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Right Wing Terrorism & Unhinged Rhetoric On The Right

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posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 12:55 PM
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The left-wing propaganda machine looks to be moving into full swing mode over the LAX - TSA shooting a few days ago. Instead of blaming Paul Ciancia, the alledged shooter they are spinning this to put the blame on those they consider the real right-wing terrorists. That includes:

    Ron and Rand Paul
    Todd Starnes
    Judge Napolitano
    Alex Jones
    Rush Limbaugh
    Geraldo Rivera
    Glenn Beck

Right Wing Terrorism And Unhinged Rhetoric On The Right
Why Would Anyone Want to Attack a TSA Agent?

Before the shooting, Ciancia made “the conscious decision to try to kill” TSA employees in order to "instill fear in their traitorous minds," according to a letter found in his possession. But where would anyone get the idea that TSA employees are worthless, rights-violating, traitorous federal agents that should be stopped?

From Ron Paul, maybe? The former Texas representative and sometime presidential candidate thinks TSA agents are "jack-booted thugs" whose "authority is thoroughly dangerous, un-American, and insulting to earlier freedom-loving generations who built this country."

Personally I agree with Ron Paul 100% on this issue. The article links cover the additional shrill apologetic's denouncing the personalization of criticism of the TSA. I don't know about you but when TSA gropes me or my family I do take it personal. In fact that's about as personal as it gets.




posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 12:59 PM
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These things are the reason why I stopped worshipping the Left.

That doesn't mean the Right is better, though...

It's a war between two parties, with disinformation sandwiched between "truths". In any war between two parties, the winner is the one who doesn't participate in the war.

S&F for the find, mate!



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posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 01:10 PM
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only anyone who ever flew on a commercial airline, would ever think of attacking a TSA agent...



posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 01:22 PM
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I don't remember anyone on that list advocating for attacks on TSA agents.

That being said, I don't doubt that anyone who flies may have thought it could be considered self defense.


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posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 01:23 PM
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This is the typical left playground tactics. Only a person without a fraction of a particle of a clue would buy any of their standard BS....about half of the Amerikka population. Understanding that the most dangerous cities in this country have been controlled by the left for a long time, but their gun control measures should be everywhere as they fail miserably. As I do not agree with all that these people say, I agree with NOTHING that is spewed from the libs and their crap processing mega spin machine. We know their playground rules are their just to benefit them, eventually maybe even the idiots see it for what it is........maybe not.......but we know who the real terrorist are.....
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posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 01:31 PM
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And all of those people (Excluding Jones) have stated that the people need to become violent???

The people that create article like that are clowns, along with those that buy into it.



posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 01:37 PM
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It's actually a shrewd debate tactic.

Label everyone who has disagreed with the TSA a 'terrorist".

Then, when another person disagrees with further TSA rules, you can reference them back to being a "terrorist" because they disagree with the TSA and it has already been predicated, that disagreeing equals terrorist.



posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 01:38 PM
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The articles attempt to say that the problem is that those listed personalized their statements against TSA employees rather than TSA "policies" thus making it easier to "kill" those employees.

Thus the anger gets personalized, as if the TSA agents are deliberately out to get them for personal reasons. Demonizing and personalizing, in turn, makes it easier for a terrorist like Ciancia to justify murdering them. If you imagine they are evil people out to get you instead of ordinary workers who are just doing a job, shooting them becomes easier.

I wouldn't want to be the one having to make a list of people suffering personal abuses from the TSA. That list would be way too long. That said the crying appears to be about people who want their freedom back speaking about just such abuses.



posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 02:03 PM
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They are comparing a mentally ill individual with damn near half this nation for ideology and general world view.

I'm rather offended at that. If what they suggested of conservatives had ANY truth to it, they wouldn't be saying it publicly and openly. After all, the Right they claim to fear, chooses to be among the most well armed population on Earth. The Left, these loud people claim to represent, often (although not always) chooses to avoid guns all together.

If the Right were populated by nut cases, as this man at LAX clearly was, then how long would the unarmed half remain comfortable and happy? Not long ..Not long at all, I imagine...and with under 1 million total number to law enforcement of every type, from crossing guard to the most elite federal agent.

I think the reality we see in the nation around us puts the lie to what they claim, on a daily basis.



posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 02:10 PM
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Right Wing Terrorism & Unhinged Rhetoric On The Right


Personally, I detest politics when it is allowed to step beyond basic decent behavior. Yes, I have my own points and positions but I would never seek to inflict them on anyone else nor would I use them to bash someone who disagreed.

When I was a kid, my dad said that we should hold tight to an old American concept and stick to it regardless:

I may not agree with what you say but I will fight to the death for your right to say it.


How things have changed... we are today, truly, the house divided unto itself and as such, more than susceptible to losing so much of what was once secure.






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posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 02:12 PM
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Yeah the right wing propaganda machine never
riles up their listeners.
It's not like they scream about things that haven't come to pass
Martial law, gun confiscation, killing grandma, sharia law
Obama's a secret Muslim, socialism is on its way, communism
is on its way, fascism is on its way, black panther indoctrination
schools for your kids blah blah blah...
Certainly those completely made up scenarios could never creep
into the mind of an AR15 carrying nut job.



posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 02:17 PM
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sealing
Yeah the right wing propaganda machine never
riles up their listeners.
It's not like they scream about things that haven't come to pass
Martial law, gun confiscation, killing grandma, sharia law
Obama's a secret Muslim, socialism is on its way, communism
is on its way, fascism is on its way, black panther indoctrination
schools for your kids blah blah blah...
Certainly those completely made up scenarios could never creep
into the mind of an AR15 carrying nut job.


Just curious... do you see everyone who you call 'right wing' as dangerous, gun-toting political lunatics?

Or, are they your fellow Americans with a different view on politics?

Like I said... just curious.



posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 02:27 PM
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I've met some scary conservatives that live out in the middle of nowhere. If you were to accidentally come onto their property, they'd more than likely shoot first and ask questions later.

They really do believe that Obama is a Kenyan-born, communist, Muslim that visits gay bath houses and wants their guns. Some of them don't even believe the government has any legitimacy at all.

Where do these people get these ideas? People like Rush and websites like Brietbart and infowars. These conservative mouthpieces and news outlets have been screaming about the NWO and gun confiscation since at least the 80's.

I'm more afraid of a crazy right-winger than a nut-job lefty. The conservative will shoot me, the liberal will talk me to death.
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posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 02:34 PM
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The left-wing propaganda machine looks to be moving into full swing mode over the LAX - TSA shooting a few days ago. Instead of blaming Paul Ciancia, the alledged shooter they are spinning this to put the blame on those they consider the real right-wing terrorists. That includes:


So you creating new propaganda for the right's mutual appreciation society about how the left's propaganda should be dismissed as mere propaganda isn't in fact, just more propaganda?

Out of curiosity, do you dispute the authenticity of the following:




I bring this up because I’m wondering why we can’t have a Reppertian Jihad. --Jonah Goldberg




You know when Barack Obama said he was creating his own private army? 'We need a private army just as well funded, just as well equipped.' There's a lot of people saying he was talking about some, I don't know, some diplomatic corps. Uh huh. Was he now? Some people say that it was AmeriCorps and whatever. It could be. I don't know what it is. I don't know what the hell this guy is doing. Nobody does. That's the point. But if you wanted to really have a security force, wouldn't a unionized TSA under the umbrella of Homeland Security be the best thing? I mean, why start a whole new security force when you already have one? --Glenn Beck





In The Hunger Games, many times called a model of predictive programming, the ritual sacrifice of 23 children is carried out. Twelve districts, two children from each district; they fight in pairs and kill each other until one winner is left. 23 children are killed.
In Newton, Adam Lanza killed 20 children.
The author of The Hunger Games, Suzanne Collins, is listed by Wikipedia as one of the famous people who lives in Newtown. --John Rappoport on Alex Jone's prisonplanet.com


(some of the reference material linked out from the gawker post)

.. or do you just have a problem with the idea that rhetoric can lead to action?



posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 02:35 PM
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Look at the site you're on ...


I live out in the sticks and have found none of these scary people you describe. In fact, they're more likely to be like my folks and know pretty much only what the MSM reports and be highly suspicious of it.



posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 02:38 PM
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Fortunately they used a Psyops meme that labels the true nature of the game. (CIAnCIA) Ciancia
No accident or coincidence here

Unfortunately many of you don't believe they(the various factions of this Order or Powers that Be) do this sort of thing on purpose to play with the masses subconscious. Very much like the name Osama rhymes with Obama and his middle name is the last name of the former Iraqi president Hussein.

Just like all those photo ops of congressman and senators the last 12 years with the Halos in the capitol rotunda


This stuff is very real and its always planned.



posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 02:38 PM
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I could say I have met some crazy left-wingers who would have turned a parent into the police if they had known that Daddy cleaned his hunting rifle in the same house, lol.

The point is that... as a gun owner who has no desire to shoot anyone, I wonder whether someday, the maniacs from both sides lead to a nation where Kitchen Aid mixers become subject to debate.

Oh, as a side note... no, I would not shoot anyone just trespassing on my property. I have two dogs that will hold them for questioning and if need be, see that they are detained until they can be cleared.




posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 03:01 PM
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ketsuko
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Look at the site you're on ...


I live out in the sticks and have found none of these scary people you describe. In fact, they're more likely to be like my folks and know pretty much only what the MSM reports and be highly suspicious of it.


Funny, I grew up in the sticks too and I did. One particularly sad aspect of this subject for me is that my own parents are Republican and while my dad is moderate and particularly centrist on social issues, since 2008 I've watched my mom develop more and more anxiety over imaginary issues from overexposure to conservative talk radio and Fox News. She's in her 70s, has several guns of her own and depending on the hour of night, if a stranger came knocking, she just might answer with a gun in hand.

She also believes that the President is a Kenyan Muslim Marxist, maybe bi-sexual, definitely a plant by the Muslim Brotherhood who was sent to facilitate the infiltration of our government by MB operatives for the purpose of taking away the guns, imposing Shariah law, somehow still giving kickbacks to Chicago thugs with his "crony capitalism," and that he will take all of the children and put them in some sort of boarding school (I think?) and send the adults to FEMA camps. Oh, and he's a black power radical, Saul Alinsky style ACORN organizer who hates America (because he's a Kenyan Muslim Marxist, maybe bi-sexual, definitely a plant by the Muslim Brother... well you get the point).

My mother doesn't own a smartphone, doesn't browse the web or post on forums and doesn't get out that much and yet she manages to repeat all the same garbage I see time and time again on forum posts from the far right. What she does do is watch Fox News throughout the day, every day, and listen to Glenn Beck, Neil Boortz, and a few others. She's a strict consumer of conservative MSM and she's a victim of their ratings creating fear mongering infotainment garbage.
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posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 03:11 PM
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Weak minds are vulnerable to the constant fear mongering. It literally causes life altering psychosis. I have personal experience with people breaking down. It's happening. So who is to blame the predator or the prey?

They are not a particularly strong demographic in terms of discretionary income but there are some successful niche's. Particularly the gun industry, gold collectables stand up tubs, etc. Enough to enrich the provocateurs. They are destroying people and getting rich doing it.

This is 'murica.
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posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 03:33 PM
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theantediluvian

She also believes that the President is a:


    Kenyan Muslim Marxist - I don't think he's Kenyan need to see real birth certificate
    Maybe bi-sexual - Maybe but who cares?
    Still giving kickbacks to Chicago thugs with his "crony capitalism," - Good old Rahm. Good old CGI.
    Take all of the children - Common Core?
    Send the adults to FEMA camps. - Still looking for mine.
    He's a black power radical - He's a self centered narcissistic radical.
    Saul Alinsky style ACORN organizer - Is that a question?
    Who hates America - That's pretty obvious isn't it?




She's a strict consumer of conservative MSM and she's a victim of their ratings creating fear mongering infotainment garbage.

That's her mistake.

From your other post:



.. or do you just have a problem with the idea that rhetoric can lead to action?


I have a problem when someones personal actions get blamed on a bunch of people who weren't there. Such as in the stories in the articles linked in Raw Story and Gawker.
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