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Is America Starting to Cannabalize?

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posted on Nov, 5 2013 @ 11:16 PM
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I have a trade suggestion for you I was discussing with a friend today.
Apparently, the tool and die/tool making trades are in desperate need and paying quite well. You ought to be able to get a start with a few classes and progress into full training. I would imagine with the need, jobs would be available with just a little skill. The felony would be worked around if you're good at the job I'm sure.

www.bls.gov...

usatoday30.usatoday.com...

I'd certainly give it a thought if I were in my 20s still.
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posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 12:02 AM
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Even if I could afford to buy a house, I wouldn't. Even if I am capable of obtaining a driver's licence, I wouldn't want one. I take no assistance from the government, the government gets assistance from me. I am a single mother and I will not allow my two year old son to be vaccinated. I know that Americans who claim to own their own home don't really own their own home, anything we have can be taken from us at the drop of a hat for any stupid reason the government can think up. In my opinion, there are no Jones' to keep up with, my quality of life is not defined by the fickle perceptions of those who haven't bothered to get to know who I am, after all, people don't usually come to see me during work, they come for the five dollar per lb. fries, the 10 dollar per lb spicy chicken, and the twenty two dollar per lb breaded shrimp. I can't afford to eat there, but I love knowing what to do and how to do it and the people I serve. I know that there are plenty of others who get paid more for doing less, but damnit, I'm not poor.



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 12:12 AM
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onequestion
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Yeah i have i just relocate 2 weeks ago and i shouldnt have.

Also im wondering if anyone else is noticing this as a trend?

Does it seem like people in their twenties right now are having a really hard time getting into gainful employment?


I told you this before: where i am at, the guys in their 20's are driving jacked up Ford Raptor trucks, towing their boats. You wanna make money (with a felony background)....West Texas.



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 12:28 AM
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I would look at relocating to a state that does not allow companies to discriminate against someone with a felony after 5 years. You will be turned away from 99% of employment opportunities based on that alone. The law needs to be addressed because companies base that discrimination off a federal law that allows them to not hire felons for "sensitive" positions. Someone needs to be sued because ever single job is not a sensitive position.

They wont let you deliver pizza, scrub toilets at Walmart, or flip hamburgers at Mcdonalds. Those are 'sensitive' positions. A temp agency might get you some low paying labor job if you're lucky. I have known people in your position. Good news though I just Google'd and it appears lawsuits are on the rise against these blanket discriminatory practices.

www.yourerc.com...

Good news for you I hope. I just found it somewhat retarded that you would do this to someone. What does society expect them to do, go back to selling crack? After you pay your debt to society, that debt should be paid.



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 12:29 AM
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Why your 20's? I started a job as an operator in July and have been setting up CNC machines for a month or so now. I am in my mid-40's, and was tired of being laid off over and over (telecom).

These kinds of jobs are always looking for bright, hard working people. Most won't stick with it. Few are willing to put in the hours or have the patience to learn something new, but if you can buck those trends, there is plenty of work, and money to be made.



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 03:41 AM
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Ha!

No, it's not starting.

It has been since the '70s, when it started decimating and outsourcing its manufacturing base.

We ourselves started following suit in the early '90s but were much quicker about it.
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posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 07:21 PM
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Good point. For 99% of human history a degree of collectivism was required. If we return to that, it would be the norm versus enough resources for everyone to do it all on their own.



posted on Nov, 6 2013 @ 07:30 PM
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Yeah this idea that we should not be functioning as a community is retarded.

If you took us back to a natural state of being it would be impossible for us to survive as a species as individuals.

Its common sense that we need to work together better and share with each other.



posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 04:10 PM
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ManOfHart
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"how am i suppose to get ahead, how is there suppose to be any forward progress?"

Temp to hire, and just temp work is plenty throuout the US. Look at craigslist. Temperary labor is very in demand.


I do a lot of this temp to hire stuff. I actually started it because of a suggestion here on these boards. I've been doing it for three months now and have yet to get a permanent job out of it. The companies take the lower paying temp job, say they'll hire if the person does well, then when their hours are up they just take another person and effectively cut their labor costs. I had one job last week it was supposed to be doing office work for 40 hours, I got sent home and no followup job offer after 10 hours. The reason? I had completed all 40 hours worth of work in those 10 hours, most of it involved computer tasks which I'm quite knowledgeable with and allowed me to complete all the work much faster (for example, extracting data from a computer program into a text file, this was supposed to take 20 hours, it took me 45 minutes... or input to a database, which I greatly sped up by creating my own custom form and having a superhuman typing speed of 135 wpm).

My reward for working hard, doing a good job, and applying my skills? Unemployment. Temp to hire is just a way of lowering wages for a job, but it's still better than my previous one, atleast I get minimum wage from the temp companies.


ketsuko
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The sad thing is how many of you have come out of college saddled both with obnoxious debt and with degrees that will open few doors, and yet we continue to promote college as a must to so many kids.

I think it's all an excuse to put you all in debt bondage to the government. Add up how much in debt service you pay to the feds each year on top of how much you lose in taxes, and it's criminal. They're taking well over 50% from the bottom instead of the top.


I have 4 degrees and am just a couple classes away from a 5th, and I did it without debt (lots of scholarships and some government assistance). I am one of the most negative people you will ever find on the subject of college. School as it's currently set up is a scam. Tuition is high in order to force student loans, which the government then provides at profit in a system that's built to create defaults. We have more student loan debt than credit card debt, and it's all concentrated on people in their 20's and early 30's. A massive collapse is coming, and it's not going to be pretty when it happens.



posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 04:29 PM
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onequestion
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Yeah this idea that we should not be functioning as a community is retarded.

If you took us back to a natural state of being it would be impossible for us to survive as a species as individuals.

Its common sense that we need to work together better and share with each other.


There is a difference between working together as a community and sharing voluntarily and working together as a community and sharing because some guys in black uniforms with big guns are basically coming in a forcing you to do so. The first is a good thing and what many extended families, church communities, and close knit neighborhoods already do for each other. The second is socialism, communism, oligarchy and what TPTB have in store for us. Needless to say, it's a very bad thing and they will make sure that no matter how much is shared, there will never be quiet enough for us to be comfortable or happy or trust one another. Any excess will be confiscated to become their's, and they will have an endless "enemies" list to blame for all of our hardship so we stay focused on everything but the true cause of the misery.

And hey look! It's working well so far.



posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 05:33 PM
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My best advice would be to leave the north and head south down here in texas there are jobs all over as long as you get out there and show that you can bust your ass and want to work they'll hire you and keep you regardless of most felony charges. I'm a project manager for a construction company and I hire and fire ppl all the time, and what iv gathered Is that most ppl who say they want a job have no sense of work ethic or pride in what they do and that is why they get canned quick. And a lot of these ppl complain how they can'tfind a job and its bs, and to those ppl I say yes you won't find a job that pays you to sit on your lazy ass with your feet kicked up eating cheetos and playing on your phone all day and no you are not "above" any job in this economy. If you need to cut grass to support yourself and or your family then cut grass till you find something else but no matter what have pride in what you do. Not necessarily saying you fall in to this lazy category just that a lot of these I can't find a job sob stories are pathetic excuses to hide from the reality rhat they need to grow up and get off the couch.



posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 05:50 PM
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Lazy bitches! You dont have a job? Move across the country and get a job in Texas!

/ sarcasm off



posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 07:18 PM
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onequestion
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Lazy bitches! You dont have a job? Move across the country and get a job in Texas!

/ sarcasm off


What if you're opposed to fracking? It devastates the environment, creates tons of sinkholes, and poisons the water. Doing that to your fellow countryman just to put some food on the table makes you a terrible human being. I know I wouldn't be able to look at myself in the mirror if I were a part of that.



posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 08:31 PM
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onequestion
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I would but i have a felony and i know i shot myself in the foot with that one, also i have bad credit for obvious reasons. Its hard for me to get on my feet let alone go to college. I just want to get on my feet.


Are you male or female and what part of country are you in.

The Bot



posted on Nov, 7 2013 @ 08:36 PM
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I'm a male and im in south florida.



posted on Nov, 8 2013 @ 03:04 PM
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onequestion
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Yeah i have i just relocate 2 weeks ago and i shouldnt have.

Also im wondering if anyone else is noticing this as a trend?

Does it seem like people in their twenties right now are having a really hard time getting into gainful employment?


Yes, I've seen it in the UK. Foreign graduates from China and India are will to *PAY* for internships in order to stay in the country. They get subsidized by their government and wealthy parents at home. And high-school graduates are competing against East Europeans for jobs like bartenders, waitresses and shop assistants.

But every age group is affected. My last university lab was filled by a good few people in their late 30's whose employers were "downsizing". They all jumped off the ship before they were pushed off. If you are out of work for more than three months, nobody wants you. But if you are in employment many other employers won't be willing to pay what you are currently earning, let alone relocation expenses. Private pensions have gone through the floor, so the only option is to work in the public sector.

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posted on Nov, 10 2013 @ 12:58 PM
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It is so interesting reading this thread on the US from an SA position.
De facto we may may have 40 percent unemployment, and it affects all population groups.
For my class it is not unusual for the white lower middle-class to now have three generations sharing a home, which was unheard of in my childhood.
Affirmative Action and Black Economic Empowerment means many whites were dismissed from state jobs, ranging from the army to the railways and the civil service.
The poor white problem has again become very visible, although statistically whites as a group are actually earning more than in the past.
One argument is that they can no longer rely on life-long state jobs (which are now given mainly to blacks), and this has pushed many to become entrepreneurs, and the earning potential here is bigger than a set salary.

I was surprised to hear the US has the same problems.

It's not really reflected in Hollywood movies, or what goes around the world.

For example, I saw a movie recently titled Ted.

Here an abrasive, dysfunctional Teddy Bear gets a job as a cashier, despite the fact that he has no education or previous work experience.

That work is presented as a "dead-end job" or just better than nothing (just like American movies refer to a career at McDonalds as just "flipping burgers").

I wonder if that ungrateful bear realizes how many millions of people across the globe would love to have his job?

OK, movies are fiction, but they create impressions.
I'm sure many prospective immigrants would feel they deserve to make it in America more than that bear or his owner, and they would be better employees than Ted.
Where else can one just walk into a job (that one clearly doesn't even really want)?

In many countries that wouldn't be considered funny, or even a believable plot device.
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