reply to post by CirqueDeTruth
To introduce this newer
technology would eliminate current energies and businesses. Like oil, furnaces would have to be altered, perhaps even the whole infrastructure. This
would displace a lot of jobs, devalue a lit of stock... so on and so forth. It disrupts the status quo.
Plenty of history to indicate that is not exactly the case. How many major companies have changed their operating standards? Changed their markets?
Plenty. In fact, GE started as an appliance manufacturer but is now considered a financial company (if memory serves.)
As far as infrastructure, yes indeed, retrofitting infrastructure is big business, which supplies lots of jobs. And unlimited energy would open up
about a thousand avenues of possibilities that didn't exist with cost limiting energy conditions. Have you ever wondered how much industrial energy
At that point they will reveal the new technologies that they too will have a monopoly on ... but I don't think it will happen a second
Some truth to that, but being the first in the market gives you an edge. The Japanese have been working on all the crap posted throughout this thread
since the 50s, the US for about the same time.
They actually had proper science initiatives to try and find this stuff, and in most instances came up dry. But it isn't independent of one nation,
you really think the US or Japan, or China, or any country suddenly found the answer to total power over every other nation and said, "Heck boys, we
just gonna sideline this one so we can have wars over oil and coal and… and make money, and pollute the hell out of where we live, forget that it's
gonna cost a fortune to clean up everything we do when cancer becomes a 9/10 occurrence."
It's sort of like what the tree guy did who supplied newspaper with pulp to make paper. Back in the early 1900's he set about a campaign with the
newspaper he supplied to bury production of hemp. They were his biggest competitor in making paper. He set about it by villifying the crop - touching
upon people's emotions by focusing on it's effect recreationally and advocated complete prohibition.
Completely different commodity. Completely different underlying factors.
How marijuana was prohibited
Twentieth-century cannabis prohibition first reared its head in countries where white minorities ruled black majorities: South Africa, where it's
known as dagga, banned it in 1911, and Jamaica, then a British colony, outlawed ganja in 1913. They were followed by Canada, Britain and New Zealand,
which added cannabis to their lists of illegal narcotics in the 1920s. Canada's pot law was enacted in 1923, several years before there were any
reports of people actually smoking it there. It was largely the brainchild of Emily F. Murphy, a feminist but racist judge who wrote anti-Asian,
anti-marijuana rants under the pseudonym "Janey Canuck."
As we get older and hear the conspiracies over and over, we begin to analyze them a little closer and closer. And in this case, given that bans came
out long before Dupont was releasing it's synthetic fibres line, and it coincides with other various drug prohibition, it seems more likely that it
was the first steps towards the war on drugs, more so than it had to do with the paper industry. Not to say that people who may have feared hemp had
their own reservations or didn't play a hand in its final prohibition.
Meanwhile, DuPont in 1937 had just patented nylon and "a new sulfate/sulfite process for making paper from wood pulp"
The bottom line, is to say that the only contributing factor to hemp being outlawed was Dupont, is ludicrous.
n the United States, marijuana prohibition began partly as a throw-in on laws restricting opiates and coc aine to prescription-only use, and
partly in Southern and Western states and cities where blacks and Mexican immigrants were smoking it. Missouri outlawed opium and hashish dens in
1889, but did not actually prohibit cannabis until 1935. Massachusetts began restricting cannabis in its 1911 pharmacy law, and three other New
England states followed in the next seven years.
In fact, the world had just seen the opium wars, witnessed an entire nation being overrun by drugs, aimed at its citizens to destabilize an entire
continent. And there was plant of money to be made off the drug trade, even more if it were illegal.
You can't have hemp without the female version of the plant. And the female version was persona non grata, so simply saying it was because of Dupont,
fearing for their industry, seems a little short sighted.
And if it were possible to entirely outlaw a commodity, or a process, or a product. You would also have to omit that hemp has been cultivated after
the supposed influence:
From the Hemp Industry Association.
2) Presidents Washington and Jefferson both grew hemp. Americans were legally bound to grow hemp during the Colonial Era and Early Republic.
The federal government subsidized hemp during the Second World War and U.S. farmers grew about a million acres of hemp as part of
The simple truth is that suppression doesn't work that well. There are plenty of places that have cultivated hemp since the US outlawed it:
SPAIN has never prohibited hemp, produces rope and textiles, and exports hemp pulp for paper. The Spanish word for hemp is
The best example would be China, since it's used hemp for eons,
But they use wood for their paper industry:
JIN JILING, China — In silent, temperature-controlled labs in a desolate part of Hainan, China's most tropical province, rows of women in
medical masks and lab coats clone trees that grow freakishly fast.
The trees have official names, such as APP-22 or DH32-29, but Wending Huang, Asia Pulp & Paper Co.'s chief forester in China, calls them his "Yao
Mings" after the towering Chinese basketball star. The tiny green tissue samples, methodically implanted in petri jars, will become hardwood
eucalyptus trees that need only four to six years to reach full height, up to 90 feet or more.
From a supportive group, the hemp association:
CHINA is the largest exporter of hemp textiles. The fabrics are of excellent quality. Medium density fiber board is also now available. The
Chinese word for hemp is "ma."
And from hemp wiki:
The world-leading producer of hemp is China
Now, hemp still could have been seen as a threat, so I can see how pressure from big business could influence policy in the US, but even where there
was no pressure it did not become the death knell for tree-paper.
Each year, Huang's labs clone 190 million ready-to-plant "cutlings," which APP grows on 790,000 acres of managed timberland spread over eight
Chinese provinces. The company cultivates fiber-rich hardwood as intensively as U.S. agribusinesses grow gene-optimized corn and wheat.
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