Ya know, it doesn't hurt to try it. Most of his stuff you could easily make on your own and see the results.
One thing I have noticed in fringe fields, and this goes for alternative medicine as well as other alternative areas (so to speak) is a confounding
set of mental assumptions on the part of both believers and scoffers alike when it comes to causation.
So for example, let us say that eating food X makes people with condition Y feel better, very often -- often enough that it's been a folk remedy in
india or south america for about 2000 years. Now maybe people 'theorize' that the reason it works is because of XYZ. Someone tests XYZ and says, that
isn't it obviously, so this is jack, these people are quacks, and dismisses the whole thing.
Well, just because XYZ may not have been the cause and/or correlate, does not mean that the underlying, foundational claim is bunk; there may be some
completely unknown reason why there appear to be effects for some people. I am referring to reasons beyond "Because they're all hallucinating morons"
And likely that reason, if the effects exist, are completely reasonable, and will someday make us go, "Ohhhhh, OF COURSE it makes a lot of people feel
better, because it turns out that tree bark powder has a bunch of QRS in it, which specifically helps with condition Y." But what the locals thought
was that "it was often helpful." WHY it was helpful is really someone else's problem to figure out -- mostly, the people who care about the "why"
part, such as scientists.
I don't really care how electricity works. I just want to know that if I flip the switch I get light. I'm happy with that... it's enough for me,
because I have other things to do than build circuits, as noble a profession as I'm sure it is. People often feel the same way about health stuff;
they are not interested in waiting the 57 years it is likely to take science to get somewhere IF it gets funding (from an industry that makes profit
off illness...) AND finds a patent-able element for a drug AND then finally gets human trials and approved -- they'd be dead by then. So, if a lot of
people say that element-X helps with condition-Y, maybe they're willing to try it, because mostly X is unlikely to kill them and they're not looking
for an excuse to argue about insufficient scientifically-derived data, they're looking for a way to feel better, and those two things are likely
When it comes to techs like orgone, you have to look at the concept of orgone; various forms of "chi, qi, etc." are pretty much rooted in various
cultures around the planet and throughout time. Most stuff doesn't have this widespread longevity and robust a focus like that without some kind of
reason. If one is to err on the side of making large assumptions, it should probably be in favor of planet-wide history-long cultural-experience
context, as opposed to in favor of, "I've never seriously tried it, so really have no idea, but am willing to call it fraud anyway."
That doesn't mean the orgone tech finds or controls that reason, even if 'chi' ('orgone') has validity, of course. But if one rules out ever testing
something; or if one does a test not based on a variety of approaches to some kind of results, but based solely on one person's opinion of 'why' it
has results, only to find that 'why' is not correct and so dismisses it (with the same result of not testing it at all, since one is not truly testing
the tech in that case but rather, only someone's opinion about how/why the tech works, which is not the same thing) -- what's the point in that.
Feels good in the armchair: We are so much smarter than those doofus people actually doing their own experiments out of gauche emotions like
'curiosity.' WE know that everything is fake until our commercialized science proves otherwise!
Good for the armchair. Not really good for "real" science, or for the genuine human curiosity that drives real science, as opposed to the
technologists-doing-corporate-marketing-setups like what it mostly is today.
I have no idea if Orgone 'generators' work. Might not. Might. Having never properly and carefully built one for experimenting, I have no reason to
have an opinion either way. I just think it's unfortunate that it's so easy for people to have opinions without having some basis for them. Try it
out! What's anyone got to loose? Some steel wool and cardboard or something?
edit on 8-11-2013 by RedCairo because: (no reason given)