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The RCC and other churches must answer the basic question of existence of other worldly beings - entire civilizations more advanced than us, some of them. It is a question should we the christians baptize them or not. Padre Pio had some words on it. Whatever it is the theological implication it should and will be addressed as soon as the first contact happens. Perhaps teams of theologians already put final touches of what will be a new galactic theology. It is a pity it is done in secret and not as a public discussion. The only event on the surface was 2008 conference of astrobiology in Castel gandolfo where secular scientists participated. The news was carried out on MSM you can check youtube. I think it was 2008 or 2009.
One more thing - the mandate of Jesus to go to the entire universe does not concern only the current hierarchies of main churches. it concerns everyone of us. In other words, tomorrow's contact may offer us the possibilities to go out in the vast space as missionaries of Jesus Christ.
Well it didn't happen as of today. So we may just contemplate "what if". All of the above are possibilities not certainties. Still they must be addressed and the best way is the public discussion. Not necessarily in forums. If the leaders want it, they could have started new platforms, conferences, internet sites of such discussion, as Michio Kaku just showed them how to do it.
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I think the matter should not be left to the fanatic groupings within the Roman catholic and other churches. It is just too important. I believe it won't be that way. But still, the public involvement of people of good will will only enrich, not hurt, the main churches. In fact they need it. Because as I said, the mandate of Jesus does not stop to the church structures that evolved in later centuries. It concerns everyone of us.
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neither will the religion. As I said the ms science is as conservative as ms religion. God is not catholic, quote pope Francis, cardinal Martini.
The question is the day after.
If you will, the day after those "secrets" in apparitions will be finally disclosed. Because it is admitted not everythign is said in public, not even told to pope.
For me, scientists like Henry Deacon did much more benefit than those ms scientists, although I do not agree or do not have the way to prove all they say. What we have on mainstream is both outdated science and outdated religious philosophy. It was good centuries ago, not now. You can't have the wormhole theory and to be blind and deaf about the possibility someone to cross the wormhole. And to deny everything that flies and is not a plane. Or to demonzie it as the fanatics from all denominations do.
Religion has its place, so is the science.Updated ones, both of them.
Aliens from other planets are demonic, there is no good fruit.
The search for forms of extraterrestrial life, he says, does not contradict belief in God.
Just as there are multiple forms of life on earth, so there could exist intelligent beings in outer space created by God. And some aliens could even be free from original sin, he speculates.
Asked about the Catholic Church's condemnation four centuries ago of the Italian astronomer and physicist, Galileo, Father Funes diplomatically says mistakes were made, but it is time to turn the page and look towards the future.
Science and religion need each other, and many astronomers believe in God, he assures readers.
There is considerable disagreement on the values of these parameters, but the 'educated guesses' used by Drake and his colleagues in 1961 were:
R* = 1/year (1 stars formed per year, on the average over the life of the galaxy; this was regarded as conservative)
fp = 0.2-0.5 (one fifth to one half of all stars formed will have planets)
ne = 1-5 (stars with planets will have between 1 and 5 planets capable of developing life)
fℓ = 1 (100% of these planets will develop life)
fi = 1 (100% of which will develop intelligent life)
fc = 0.1-0.2 (10-20% of which will be able to communicate)
L = 1000-100,000,000 years (which will last somewhere between 1000 and 100,000,000 years)
Drake states that given the uncertainties, the original meeting concluded that N ≈ L, and there were probably between 1000 and 100,000,000 civilizations in the Milky Way galaxy
Go make a good Confession,
I named concrete people, not people without degrees, who have worked in Livermore lab, in Los Alamos, in the recently admitted to exist Area 51. They are all available online. Those people stand besides the mainstream physicists ONE OF WHICH is Dr Michio Kaku. Another one is the Caltech professor Kip Thorne who can tell you a lot of Einstein-Rosen bridge developed today as wormhole theory. He doesn't speak religion, rather plays bets with Hawking that he always wins "for technical reasons" as Hawking said. I recommend his book: Black Holes and Time Warps: Einstein's Outrageous Legacy. This is the minimum knowledge for everyone who wants to understand how the created universe works, and why it is not impossible to go from there to here. Hawking is yet another mainstream physicist who in his latest "Into the Universe" series on Discovery admitted that super developed ET civ may use a giant wormhole. (he struggled to accept that for quite a time).
About the clerical issues, well what is present here in this thread by Colbe and others is the pre-Vatican 2 view that I don't have to address in detail. Vatican 2 already speaks of other terms of relations between churches, and between christians and non christians. Let alone who is who in the Heaven of God!
The discussion has much to do with Medjugorje, because there are reported also "angels" to appear. What else if not extraterrestrials. How about secrets to tell such event as public contact? I think that was the hidden part of Fatima and of many other apparitions too.
If I have to warp up at this point, Id say the minimum the Roman Catholic Church can do is to promote the wordings already said by the late Vatican astronomer the jesuit mgr Balducci, about the angels beings ET of higher level than us, that fit to the secular term of extraterrestrials. This can be done easily if there is a good will. Secular researchers like Dr Michael Salla speak in those terms when discussing ET-religion issues. I advise you to visit his exopolitics website too. In all, I quoted too much to be reviewed in a single day. Have a good time.edit on 4-12-2013 by 2012newstart because: (no reason given)
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God and the Angele are not ET's...
"God made man in His own Image"
I am quite angry at the fact we have been lied for centuries, and practically all my life passed in the lies of some "secrets"