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A masked Russell Brand leads Anonymous march against austerity cuts: Funnyman-turned-activist joins

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posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 11:36 AM
Now here's a proper comedian, sacked by the BBC, maybe because he did not agree with their views on certain things.....
Now I'd listen to him, but maybe not the black pudding sketch:

He also had a bit to say on JS:

posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 11:39 AM
Here is the part that doesn't make sense to me. Austerity is a necessity for an economy to work. The only questions should be when it is implemented, and how.

It seems to reason that austerity cuts should happen during boom years. However, when government spending rises during busts, it should be to put people back to work at government jobs and projects.

Even Keynes believed people should have a job. Not sitting around collecting welfare. I believe that is the heartburn with a lot of people.

posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 11:42 AM
Masked march on the 5th of November I can understand, but Russell brand funny man now thats disturbing.

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posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 11:49 AM

Now here's a proper comedian, sacked by the BBC, maybe because he did not agree with their views on certain things.....
Now I'd listen to him, but maybe not the black pudding sketch:

He also had a bit to say on JS:

My wife grew up in Sarawak (Borneo) and lived with the forest Dayak in their longhouses. She has photos of the men, strong, wiry, exquisitely tattooed and with a fierce look of determination and pride. Now their forest home is gone, replaced by a Palm oil plantation. The people who survived now live in public housing or are squatting on the fringes of the city.
Gone are the bags of Japanese skulls taken by their warriors using only bows, blowguns and machetes against their rifles and machine guns. Gone are the children who once ran freely through the forest while their parents gardened or hunted deer and monkey for food.
A small remnant of Dayak still live their traditional ways. HSBC is paving the way for their destruction and as well as the habitat of the endangered Orangutans.

Great video.

posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 12:58 PM

reply to post by Asktheanimals

Brand's movie company is distributed through Warner bros.

I'm not trying to bash Brand here. I think he's extremely funny at times and occasionally insightful. Probably a likeable chap in person if you don't take offense easily.

That said, I think people should ask themselves a few questions:
While his lifestyle and occupation demand he participate in the very "evils" of consumption he decries. How often does he jump on a plane? Why buy a multi-million $ mansion complete with housekeeper and gardener?

For someone who is constantly appearing on MSM how much can he really be "against" the same system that has given him everything in life most people never attain?

I think in a true free-market society, be it capitalist or socialist, there is nothing wrong with someone with a bit of talent doing well & succeeding.

He has talent, he makes a lot of people laugh. That should be rewarded, maybe not as much as he & others get now but all the same a reward is due.

How many of us can not only fail at a job but tell the boss to go eff themselves and end up getting hired again? This is essentially what happens every time he does his act like at the GQ awards. Was anyone really offended or does this just create buzz and ratings and for the same things he slagging off?

It's just a bit of sensationalism, added publicity for the media train.

I hear many people compliment his intelligence. Fair enough, it takes that to be a comedian in many ways. Yet his accent is atrocious and nearly unintelligible especially when he's speaking fast.

A moot point.
It's a Landaan thing

Compare what he says in interviews against what he has supposedly written for New Statesmen - it's not the same person. His written pieces are so full of historical extrapolations and sesquipedalian overtures one would think a PhD had written them. For a man who is supposedly of humble origins with no education beyond acting school his vocabulary would be quite remarkable. Did he pick up all these words while spending time as a heroin addict or drinking? Perhaps from spending time in bed with all the women he's philandered?

Sorry, self educating oneself shouldn't be viewed negatively.
Especially if one is from "low born" origins.
In any light it should be lauded & applauded.

A lot of his comedy is spontaneous and reactionary, it seems when he sits down, has a bit of time and concentrates he is capable of being eloquent.

I'm quite surprised a moderator has said this. Aren't we all educating ourselves on here..?

Many things don't add up in the bigger picture about Brand. We might agree with many of his sentiments and ideas but my concern is that he is being construed as a leader, either by those who admire him or by those who would hold him in a negative light to discredit genuine change.

He admits to not wanting to being a leader & goes so far to say that there are other more capable people to do this job. It seems the public are hungry for someone to step up and lead.

If he truly is "one of us" all I'm asking is treat him as one of us and hold him in the same regard. If he really is a leader he will have to get in the front and put his butt on the line. Whether Brand's sentiments are genuine or not my fear is that he will be used to discredit any movement to change the status quo.

Real leaders are out there who are far more deserving.
Too bad they're not getting the same time and attention would be my lament.

I agree totally.

Is it wrong that he is putting the issue forward in the public domain?
Using his brand (so-to-speak) to do this?

Is it wrong that he admits to being a bit of an idiot earlier in life?

Who else here have done questionable things in their youth?
I bloody well have!

I've learned from it & I feel it has made me a better human being.
It's made me question things & is one of the reasons I'm on here.

In my eyes that is a positive thing.

A welcome thing.

I want to add that I don't really enjoy all of his humour and find him fairly irritating at times but I will sit and listen to him.

The Dalai Lama asked for him specifically to open his talks raised an eyebrow for me. From then on I kept an eye on him & was/am pleasantly surprised at how its all panning out.

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posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 01:21 PM
reply to post by daaskapital

I have seen Russell Brand's interviews, and I have seen some of his episodes. The man is certainly intelligent, and very charismatic, but the only real problem I have with him is that he is an actor. Of course he can deliver great speeches, and come across as someone who truly believes in what he is saying; that's how he makes his living.

One has to remember that he could just be putting on a show. Intelligent people often like to push boundaries, and to stir up controversy.

Another one of my thoughts is this. Just think for a moment how someone with the money and motive were to devise a plan to start a revolution, but remain in the shadows.

The plan would go something like this:

1. Find someone who:
A. Is well known:

This someone has to be recognizable. Mr. Brand is recognizable.

B. Well spoken:
Brand can deliver speeches better than most politicians can. Definitely better than the president who can't even manage a sentence without the word "um" escaping his mouth or reading from the teleprompter. Brand is very articulate, and has no problem connecting the emotions necessary to drive the message.

C. Who doesn't have a clean record, and can own up to his mistakes:
He has had troubles concerning drug use and his relationships, but he has owned them. People can relate to him, and because he doesn't lie about his past or try to cover past mistakes up unlike politicians he seems honest.

D. Can actually back up what he says:
He doesn't just sit back and engage in armchair debates, he is an active participant in demonstrations.

2. Now think of the possibility that he doesn't even believe in the things he says or does. Could it be possible that he is merely propagating the message that he was given? That if he becomes the facade of this unseen person or group that he could become larger than just famous for acting but vaulted to fame in history to be permanently enshrined as a figure who helped bring forth a revolution and change the world?

Could it be that he is just putting on an act?
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posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 01:40 PM

This guy is a useful idiot.

He calling for a socialist revolution.
And we all know socialist revolutions work out great for humanity.

Remember the nazis?
"National socialist German workers party"

It's all governments fault everyone is poor, (which it is) yet he wants more government.
I wonder if this jackwagon realizes he is demanding government take his millions.

I bet he is the first on a plane out of country when the violence starts.

National socialism and socialism is not the same....And,historically seen,socialist revolutions made life better for so many people.I guess you love the idea of slavemasters,right?Russel might lack solution but he's spot on.Nothing wrong with trying to get debate started.Sad thing is that most opponents only use assumptions/ad homs
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posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 01:40 PM

I would keep my eye on that guy, make sure he hasn't been attending any of those bilderburg meetings

I believe he's attended David Icke gigs / performances / lectures...or whatever you call them.

posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 01:53 PM

Who wants to bet if he gets to popular they will find him hanging in a hotel room or overdosed on herroin due to a drug "relapse".

IE killed by the goverment.

Who wants to bet he was manufactured by the people who want socialism? He's their mouthpiece to get the masses to go for the next evolution in society. Socialism! Make things real bad and then promote the solution with Hollywood celebrities! Doesn't matter they did all the thinking for you. That's right they told you what to think!

posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 02:15 PM
reply to post by Robert Reynolds

Hmmmm, that's an odd association. Any indication he buys into the whole reptilian theory?

posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 03:00 PM
reply to post by TKDRL
No, but I'd be interested to find out.

Everybody knows what David Icke believes purely because of the fact that he was a TV personality. Had he not been, his 'outrageous' theories would have been un-broadcast. But they were broadcast, at the discretion of the BBC and other media outlets just as Russell Brand is being broadcast now.

If it was revealed to the world - whether real or a deception - that these 'lizards' are amongst us, I think it quite likely that David Icke would become the most listened to man in the world: he's so calm and easy to understand and has all the answers.

I can't help thinking that Russell Brand is possibly part of a plan.


posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 03:45 PM
reply to post by LOSTinAMERICA

Whats wrong with Socialism?.. ie the proper version, not the aborted, corrupted versions we've seen implemented in the last century.

Still cant figure out why the Socialism bogy man is always bandied around by so many people still (actually I do but its something i always tend to ask when things like this are brought up in life). You talk of 'they are telling you how they want you to think' yet your essentially standing there saying if you dont think like me your just a gullible slave lining up to be part of a machine, who are you the one to say what they are doing?.. for you the fact its possibly Socialist means there must be some nefarious agenda behind it all.

I dont like the guy myself, but he does the odd good thing... and any sort of celebrity pull a good cause can get (as long as said pull doesn't corrupt the underlying movement) is a good thing. Good or bad people listen to celebrities these days... I say use em (the celebrities that is), even better if the celebs actually believe in what they are championing.

posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 04:25 PM
reply to post by litmus1212

Ftr I would never put down autodidacts.
I didn't finish college myself but learning should be a lifelong endeavor for all of us.
It's a shame school seems to ruin the fun in it for so many.
Anyone who didn't raise some hell in their youth has no balls imo.

posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 05:28 PM
reply to post by Asktheanimals

The lack of schooling in school was impetus enough for me to go out and learn!

Sorry if I can across a little argumentative ATA, I was fairly grumpy at the time.

I just got back from the gym & was in dire need of sustenance.

posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 05:49 PM
reply to post by KBadger

Please do tell how then that the standard of living in Germany and Scandinavia are higher than ours, as are pretty much all metrics for a healthy society: access to healthcare, per capita poverty, literacy, infant mortality rates, bankruptcy rates, average wage and polls of population happiness.

I keep seeing everyone blankly assert that socialism is worse than our current system (which is already a socialist-capitalist hybrid anyways), while giving absolutely zero evidence to support their claims, except to point to authoritarian regimes of the 1950's which have nothing in common with what Brand, or any modern socialist would be calling for.

posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 05:56 PM
reply to post by LOSTinAMERICA

The elites don't want a socialism that Brand is calling for. They want a brand like Stalinism or Fascism. The corporate and banking elites would retain ruling power and the rest of us would fight for our slave like working conditions because we don't have a choice.

Brand is calling for their power to be taken away, for the power to be returned to society as a whole. For wages to be increased and the wealth gap to be greatly decreased. If he was being controlled it makes no sense for him to attack the very ones who are currently in control and attempting to tighten their grip.

We're on the same side, your paranoia is getting the best of you.

posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 07:29 PM
reply to post by Asktheanimals

Hes rich so what?

Why does changing the system have to be a choice between the crap we have now or totalitarian communism.

I would just be happy to see the elite be forced to follow the same laws as everyone else with strict draconian penaltys for corruption and fraud.

No high taxes or forced wealth distrabution.

posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 07:57 PM

reply to post by Asktheanimals

Hes rich so what?

Why does changing the system have to be a choice between the crap we have now or totalitarian communism.

I would just be happy to see the elite be forced to follow the same laws as everyone else with strict draconian penaltys for corruption and fraud.

No high taxes or forced wealth distrabution.

I never said anything about his specific politics. I'm not sure he even knows what he wants, his message seems to be what he have doesn't work, abandon it. I agree it's not working yet the system behind it has worked before when run by ethical public servants instead of self-aggrandizing and greedy corporate puppets.
The US system in particular I believe to be worth saving based on the idea of a Constitutional Republic which is a far cry from the English parliamentary system and monarchy.
If we don't participate we can't begin to place blame for the misdeeds of those who need replacement.

Anyone who has billions of $ these days has certainly benefitted from the cronyism and laws passed or repealed to the benefit of corporations and banks. If the burden of financing future government operations belongs to anyone it's them. The "Cyprus Haircut" would be a fitting beginning for the ultra-rich to recover their sense of public responsibility.
Our old tax codes were very progressive and though construed as "penalizing success" it truly represents in ratio the benefits derived from our economic system which is only possible due to our road systems, ports, inspectors, etc. They should pay the most as they gain the most from it's usage.

The working poor shouldn't be paying much if any taxes until they reach a point where saving is possible. That is the true mark of anyone having "more than needed to live".

posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 10:12 PM
Only one thing to say on this one...


EDIT; Okay, two things to say.

I haven't been playing my part in any of my protests lately. I've been kinda thinking, what difference does it make if I go? Why bother?

But hell far...

If Russel Brand can take to the streets, then so can I.

He inspires me.

Okay.... THREE things to say.

Russel Brand has made fools of newscasts and interviewers, and he's been on the alternative radio shows lately... all you folks paranoid enough to think he's "part of the plan" are the folks that give the rest of us conspirators a bad name.

I believe that the elite will try to plan around Russel Brand, just as they do everything that pops in front of them that they themselves didn't manifest, but Russel Brand being a divine conspiracy...? Come on. It would be understandable if we were accusing Eminem here, but Russel Brand?

Listen to the man speak.

No one told him to say any of that...

That's pure, un-adult-rated thought spewing out of him.

I love 'im for it.

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posted on Nov, 8 2013 @ 12:31 AM
Personally, I didn't really care much for Mr. Brand. I didn't really like his comical style, just wasn't my taste. I thought he tried a little to hard, and was a bit overly eccentric.

But I will say I have gained some respect for him. I saw an interview of him talking about politics and what not, and he seemed to know what he was talking about. And you wouldn't really expect that from a guy like him. At least I didn't. And people in interviews were actually judging him by his clothing, and other trivial things. And he ended calling them out on it, and ended up throwing their ignorance back at them. And I admire a guy like that.

We surely need more people like him. Sure, he may be a bit goofy, and unorthodox, but it's what he has to say is what counts. No matter if he does it in a joking way, or a serious way. Some people have their own way of explaining things. After all, never forget the saying:

"Don't judge a book by it's cover."

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