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reply to post by Eryiedes
I didn`t see anything about him in the article posted. Just a handfull of small-time lawyers that think that people should live in fear of the police. In other words just sensationalism to cause fear of `big gubberment` (caused by the lawyers saying this, not necessarily the Op).
reply to post by Eryiedes
Ok I must have missed that statement by the professor but that was just in passing and NONE of those videos actually had him (Robert H. Jackson) stating that line in person. From what I gather from that trial when (and if) he actually stated that he ment that actual citizens could not defend themselves in court and therefore needed a lawyer present and no matter the incident was about people would have to pay for a lawyer`s services and was rather self-serving in that way. That is how I understand what he (Jackson) ment.
No I`m not trolling the thread; this is just how I see it.
This is not a joke. I'm fighting a legal case right now where the police ended up searching our house because they tricked us into giving them permission, and the warrant that they used to get into the house in the first place was one to arrest one of my room-mates for not turning in paperwork, we think that they were attempting to do a raid on our house, but found hardly anything in it -
My attorney filed for discovery in the case, and the police report had factually incorrect data, some of the evidence the police officers took ended up missing, I was cited for owning contraband that I had never claimed, and the police audio (which by law was supposed to be on) was "off" due to "low battery power."
Not only that, I have been pulled over around 10 times in the past year for strange reasons, one time, I was even given a test to see if I was drunk, which I passed, because I was sober.
My aunt is a defense attorney, and I asked her about the Federal Agencies and State Police being trained to re-write how they got information from roving N.S.A. wire-taps (which violate the 4th amendment because they do not target a specific person or place, and use no warrant to begin with) and she said you have to file for discovery -
However, based on my legal case, the police lie on their discovery reports.
This is not a joke. And at this point, all of us have violated one law or another, as the O.P. stated.Even if we haven't, just because we are on A.T.S. we might be on some kind of watch list.
The police could also quite literally even try to entrap any one of us at any time, when we would much rather be left alone and not be bothered by pesky criminals trying to get us to do illegal things for them so they can arrest us.edit on 07pmThu, 07 Nov 2013 21:10:12 -0600kbpmkAmerica/Chicago by darkbake because: (no reason given)