering from the same people on a smaller degree. Everyone likes to # on america, yet its very easy to recall who attacked libya and who wanted to attack syria as well. Its also easy to recall who was the biggest imperialist before world war 2....

Cheers


Unlike American most Brits dont hide our dirty laundery. We dont hide behind false slogans like "land of the free" ect which nowdays are not true.

I admitt the UK is a crap hole like America at the moment. Hell we may as well be your 51st state.



posted on Nov, 11 2013 @ 12:33 PM
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I think he should apologize the Republicans who tried to stop this from happening because it wasn't ready yet. You know, the people he called names, and broke into tv programming to belittle them.

C'mon, lets hear it, "I'm sorry, you were right"



posted on Nov, 11 2013 @ 01:17 PM
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crazyewok

EarthCitizen07

And please do with less sensationalism. Your country is suffering from the same people on a smaller degree. Everyone likes to # on america, yet its very easy to recall who attacked libya and who wanted to attack syria as well. Its also easy to recall who was the biggest imperialist before world war 2....

Cheers


Unlike American most Brits dont hide our dirty laundery. We dont hide behind false slogans like "land of the free" ect which nowdays are not true.

I admitt the UK is a crap hole like America at the moment. Hell we may as well be your 51st state.


I see your point. Some people have a hard time stripping themselves from their pride. For some people pride is more important than their life. Not for me. I have always been fair and balanced in my views.

Just as an example americans call everything they dont like as "socialism" or "progressive". They have not lived in any other country to be able to compare. Europeans who lived under nationalised industry(people owned enterprise) know the real definition of socialism and people who have lived in cuba, nk, eastern europe know the defintion of communism. Its hard to tell if people enjoy hyperbole to that extent or if they have been successfuly brainwashed.

The bottom line is that neoliberals and neoconservatives are the problem. Not only do they want a big wasteful government, they also want it to be backwards as hell! Good is bad, up is down, day is night.
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posted on Nov, 11 2013 @ 01:43 PM
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crazyewok

There is a diffrence though. What the UK does or doesnt do does not really effect you. But what ever baffoon that gets voted into office in the USA will do and say things that could very well effect the UK. Rember Bushes wars dragged the UK in and the finicial collapse started in the USA along with lots of small things. The UK is very closely tied with the USA.

So when you have a goverment of imbeciles in the USA us in the UK get screwed too. We share your pain so to speak


When the USA stops haveing such influance on the UK Im sure I will leave you be. But that not the case. Hopefully you will get your way one day and the USA will adopt a isolationist policy.

Anyway the fact is Im supporting you as I agree with alot you are saying. Even if Im am not American support is support. If the founding father had refused international support there would not be a USA!

Sounds like you have a problem, in your country.
Not my problem.
It is your problem, within your country to deal with.


crazyewok
Great you have brains. Shame the majority of American dont and will just vote in another clown next election.


I will wish in one hand and crap in the other and see which fills first.



posted on Nov, 11 2013 @ 02:00 PM
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Fact is you country aserts massive infulance through diplomacy or force round the world.

Now I think we both agree it shouldnt.

But until it does you cant complaign if someone whos country is at the whime of the USA has a opinion on its politics.

Its like a indian haveing a opinion on British politics 100 years ago.

I dont even know why we are fighting as we both agree on the basics and at the end of the day there is strength in numbers. Your founding father recognised that and accepted help even if it was from those outside the USA.



posted on Nov, 11 2013 @ 02:25 PM
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The elite are using the american government and its awesome military for their own benefit. It is not the average american that wants any of this and lets be fair its just now that many are starting to wake up to the massive corruption. You cant stop a runaway train right away, it takes time to organise and be effective.

The british people need to do the same thing and stop blaming USA for all the worlds misdeeds. This is a cop out. If libya and syria can tell NATO go eff itself, then why cant british and french citizens tell the same thing to their repsective government?

The person that gets bullied shares part of the blame for not standing up to the oppressor. Its not victim blame, its reality.



posted on Nov, 11 2013 @ 02:30 PM
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EarthCitizen07
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The elite are using the american government and its awesome military for their own benefit. It is not the average american that wants any of this and lets be fair its just now that many are starting to wake up to the massive corruption. You cant stop a runaway train right away, it takes time to organise and be effective.

The british people need to do the same thing and stop blaming USA for all the worlds misdeeds. This is a cop out. If libya and syria can tell NATO go eff itself, then why cant british and french citizens tell the same thing to their repsective government?

The person that gets bullied shares part of the blame for not standing up to the oppressor. Its not victim blame, its reality.


Im not blameing the common American.

Iknow its your goverment.

Are we not all on the same side?

Isnt our bickering what they want?

American/French/British hell Japanese? Shouldnt we stand together on the issue or goverment and elite abuseses?



posted on Nov, 11 2013 @ 02:38 PM
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Thanks. Just got to give it more time. Sooner or later something good will happen. Patience and persistance normally wins. The only thing that disappoints me is that alex jones and david icke dont have a bigger following. They are heroes that get so little respect its abhorable. People can be their own worst enemy sometimes.



posted on Nov, 11 2013 @ 02:57 PM
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You still work under the idea that England doesn't affect the US. It does. Maybe not to the extent as the reverse, but it does.

I mean, look what you guys have poisoned us with.
Piers Morgan is just off the top of my head.
Thanks a lot for that asshat.



posted on Nov, 11 2013 @ 03:08 PM
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macman
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You still work under the idea that England doesn't affect the US. It does. Maybe not to the extent as the reverse, but it does.

I mean, look what you guys have poisoned us with.
Piers Morgan is just off the top of my head.
Thanks a lot for that asshat.


Yeah well isnt that what drone strikes are for? Please do it no one will judge you badly



posted on Nov, 11 2013 @ 03:12 PM
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I bet the british crown is still behind a lot of the puppets we see lately. You think it has been a done deal decades ago, but isnt the best way to influence events, from behind the scenes? (wink, wink) And then have the rothschilds manage the assets and get all the blame, maybe? (wink, wink)

just some ideas... (wink, wink)




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